[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This fix is very important for Landscape. Landscape _will_not_work_ without it. ** Summary changed: - landscape-client should have a cron job for updating smart package data + landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Target: None => ubuntu-8.10-beta -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Hi Chris, Given that landscape-client starts a daemon if enabled (/usr/bin /landscape-client, launched from /etc/init.d/landscape-client), wouldn't it be preferable to have landscape-client itself run this update periodically, rather than having cron run it? Alternatively, could you adjust this cron job to source /etc/default /landscape-client, and only run the update when landscape is enabled, the way the init script itself does? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Would a daily cron job be possible ? An hourly cron job would put unnecessary strain on the archive. Update- notifier and the apt update cron job are run on daily basis. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
What about this for the cron job? It only runs if landscape-client is enabled. #!/bin/sh [ -f "/etc/default/landscape-client" ] || exit 0 source /etc/default/landscape-client [ "$RUN" -eq "1" ] && /usr/share/smart/smart update > /dev/null 2>&1 exit 0 -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This bug was fixed in the package landscape-client - 1.0.21-0ubuntu2 --- landscape-client (1.0.21-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low * debian/rules: Install an hourly cron job to update smart package data. Thanks to Christopher Armstrong (LP: #268765). * debian/control: - Move ${misc:Depends} to Depends. - Add VCS-* headers. * debian/landscape-client.postrm: - remove /etc/default/landscape-client when the package is purged. -- Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:19:26 -0400 ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Released -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Erm, isn't a hourly cronjob a bit exaggerated? Mirrors only update daily, and the already existing cronjob for apt runs once a day. Also, why can't smart use the already existing downloaded apt cache? Eventually it just gets the Packages.gz files, we don't provide any other index. Why does it need to download them a second time? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This hourly cronjob was debated yesterday on #ubuntu-devel. For now, we are keeping it, specially because we changed it so it only runs when landscape-client itself is running: niemeyer: the concern is to put too much load on the servers and mirrors mathiaz: I agree that if you're managing a bunch of workstations centrally, you want the average latency to be much lower than 12h mathiaz: Well, I agree.. it would consume less resources from the server * warp10 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) mathiaz: The question, though, is if it makes an important difference or not mathiaz: It does make a difference for Landscape usability mathiaz: If you're concerned about it, we can ask elmo about it niemeyer: the main raise I'm asking is that the default ubuntu install (with apt) doesn't update on a hourly basis. mathiaz: It's a slightly different use case I guess niemeyer: right - if it makes a difference for landscape usability than a hourly cron job is the best option mathiaz: We can always fire APT/Synaptic/whatever and get the current infomration mathiaz: For a server-side solution that's not so practical * warp10_ is now known as warp10 hmm, on-demand triggering of an update check isn't possible? slangasek: It is definitely possible, but it's a bad UI * effie_jayx has quit (Remote closed the connection) ok. I imagine it would be a suboptimal user experience regardless, due to the latency of checking * seb128 has quit ("Ex-Chat") slangasek: Try to imagine something like "The information you're looking at is 20h old. If you want to know the current updates, click on Update All Systems and come back in a few minutes." right :) * seb128 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/member/seb128) has joined #ubuntu-devel re (sorry, got some spontaneous guests) anyway, I'm certainly not arguing against the 1h cronjob About smart using pkglist from apt, it may happen sometime in the future, but not now. I can imagine a few people becoming concerned if suddenly smart used apt's cache, or, as it would indeed happen, "smart update" also updated apt's cache. It would have to go both ways. And remember that smart works with more package resolvers/systems than just apt/deb, so such a solution would probably be better if it were generalized. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This only required packaging change, not upstream change, so marking Invalid for landscape-client upstream ** Changed in: landscape-client Status: In Progress => Invalid -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This fix is very important for Landscape. Landscape _will_not_work_ without it. ** Summary changed: - landscape-client should have a cron job for updating smart package data + landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Target: None => ubuntu-8.10-beta -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Hi Chris, Given that landscape-client starts a daemon if enabled (/usr/bin /landscape-client, launched from /etc/init.d/landscape-client), wouldn't it be preferable to have landscape-client itself run this update periodically, rather than having cron run it? Alternatively, could you adjust this cron job to source /etc/default /landscape-client, and only run the update when landscape is enabled, the way the init script itself does? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Would a daily cron job be possible ? An hourly cron job would put unnecessary strain on the archive. Update- notifier and the apt update cron job are run on daily basis. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
What about this for the cron job? It only runs if landscape-client is enabled. #!/bin/sh [ -f "/etc/default/landscape-client" ] || exit 0 source /etc/default/landscape-client [ "$RUN" -eq "1" ] && /usr/share/smart/smart update > /dev/null 2>&1 exit 0 -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This bug was fixed in the package landscape-client - 1.0.21-0ubuntu2 --- landscape-client (1.0.21-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low * debian/rules: Install an hourly cron job to update smart package data. Thanks to Christopher Armstrong (LP: #268765). * debian/control: - Move ${misc:Depends} to Depends. - Add VCS-* headers. * debian/landscape-client.postrm: - remove /etc/default/landscape-client when the package is purged. -- Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:19:26 -0400 ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Released -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Erm, isn't a hourly cronjob a bit exaggerated? Mirrors only update daily, and the already existing cronjob for apt runs once a day. Also, why can't smart use the already existing downloaded apt cache? Eventually it just gets the Packages.gz files, we don't provide any other index. Why does it need to download them a second time? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This hourly cronjob was debated yesterday on #ubuntu-devel. For now, we are keeping it, specially because we changed it so it only runs when landscape-client itself is running: niemeyer: the concern is to put too much load on the servers and mirrors mathiaz: I agree that if you're managing a bunch of workstations centrally, you want the average latency to be much lower than 12h mathiaz: Well, I agree.. it would consume less resources from the server * warp10 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) mathiaz: The question, though, is if it makes an important difference or not mathiaz: It does make a difference for Landscape usability mathiaz: If you're concerned about it, we can ask elmo about it niemeyer: the main raise I'm asking is that the default ubuntu install (with apt) doesn't update on a hourly basis. mathiaz: It's a slightly different use case I guess niemeyer: right - if it makes a difference for landscape usability than a hourly cron job is the best option mathiaz: We can always fire APT/Synaptic/whatever and get the current infomration mathiaz: For a server-side solution that's not so practical * warp10_ is now known as warp10 hmm, on-demand triggering of an update check isn't possible? slangasek: It is definitely possible, but it's a bad UI * effie_jayx has quit (Remote closed the connection) ok. I imagine it would be a suboptimal user experience regardless, due to the latency of checking * seb128 has quit ("Ex-Chat") slangasek: Try to imagine something like "The information you're looking at is 20h old. If you want to know the current updates, click on Update All Systems and come back in a few minutes." right :) * seb128 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/member/seb128) has joined #ubuntu-devel re (sorry, got some spontaneous guests) anyway, I'm certainly not arguing against the 1h cronjob About smart using pkglist from apt, it may happen sometime in the future, but not now. I can imagine a few people becoming concerned if suddenly smart used apt's cache, or, as it would indeed happen, "smart update" also updated apt's cache. It would have to go both ways. And remember that smart works with more package resolvers/systems than just apt/deb, so such a solution would probably be better if it were generalized. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This only required packaging change, not upstream change, so marking Invalid for landscape-client upstream ** Changed in: landscape-client Status: In Progress => Invalid -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This fix is very important for Landscape. Landscape _will_not_work_ without it. ** Summary changed: - landscape-client should have a cron job for updating smart package data + landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Target: None => ubuntu-8.10-beta -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Hi Chris, Given that landscape-client starts a daemon if enabled (/usr/bin /landscape-client, launched from /etc/init.d/landscape-client), wouldn't it be preferable to have landscape-client itself run this update periodically, rather than having cron run it? Alternatively, could you adjust this cron job to source /etc/default /landscape-client, and only run the update when landscape is enabled, the way the init script itself does? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Would a daily cron job be possible ? An hourly cron job would put unnecessary strain on the archive. Update- notifier and the apt update cron job are run on daily basis. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
What about this for the cron job? It only runs if landscape-client is enabled. #!/bin/sh [ -f "/etc/default/landscape-client" ] || exit 0 source /etc/default/landscape-client [ "$RUN" -eq "1" ] && /usr/share/smart/smart update > /dev/null 2>&1 exit 0 -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This bug was fixed in the package landscape-client - 1.0.21-0ubuntu2 --- landscape-client (1.0.21-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low * debian/rules: Install an hourly cron job to update smart package data. Thanks to Christopher Armstrong (LP: #268765). * debian/control: - Move ${misc:Depends} to Depends. - Add VCS-* headers. * debian/landscape-client.postrm: - remove /etc/default/landscape-client when the package is purged. -- Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:19:26 -0400 ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Released -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Erm, isn't a hourly cronjob a bit exaggerated? Mirrors only update daily, and the already existing cronjob for apt runs once a day. Also, why can't smart use the already existing downloaded apt cache? Eventually it just gets the Packages.gz files, we don't provide any other index. Why does it need to download them a second time? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This hourly cronjob was debated yesterday on #ubuntu-devel. For now, we are keeping it, specially because we changed it so it only runs when landscape-client itself is running: niemeyer: the concern is to put too much load on the servers and mirrors mathiaz: I agree that if you're managing a bunch of workstations centrally, you want the average latency to be much lower than 12h mathiaz: Well, I agree.. it would consume less resources from the server * warp10 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) mathiaz: The question, though, is if it makes an important difference or not mathiaz: It does make a difference for Landscape usability mathiaz: If you're concerned about it, we can ask elmo about it niemeyer: the main raise I'm asking is that the default ubuntu install (with apt) doesn't update on a hourly basis. mathiaz: It's a slightly different use case I guess niemeyer: right - if it makes a difference for landscape usability than a hourly cron job is the best option mathiaz: We can always fire APT/Synaptic/whatever and get the current infomration mathiaz: For a server-side solution that's not so practical * warp10_ is now known as warp10 hmm, on-demand triggering of an update check isn't possible? slangasek: It is definitely possible, but it's a bad UI * effie_jayx has quit (Remote closed the connection) ok. I imagine it would be a suboptimal user experience regardless, due to the latency of checking * seb128 has quit ("Ex-Chat") slangasek: Try to imagine something like "The information you're looking at is 20h old. If you want to know the current updates, click on Update All Systems and come back in a few minutes." right :) * seb128 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/member/seb128) has joined #ubuntu-devel re (sorry, got some spontaneous guests) anyway, I'm certainly not arguing against the 1h cronjob About smart using pkglist from apt, it may happen sometime in the future, but not now. I can imagine a few people becoming concerned if suddenly smart used apt's cache, or, as it would indeed happen, "smart update" also updated apt's cache. It would have to go both ways. And remember that smart works with more package resolvers/systems than just apt/deb, so such a solution would probably be better if it were generalized. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This only required packaging change, not upstream change, so marking Invalid for landscape-client upstream ** Changed in: landscape-client Status: In Progress => Invalid -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This fix is very important for Landscape. Landscape _will_not_work_ without it. ** Summary changed: - landscape-client should have a cron job for updating smart package data + landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Target: None => ubuntu-8.10-beta -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Hi Chris, Given that landscape-client starts a daemon if enabled (/usr/bin /landscape-client, launched from /etc/init.d/landscape-client), wouldn't it be preferable to have landscape-client itself run this update periodically, rather than having cron run it? Alternatively, could you adjust this cron job to source /etc/default /landscape-client, and only run the update when landscape is enabled, the way the init script itself does? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Would a daily cron job be possible ? An hourly cron job would put unnecessary strain on the archive. Update- notifier and the apt update cron job are run on daily basis. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This fix is very important for Landscape. Landscape _will_not_work_ without it. ** Summary changed: - landscape-client should have a cron job for updating smart package data + landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Target: None => ubuntu-8.10-beta -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Hi Chris, Given that landscape-client starts a daemon if enabled (/usr/bin /landscape-client, launched from /etc/init.d/landscape-client), wouldn't it be preferable to have landscape-client itself run this update periodically, rather than having cron run it? Alternatively, could you adjust this cron job to source /etc/default /landscape-client, and only run the update when landscape is enabled, the way the init script itself does? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Would a daily cron job be possible ? An hourly cron job would put unnecessary strain on the archive. Update- notifier and the apt update cron job are run on daily basis. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
What about this for the cron job? It only runs if landscape-client is enabled. #!/bin/sh [ -f "/etc/default/landscape-client" ] || exit 0 source /etc/default/landscape-client [ "$RUN" -eq "1" ] && /usr/share/smart/smart update > /dev/null 2>&1 exit 0 -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This bug was fixed in the package landscape-client - 1.0.21-0ubuntu2 --- landscape-client (1.0.21-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low * debian/rules: Install an hourly cron job to update smart package data. Thanks to Christopher Armstrong (LP: #268765). * debian/control: - Move ${misc:Depends} to Depends. - Add VCS-* headers. * debian/landscape-client.postrm: - remove /etc/default/landscape-client when the package is purged. -- Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:19:26 -0400 ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Released -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Erm, isn't a hourly cronjob a bit exaggerated? Mirrors only update daily, and the already existing cronjob for apt runs once a day. Also, why can't smart use the already existing downloaded apt cache? Eventually it just gets the Packages.gz files, we don't provide any other index. Why does it need to download them a second time? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This hourly cronjob was debated yesterday on #ubuntu-devel. For now, we are keeping it, specially because we changed it so it only runs when landscape-client itself is running: niemeyer: the concern is to put too much load on the servers and mirrors mathiaz: I agree that if you're managing a bunch of workstations centrally, you want the average latency to be much lower than 12h mathiaz: Well, I agree.. it would consume less resources from the server * warp10 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) mathiaz: The question, though, is if it makes an important difference or not mathiaz: It does make a difference for Landscape usability mathiaz: If you're concerned about it, we can ask elmo about it niemeyer: the main raise I'm asking is that the default ubuntu install (with apt) doesn't update on a hourly basis. mathiaz: It's a slightly different use case I guess niemeyer: right - if it makes a difference for landscape usability than a hourly cron job is the best option mathiaz: We can always fire APT/Synaptic/whatever and get the current infomration mathiaz: For a server-side solution that's not so practical * warp10_ is now known as warp10 hmm, on-demand triggering of an update check isn't possible? slangasek: It is definitely possible, but it's a bad UI * effie_jayx has quit (Remote closed the connection) ok. I imagine it would be a suboptimal user experience regardless, due to the latency of checking * seb128 has quit ("Ex-Chat") slangasek: Try to imagine something like "The information you're looking at is 20h old. If you want to know the current updates, click on Update All Systems and come back in a few minutes." right :) * seb128 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/member/seb128) has joined #ubuntu-devel re (sorry, got some spontaneous guests) anyway, I'm certainly not arguing against the 1h cronjob About smart using pkglist from apt, it may happen sometime in the future, but not now. I can imagine a few people becoming concerned if suddenly smart used apt's cache, or, as it would indeed happen, "smart update" also updated apt's cache. It would have to go both ways. And remember that smart works with more package resolvers/systems than just apt/deb, so such a solution would probably be better if it were generalized. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This only required packaging change, not upstream change, so marking Invalid for landscape-client upstream ** Changed in: landscape-client Status: In Progress => Invalid -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
What about this for the cron job? It only runs if landscape-client is enabled. #!/bin/sh [ -f "/etc/default/landscape-client" ] || exit 0 source /etc/default/landscape-client [ "$RUN" -eq "1" ] && /usr/share/smart/smart update > /dev/null 2>&1 exit 0 -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This bug was fixed in the package landscape-client - 1.0.21-0ubuntu2 --- landscape-client (1.0.21-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low * debian/rules: Install an hourly cron job to update smart package data. Thanks to Christopher Armstrong (LP: #268765). * debian/control: - Move ${misc:Depends} to Depends. - Add VCS-* headers. * debian/landscape-client.postrm: - remove /etc/default/landscape-client when the package is purged. -- Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:19:26 -0400 ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Released -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Erm, isn't a hourly cronjob a bit exaggerated? Mirrors only update daily, and the already existing cronjob for apt runs once a day. Also, why can't smart use the already existing downloaded apt cache? Eventually it just gets the Packages.gz files, we don't provide any other index. Why does it need to download them a second time? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This hourly cronjob was debated yesterday on #ubuntu-devel. For now, we are keeping it, specially because we changed it so it only runs when landscape-client itself is running: niemeyer: the concern is to put too much load on the servers and mirrors mathiaz: I agree that if you're managing a bunch of workstations centrally, you want the average latency to be much lower than 12h mathiaz: Well, I agree.. it would consume less resources from the server * warp10 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) mathiaz: The question, though, is if it makes an important difference or not mathiaz: It does make a difference for Landscape usability mathiaz: If you're concerned about it, we can ask elmo about it niemeyer: the main raise I'm asking is that the default ubuntu install (with apt) doesn't update on a hourly basis. mathiaz: It's a slightly different use case I guess niemeyer: right - if it makes a difference for landscape usability than a hourly cron job is the best option mathiaz: We can always fire APT/Synaptic/whatever and get the current infomration mathiaz: For a server-side solution that's not so practical * warp10_ is now known as warp10 hmm, on-demand triggering of an update check isn't possible? slangasek: It is definitely possible, but it's a bad UI * effie_jayx has quit (Remote closed the connection) ok. I imagine it would be a suboptimal user experience regardless, due to the latency of checking * seb128 has quit ("Ex-Chat") slangasek: Try to imagine something like "The information you're looking at is 20h old. If you want to know the current updates, click on Update All Systems and come back in a few minutes." right :) * seb128 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/member/seb128) has joined #ubuntu-devel re (sorry, got some spontaneous guests) anyway, I'm certainly not arguing against the 1h cronjob About smart using pkglist from apt, it may happen sometime in the future, but not now. I can imagine a few people becoming concerned if suddenly smart used apt's cache, or, as it would indeed happen, "smart update" also updated apt's cache. It would have to go both ways. And remember that smart works with more package resolvers/systems than just apt/deb, so such a solution would probably be better if it were generalized. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This only required packaging change, not upstream change, so marking Invalid for landscape-client upstream ** Changed in: landscape-client Status: In Progress => Invalid -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This fix is very important for Landscape. Landscape _will_not_work_ without it. ** Summary changed: - landscape-client should have a cron job for updating smart package data + landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Critical ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Target: None => ubuntu-8.10-beta -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Hi Chris, Given that landscape-client starts a daemon if enabled (/usr/bin /landscape-client, launched from /etc/init.d/landscape-client), wouldn't it be preferable to have landscape-client itself run this update periodically, rather than having cron run it? Alternatively, could you adjust this cron job to source /etc/default /landscape-client, and only run the update when landscape is enabled, the way the init script itself does? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Would a daily cron job be possible ? An hourly cron job would put unnecessary strain on the archive. Update- notifier and the apt update cron job are run on daily basis. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
What about this for the cron job? It only runs if landscape-client is enabled. #!/bin/sh [ -f "/etc/default/landscape-client" ] || exit 0 source /etc/default/landscape-client [ "$RUN" -eq "1" ] && /usr/share/smart/smart update > /dev/null 2>&1 exit 0 -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This bug was fixed in the package landscape-client - 1.0.21-0ubuntu2 --- landscape-client (1.0.21-0ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low * debian/rules: Install an hourly cron job to update smart package data. Thanks to Christopher Armstrong (LP: #268765). * debian/control: - Move ${misc:Depends} to Depends. - Add VCS-* headers. * debian/landscape-client.postrm: - remove /etc/default/landscape-client when the package is purged. -- Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tue, 23 Sep 2008 18:19:26 -0400 ** Changed in: landscape-client (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Released -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
Erm, isn't a hourly cronjob a bit exaggerated? Mirrors only update daily, and the already existing cronjob for apt runs once a day. Also, why can't smart use the already existing downloaded apt cache? Eventually it just gets the Packages.gz files, we don't provide any other index. Why does it need to download them a second time? -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This hourly cronjob was debated yesterday on #ubuntu-devel. For now, we are keeping it, specially because we changed it so it only runs when landscape-client itself is running: niemeyer: the concern is to put too much load on the servers and mirrors mathiaz: I agree that if you're managing a bunch of workstations centrally, you want the average latency to be much lower than 12h mathiaz: Well, I agree.. it would consume less resources from the server * warp10 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) mathiaz: The question, though, is if it makes an important difference or not mathiaz: It does make a difference for Landscape usability mathiaz: If you're concerned about it, we can ask elmo about it niemeyer: the main raise I'm asking is that the default ubuntu install (with apt) doesn't update on a hourly basis. mathiaz: It's a slightly different use case I guess niemeyer: right - if it makes a difference for landscape usability than a hourly cron job is the best option mathiaz: We can always fire APT/Synaptic/whatever and get the current infomration mathiaz: For a server-side solution that's not so practical * warp10_ is now known as warp10 hmm, on-demand triggering of an update check isn't possible? slangasek: It is definitely possible, but it's a bad UI * effie_jayx has quit (Remote closed the connection) ok. I imagine it would be a suboptimal user experience regardless, due to the latency of checking * seb128 has quit ("Ex-Chat") slangasek: Try to imagine something like "The information you're looking at is 20h old. If you want to know the current updates, click on Update All Systems and come back in a few minutes." right :) * seb128 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]/member/seb128) has joined #ubuntu-devel re (sorry, got some spontaneous guests) anyway, I'm certainly not arguing against the 1h cronjob About smart using pkglist from apt, it may happen sometime in the future, but not now. I can imagine a few people becoming concerned if suddenly smart used apt's cache, or, as it would indeed happen, "smart update" also updated apt's cache. It would have to go both ways. And remember that smart works with more package resolvers/systems than just apt/deb, so such a solution would probably be better if it were generalized. -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 268765] Re: landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data
This only required packaging change, not upstream change, so marking Invalid for landscape-client upstream ** Changed in: landscape-client Status: In Progress => Invalid -- landscape-client must have a cron job for updating smart package data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/268765 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs