[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread kundai
I can also confirm the bug.

** Changed in: debootstrap (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
Or rather, not that I don't understand why this bug exists, but I doubt
now that it is a bug in debootstrap.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't understand why this bug exists.  If you compare a diff of the
two (you do gutsy as both intrepid and hardy buildd are symlinks to
gutsy) you don't see any difference:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff 
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45c45
< chown 0:0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"
---
> chown 0.0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't see this in apt either:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.9ubuntu17$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../hardy-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.14ubuntu5$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../intrepid-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff intrepid-be.grep hardy-
be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$

Any ideas?

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Jamie Strandboge
In an intrepid VM, I ran:

$ apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl -F Build-Essential -s Package yes
Package: binutils
Package: build-essential
Package: bzip2
Package: cpio
Package: dpkg-dev
Package: g++
Package: g++-4.3
Package: gcc
Package: gcc-4.3
Package: ifupdown
Package: libc6-dev
Package: libgdbm3
Package: libgomp1
Package: libstdc++6-4.3-dev
Package: libtimedate-perl
Package: linux-libc-dev
Package: make
Package: net-tools
Package: netbase
Package: patch
Package: perl
Package: perl-modules

which is why apt was not installed (debootstrap looks at Build-Essential
when using --variant=buildd).

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Daniel Moerner
This is confirmed using archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, so the problem is not
with your local machine (obviously).  debootstrap --variant=buildd only
looks at priority required plus Build-Essential.  The problem is that
apt is in priority important:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~prequired | grep apt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~pimportant | grep apt
i A apt - Advanced front-end for dpkg   
i A apt-utils   - APT utility programs

I did not mark this as a confirmed bug because this appears to be
intentional behavior, so I think this might be a feature rather than a
bug.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Additionally, I don't see anything in the apt changelog mentinoing it
needing to be important, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-
archive/seeds/platform.intrepid/build-essential has apt listed as
needing to be build-essential.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I would be surprised if this is the intended behavior, as it breaks
sbuild (and presumably pbuilder) and makes --variant=buildd somewhat
useless, AFAICT as I can't actually start to build anything in these
chroots, without having to do extra work in the chroot.  Perhaps I am
missing something though...

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
This bug is a bit twisty. What's happened is that germinate now expands
Recommends as well as Depends when expanding seeds; this causes apt to
be pulled into required from germinate's point of view, which means that
as far as it's concerned it no longer needs to be listed as build-
essential. However, the archive admin team hasn't yet actually promoted
apt and its dependencies to Priority: required.

At the moment I'm not sure whether germinate should stop expanding
Recommends in the required (and maybe even minimal) seeds since
debootstrap doesn't do that, or whether debootstrap should start
expanding Recommends. I'm inclined towards the former.

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: debootstrap => germinate

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Colin Watson (kamion)
   Target: None => intrepid-alpha-5

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
germinate 1.7 was installed on drescher a few days ago, so this bug is
now fixed.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
revno: 1234
committer: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
branch nick: platform.intrepid
timestamp: Mon 2008-09-01 01:38:39 +0100
message:
  disable following of Recommends for required seed (LP: #254042)

This will only become effective once our sysadmins install germinate 1.7
on drescher; I'll file a ticket for that separately.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package germinate - 1.7

---
germinate (1.7) unstable; urgency=low

  * Add support for setting per-seed features, so that following Recommends
can be disabled for some seeds but not others (LP: #254042).

 -- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Mon,  01 Sep 2008 01:43:22
+0100

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Jamie Strandboge
In an intrepid VM, I ran:

$ apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl -F Build-Essential -s Package yes
Package: binutils
Package: build-essential
Package: bzip2
Package: cpio
Package: dpkg-dev
Package: g++
Package: g++-4.3
Package: gcc
Package: gcc-4.3
Package: ifupdown
Package: libc6-dev
Package: libgdbm3
Package: libgomp1
Package: libstdc++6-4.3-dev
Package: libtimedate-perl
Package: linux-libc-dev
Package: make
Package: net-tools
Package: netbase
Package: patch
Package: perl
Package: perl-modules

which is why apt was not installed (debootstrap looks at Build-Essential
when using --variant=buildd).

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Daniel Moerner
This is confirmed using archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, so the problem is not
with your local machine (obviously).  debootstrap --variant=buildd only
looks at priority required plus Build-Essential.  The problem is that
apt is in priority important:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~prequired | grep apt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~pimportant | grep apt
i A apt - Advanced front-end for dpkg   
i A apt-utils   - APT utility programs

I did not mark this as a confirmed bug because this appears to be
intentional behavior, so I think this might be a feature rather than a
bug.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Additionally, I don't see anything in the apt changelog mentinoing it
needing to be important, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-
archive/seeds/platform.intrepid/build-essential has apt listed as
needing to be build-essential.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I would be surprised if this is the intended behavior, as it breaks
sbuild (and presumably pbuilder) and makes --variant=buildd somewhat
useless, AFAICT as I can't actually start to build anything in these
chroots, without having to do extra work in the chroot.  Perhaps I am
missing something though...

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread kundai
I can also confirm the bug.

** Changed in: debootstrap (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
Or rather, not that I don't understand why this bug exists, but I doubt
now that it is a bug in debootstrap.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't understand why this bug exists.  If you compare a diff of the
two (you do gutsy as both intrepid and hardy buildd are symlinks to
gutsy) you don't see any difference:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff 
debootstrap-1.0.10/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy debootstrap-1.0.8/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy 
45c45
< chown 0:0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"
---
> chown 0.0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't see this in apt either:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.9ubuntu17$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../hardy-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.14ubuntu5$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../intrepid-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff intrepid-be.grep hardy-
be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$

Any ideas?

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
This bug is a bit twisty. What's happened is that germinate now expands
Recommends as well as Depends when expanding seeds; this causes apt to
be pulled into required from germinate's point of view, which means that
as far as it's concerned it no longer needs to be listed as build-
essential. However, the archive admin team hasn't yet actually promoted
apt and its dependencies to Priority: required.

At the moment I'm not sure whether germinate should stop expanding
Recommends in the required (and maybe even minimal) seeds since
debootstrap doesn't do that, or whether debootstrap should start
expanding Recommends. I'm inclined towards the former.

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: debootstrap => germinate

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Colin Watson (kamion)
   Target: None => intrepid-alpha-5

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
germinate 1.7 was installed on drescher a few days ago, so this bug is
now fixed.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
revno: 1234
committer: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
branch nick: platform.intrepid
timestamp: Mon 2008-09-01 01:38:39 +0100
message:
  disable following of Recommends for required seed (LP: #254042)

This will only become effective once our sysadmins install germinate 1.7
on drescher; I'll file a ticket for that separately.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package germinate - 1.7

---
germinate (1.7) unstable; urgency=low

  * Add support for setting per-seed features, so that following Recommends
can be disabled for some seeds but not others (LP: #254042).

 -- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Mon,  01 Sep 2008 01:43:22
+0100

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread kundai
I can also confirm the bug.

** Changed in: debootstrap (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
Or rather, not that I don't understand why this bug exists, but I doubt
now that it is a bug in debootstrap.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't understand why this bug exists.  If you compare a diff of the
two (you do gutsy as both intrepid and hardy buildd are symlinks to
gutsy) you don't see any difference:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff 
debootstrap-1.0.10/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy debootstrap-1.0.8/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy 
45c45
< chown 0:0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"
---
> chown 0.0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't see this in apt either:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.9ubuntu17$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../hardy-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.14ubuntu5$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../intrepid-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff intrepid-be.grep hardy-
be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$

Any ideas?

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
This bug is a bit twisty. What's happened is that germinate now expands
Recommends as well as Depends when expanding seeds; this causes apt to
be pulled into required from germinate's point of view, which means that
as far as it's concerned it no longer needs to be listed as build-
essential. However, the archive admin team hasn't yet actually promoted
apt and its dependencies to Priority: required.

At the moment I'm not sure whether germinate should stop expanding
Recommends in the required (and maybe even minimal) seeds since
debootstrap doesn't do that, or whether debootstrap should start
expanding Recommends. I'm inclined towards the former.

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: debootstrap => germinate

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Colin Watson (kamion)
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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Jamie Strandboge
In an intrepid VM, I ran:

$ apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl -F Build-Essential -s Package yes
Package: binutils
Package: build-essential
Package: bzip2
Package: cpio
Package: dpkg-dev
Package: g++
Package: g++-4.3
Package: gcc
Package: gcc-4.3
Package: ifupdown
Package: libc6-dev
Package: libgdbm3
Package: libgomp1
Package: libstdc++6-4.3-dev
Package: libtimedate-perl
Package: linux-libc-dev
Package: make
Package: net-tools
Package: netbase
Package: patch
Package: perl
Package: perl-modules

which is why apt was not installed (debootstrap looks at Build-Essential
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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Daniel Moerner
This is confirmed using archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, so the problem is not
with your local machine (obviously).  debootstrap --variant=buildd only
looks at priority required plus Build-Essential.  The problem is that
apt is in priority important:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~prequired | grep apt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~pimportant | grep apt
i A apt - Advanced front-end for dpkg   
i A apt-utils   - APT utility programs

I did not mark this as a confirmed bug because this appears to be
intentional behavior, so I think this might be a feature rather than a
bug.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Additionally, I don't see anything in the apt changelog mentinoing it
needing to be important, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-
archive/seeds/platform.intrepid/build-essential has apt listed as
needing to be build-essential.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I would be surprised if this is the intended behavior, as it breaks
sbuild (and presumably pbuilder) and makes --variant=buildd somewhat
useless, AFAICT as I can't actually start to build anything in these
chroots, without having to do extra work in the chroot.  Perhaps I am
missing something though...

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
germinate 1.7 was installed on drescher a few days ago, so this bug is
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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
revno: 1234
committer: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
branch nick: platform.intrepid
timestamp: Mon 2008-09-01 01:38:39 +0100
message:
  disable following of Recommends for required seed (LP: #254042)

This will only become effective once our sysadmins install germinate 1.7
on drescher; I'll file a ticket for that separately.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package germinate - 1.7

---
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  * Add support for setting per-seed features, so that following Recommends
can be disabled for some seeds but not others (LP: #254042).

 -- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Mon,  01 Sep 2008 01:43:22
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** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
germinate 1.7 was installed on drescher a few days ago, so this bug is
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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
revno: 1234
committer: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
branch nick: platform.intrepid
timestamp: Mon 2008-09-01 01:38:39 +0100
message:
  disable following of Recommends for required seed (LP: #254042)

This will only become effective once our sysadmins install germinate 1.7
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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package germinate - 1.7

---
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  * Add support for setting per-seed features, so that following Recommends
can be disabled for some seeds but not others (LP: #254042).

 -- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Mon,  01 Sep 2008 01:43:22
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** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread kundai
I can also confirm the bug.

** Changed in: debootstrap (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
Or rather, not that I don't understand why this bug exists, but I doubt
now that it is a bug in debootstrap.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't understand why this bug exists.  If you compare a diff of the
two (you do gutsy as both intrepid and hardy buildd are symlinks to
gutsy) you don't see any difference:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff 
debootstrap-1.0.10/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy debootstrap-1.0.8/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy 
45c45
< chown 0:0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"
---
> chown 0.0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't see this in apt either:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.9ubuntu17$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../hardy-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.14ubuntu5$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../intrepid-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff intrepid-be.grep hardy-
be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$

Any ideas?

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
This bug is a bit twisty. What's happened is that germinate now expands
Recommends as well as Depends when expanding seeds; this causes apt to
be pulled into required from germinate's point of view, which means that
as far as it's concerned it no longer needs to be listed as build-
essential. However, the archive admin team hasn't yet actually promoted
apt and its dependencies to Priority: required.

At the moment I'm not sure whether germinate should stop expanding
Recommends in the required (and maybe even minimal) seeds since
debootstrap doesn't do that, or whether debootstrap should start
expanding Recommends. I'm inclined towards the former.

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: debootstrap => germinate

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Colin Watson (kamion)
   Target: None => intrepid-alpha-5

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Jamie Strandboge
In an intrepid VM, I ran:

$ apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl -F Build-Essential -s Package yes
Package: binutils
Package: build-essential
Package: bzip2
Package: cpio
Package: dpkg-dev
Package: g++
Package: g++-4.3
Package: gcc
Package: gcc-4.3
Package: ifupdown
Package: libc6-dev
Package: libgdbm3
Package: libgomp1
Package: libstdc++6-4.3-dev
Package: libtimedate-perl
Package: linux-libc-dev
Package: make
Package: net-tools
Package: netbase
Package: patch
Package: perl
Package: perl-modules

which is why apt was not installed (debootstrap looks at Build-Essential
when using --variant=buildd).

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Daniel Moerner
This is confirmed using archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, so the problem is not
with your local machine (obviously).  debootstrap --variant=buildd only
looks at priority required plus Build-Essential.  The problem is that
apt is in priority important:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~prequired | grep apt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~pimportant | grep apt
i A apt - Advanced front-end for dpkg   
i A apt-utils   - APT utility programs

I did not mark this as a confirmed bug because this appears to be
intentional behavior, so I think this might be a feature rather than a
bug.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Additionally, I don't see anything in the apt changelog mentinoing it
needing to be important, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-
archive/seeds/platform.intrepid/build-essential has apt listed as
needing to be build-essential.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I would be surprised if this is the intended behavior, as it breaks
sbuild (and presumably pbuilder) and makes --variant=buildd somewhat
useless, AFAICT as I can't actually start to build anything in these
chroots, without having to do extra work in the chroot.  Perhaps I am
missing something though...

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread kundai
I can also confirm the bug.

** Changed in: debootstrap (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
Or rather, not that I don't understand why this bug exists, but I doubt
now that it is a bug in debootstrap.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't understand why this bug exists.  If you compare a diff of the
two (you do gutsy as both intrepid and hardy buildd are symlinks to
gutsy) you don't see any difference:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff 
debootstrap-1.0.10/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy debootstrap-1.0.8/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy 
45c45
< chown 0:0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"
---
> chown 0.0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't see this in apt either:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.9ubuntu17$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../hardy-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.14ubuntu5$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../intrepid-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff intrepid-be.grep hardy-
be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$

Any ideas?

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
This bug is a bit twisty. What's happened is that germinate now expands
Recommends as well as Depends when expanding seeds; this causes apt to
be pulled into required from germinate's point of view, which means that
as far as it's concerned it no longer needs to be listed as build-
essential. However, the archive admin team hasn't yet actually promoted
apt and its dependencies to Priority: required.

At the moment I'm not sure whether germinate should stop expanding
Recommends in the required (and maybe even minimal) seeds since
debootstrap doesn't do that, or whether debootstrap should start
expanding Recommends. I'm inclined towards the former.

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: debootstrap => germinate

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Colin Watson (kamion)
   Target: None => intrepid-alpha-5

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Jamie Strandboge
In an intrepid VM, I ran:

$ apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl -F Build-Essential -s Package yes
Package: binutils
Package: build-essential
Package: bzip2
Package: cpio
Package: dpkg-dev
Package: g++
Package: g++-4.3
Package: gcc
Package: gcc-4.3
Package: ifupdown
Package: libc6-dev
Package: libgdbm3
Package: libgomp1
Package: libstdc++6-4.3-dev
Package: libtimedate-perl
Package: linux-libc-dev
Package: make
Package: net-tools
Package: netbase
Package: patch
Package: perl
Package: perl-modules

which is why apt was not installed (debootstrap looks at Build-Essential
when using --variant=buildd).

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Daniel Moerner
This is confirmed using archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, so the problem is not
with your local machine (obviously).  debootstrap --variant=buildd only
looks at priority required plus Build-Essential.  The problem is that
apt is in priority important:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~prequired | grep apt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~pimportant | grep apt
i A apt - Advanced front-end for dpkg   
i A apt-utils   - APT utility programs

I did not mark this as a confirmed bug because this appears to be
intentional behavior, so I think this might be a feature rather than a
bug.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Additionally, I don't see anything in the apt changelog mentinoing it
needing to be important, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-
archive/seeds/platform.intrepid/build-essential has apt listed as
needing to be build-essential.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I would be surprised if this is the intended behavior, as it breaks
sbuild (and presumably pbuilder) and makes --variant=buildd somewhat
useless, AFAICT as I can't actually start to build anything in these
chroots, without having to do extra work in the chroot.  Perhaps I am
missing something though...

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
germinate 1.7 was installed on drescher a few days ago, so this bug is
now fixed.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
revno: 1234
committer: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
branch nick: platform.intrepid
timestamp: Mon 2008-09-01 01:38:39 +0100
message:
  disable following of Recommends for required seed (LP: #254042)

This will only become effective once our sysadmins install germinate 1.7
on drescher; I'll file a ticket for that separately.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package germinate - 1.7

---
germinate (1.7) unstable; urgency=low

  * Add support for setting per-seed features, so that following Recommends
can be disabled for some seeds but not others (LP: #254042).

 -- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Mon,  01 Sep 2008 01:43:22
+0100

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread kundai
I can also confirm the bug.

** Changed in: debootstrap (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
Or rather, not that I don't understand why this bug exists, but I doubt
now that it is a bug in debootstrap.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't understand why this bug exists.  If you compare a diff of the
two (you do gutsy as both intrepid and hardy buildd are symlinks to
gutsy) you don't see any difference:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff 
debootstrap-1.0.10/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy debootstrap-1.0.8/scripts/ubuntu/gutsy 
45c45
< chown 0:0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"
---
> chown 0.0 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"; chmod 644 "$TARGET/etc/fstab"

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-09 Thread Daniel Moerner
I don't see this in apt either:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.9ubuntu17$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../hardy-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap/apt-0.7.14ubuntu5$ find . -exec
grep -i build-essential {} + | grep -v "/doc/" > ../intrepid-be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$ diff intrepid-be.grep hardy-
be.grep

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/Documents/Work/debootstrap$

Any ideas?

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
This bug is a bit twisty. What's happened is that germinate now expands
Recommends as well as Depends when expanding seeds; this causes apt to
be pulled into required from germinate's point of view, which means that
as far as it's concerned it no longer needs to be listed as build-
essential. However, the archive admin team hasn't yet actually promoted
apt and its dependencies to Priority: required.

At the moment I'm not sure whether germinate should stop expanding
Recommends in the required (and maybe even minimal) seeds since
debootstrap doesn't do that, or whether debootstrap should start
expanding Recommends. I'm inclined towards the former.

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: debootstrap => germinate

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-19 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Colin Watson (kamion)
   Target: None => intrepid-alpha-5

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Jamie Strandboge
In an intrepid VM, I ran:

$ apt-cache dumpavail | grep-dctrl -F Build-Essential -s Package yes
Package: binutils
Package: build-essential
Package: bzip2
Package: cpio
Package: dpkg-dev
Package: g++
Package: g++-4.3
Package: gcc
Package: gcc-4.3
Package: ifupdown
Package: libc6-dev
Package: libgdbm3
Package: libgomp1
Package: libstdc++6-4.3-dev
Package: libtimedate-perl
Package: linux-libc-dev
Package: make
Package: net-tools
Package: netbase
Package: patch
Package: perl
Package: perl-modules

which is why apt was not installed (debootstrap looks at Build-Essential
when using --variant=buildd).

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-01 Thread Daniel Moerner
This is confirmed using archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu, so the problem is not
with your local machine (obviously).  debootstrap --variant=buildd only
looks at priority required plus Build-Essential.  The problem is that
apt is in priority important:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~prequired | grep apt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ aptitude search ~pimportant | grep apt
i A apt - Advanced front-end for dpkg   
i A apt-utils   - APT utility programs

I did not mark this as a confirmed bug because this appears to be
intentional behavior, so I think this might be a feature rather than a
bug.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Additionally, I don't see anything in the apt changelog mentinoing it
needing to be important, and http://people.ubuntu.com/~ubuntu-
archive/seeds/platform.intrepid/build-essential has apt listed as
needing to be build-essential.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-02 Thread Jamie Strandboge
I would be surprised if this is the intended behavior, as it breaks
sbuild (and presumably pbuilder) and makes --variant=buildd somewhat
useless, AFAICT as I can't actually start to build anything in these
chroots, without having to do extra work in the chroot.  Perhaps I am
missing something though...

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-09-04 Thread Colin Watson
germinate 1.7 was installed on drescher a few days ago, so this bug is
now fixed.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
revno: 1234
committer: Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
branch nick: platform.intrepid
timestamp: Mon 2008-09-01 01:38:39 +0100
message:
  disable following of Recommends for required seed (LP: #254042)

This will only become effective once our sysadmins install germinate 1.7
on drescher; I'll file a ticket for that separately.

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[Bug 254042] Re: debootstrap does not install apt with --variant=buildd for intrepid chroot

2008-08-31 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package germinate - 1.7

---
germinate (1.7) unstable; urgency=low

  * Add support for setting per-seed features, so that following Recommends
can be disabled for some seeds but not others (LP: #254042).

 -- Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Mon,  01 Sep 2008 01:43:22
+0100

** Changed in: germinate (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Confirmed => Fix Released

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