[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
network-manager-openvpn is going to be included in main in bug #1574576 After that, it might be reasonable to add it to desktop-recommends. ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New ** No longer affects: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) ** No longer affects: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Jaunty) ** No longer affects: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu) ** No longer affects: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu Jaunty) ** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** No longer affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) ** Tags removed: papercut ** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 Title: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/278153/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
** No longer affects: network-manager-pptp (Ubuntu) ** No longer affects: network-manager-pptp (Ubuntu Jaunty) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 Title: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/278153/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
For me all work perfect with SSL based VPN...I researched appropriate VPN service, company with unlimited bandwidth and I found Super VPN and I must admit I am very satisfied! They provide me an IP address which I needed so much when I travel abroad... With VPN I could effectively hide my location and gain access to online games, poker websites and other online entertainment. http://www.supervpn.net/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 Title: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/278153/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: network-manager-pptp (Ubuntu) Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: network-manager-pptp (Ubuntu Jaunty) Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Jaunty) Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu Jaunty) Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu) Assignee: Alexander Sack (asac) = (unassigned) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 Title: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Could we get this included for Lucid...? -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Chauncellor, Please refer to bug 107738 about the -pptp plugin being installed by default. As for the other VPN plugins like -vpnc and -openvpn (and others, -openconnect, maybe more coming up?), I don't think it would be likely that all VPN plugins would be installed by default. Seeing as pptp is a special requirement (needs to be there for some DSL users), this is treated differently, but in other cases it's usually possible to go elsewhere to have Internet access without VPN, or to use another method to get the packages and then be able to use the VPN to connect to a secured network. As for as the -vpnc, -openvpn, etc. plugins are concerned, I expect interfacing with PackageKit through nm-applet to interactively install new plugins (as per https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source /network-manager-openvpn/+bug/278153/comments/43) is probably far more likely to happen (through I couldn't say for lucid for sure). -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
This seems to be a duplicate of bug 277496. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
the pptp part is special and is treated in bug 107738 on its own. invalidating here. ** Changed in: network-manager-pptp (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
that said, i am not convinced that we should install all vpn plugins that exist by default. pptp is a exception as some users seem to need that to get online for their provider. so its a bootstrapping thing there. the others could just be installed on-demand using somewizard or something if you go to add new vpn. ** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged ** Changed in: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Triaged -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
In some environments the others are bootstrapping things as well. I can't imagine my school is the only one that requires vpnc to get online. I usually would sneakernet the debs from a Windows computer in the library to get up and running when I lived on campus. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Actually my college requires openvpn to connect. Otherwise one has to dual-boot to Windows or ask a friend to download the packages. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 09:41:43PM -, Xamusk wrote: Actually my college requires openvpn to connect. Otherwise one has to dual-boot to Windows or ask a friend to download the packages. OK. thanks for the info. - Alexander -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Invalid ** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed ** Changed in: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
This requires, at a minimum to follow the bug description, to let the users know that additional packages are required. I see inclusion by default more like a second phase. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 08:09:15AM -, Lex Ross wrote: It is still not trivial to configure L2TP connection in 9.04 with users reporting that 8.04 scripts stopped working with new release. Just Is this bug really about l2tp support? I would suggest to make a separate bug out of it. If possible also create a bug in bugzilla.gnome.org. - Alexander -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
** Tags added: papercut -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Given that what prevents this being fixed is the need for a set of developers willing to own these package and their bugs...I'm not sure how much of a papercut that is. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
It is still not trivial to configure L2TP connection in 9.04 with users reporting that 8.04 scripts stopped working with new release. Just reinforces the idea that things do get broken from one release to another. We really need to do something about this as more and more ISPs move to L2TP Internet connection. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
I already did contribute some changes and fixes upstream, and I try to help out on the bugs on network-manager when I have a chance... That said, I'll bring up the issue on the upstream mailing list (if it isn't there already) and see what needs to be done to put the VPN plugins into workable shape for inclusion in the default install. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
I filed bug 370210 for the specific (hopefully small) GUI change of just explaining in the dialog *why* the controls are greyed out, as requested by https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- vpnc/+bug/278153/comments/28 and others. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Take your rant elsewhere. We're not upstream for this plugin. If you think there are improvements to be made, I'm sure the upstream developers will welcome your patches when you've had time to prepare them. However, you did just show a reason for this plugin to NOT be included by default by pointing out its poor quality. Thank you. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
i register myself the first time just for this rant. I'm fuc*** disappointed with nm openvpn plugin. Have been tried to use it in 3 release since gutsy. IT NEVER WORK UNTIL NOW!!. Using windows openvpn- gui works perfectly everytime since xp to vista. What the hell?? There're tons of openvpn option cannot be configure which led to massive epic fail like pull redirect gateway?? Which is i just guess because i will never know what the hell is nm want due to whatever syslog or error that so clever only the god zeus could decipher. COME ON. So, u don't want to fix it?? OK no problem. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE make it able to import .ovpn file.. or at least tell the user how to convert it so nm can read it. 3 fucking releases just for this and i can't believe it. So u think i don't google? Yeah right... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/278153 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-April/009252.html http://ubuntuforums.org/tags.php?tag=jaunty+openvpn+dbus http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336order=descpage=2 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1139433 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=336 http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=327 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6175119 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021592 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=979085page=2 http://home.gna.org/kvpnc/en/index.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446335 http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=nm- openvpn+script+failed%3A+external+program+exited+with+error+status%3A+1btnG=Searchmeta= http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=nm- openvpn%5B19345%5D%3A+script+failed%3A+external+program+exited+with+error+status%3A+1btnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq= http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=network+manager+openvpn+not+working+.ovpn+what+the+hellbtnG=Searchmeta= http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=network+manager+openvpn+not+working+.ovpn+what+the+helllbtnG=Searchmeta= http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/category/networkmanager/ http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=network+manager+openvpn+shitbtnG=Searchmeta= http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=network+manager+openvpn+import+damn+itbtnG=Searchmeta= http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=fuck+network+manager+openvpn+importbtnG=Searchmeta= https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/287603 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/91615 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/295333 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/153294 http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2008-11/msg00958.html https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428362 http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=network+manager+openvpn+importbtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq= http://www.strongvpn.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=169 https://forum.perfect-privacy.com/showthread.php?t=298 https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-November/164955.html https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2008-November/164898.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=ubuntu+.ovpn+to+.confbtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq= http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-979085.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=ubuntu+openvpn+using+network+manager+failedbtnG=Searchmeta= https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient#Using%20NetworkManager https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-176979.html http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=798379 http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=network+manager+openvpn+howtobtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=0oq=network+manager+openvpn http://openvpn.net/archive/openvpn-users/2005-02/msg00213.html http://openvpn.net/archive/openvpn-users/2005-08/msg00190.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=WARNING%3A+No+server+certificate+verification+method+has+been+enabled.btnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq= https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/269071/+viewstatus https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager/+bug/280160 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager- openvpn/+bug/280160/+activity http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=script+failed%3A+external+program+exited+with+error+status%3A+1btnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq= http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=724037 http://keystoneit.wordpress.com/2007/11/08/ubuntu-network-manager-and- openvpn/ http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=openvpn+using+network+managerbtnG=Searchmeta= http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1024336.html http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-857994.html http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=enq=import+windows+.ovpn+to+ubuntubtnG=Google+Searchmeta=aq=foq= ** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #446335 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=446335 ** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #428362 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428362 --
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Agree with Alexander Gabriel. This is really bad ... -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Alexander Sack said above that getting these into main and then default could be difficult because they are not as actively developed as Network Manager itself, so we could end up stuck with an old NM because of the plugins not being caught up. The alternative would be if someone could step up to maintain the plugins packages and possibly hack them into shape so they work with new versions of Network Manager more readily...that could be quite helpful in moving things along. I don't have the skills to work on networking software, but if any of you...? I *think* it should be easier to get the command line VPN software moved to main and installed by default in the short term, so it'll at least be *easier* to get these plugins if you need to be connected to a VPN to apt-get the plugins to get on the VPN to apt-get the plugins to get on theyay recursion! -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
the theory is good, but in practice its not easy to hack those plugins together unless you did a certain amount of network-manager upstream development. The right way to move forward would be to get involved upstream with development of plugins and then once we see that we have all the know-how in ubuntu that allows us to do eventual fixes, we can consider to main those packages even though upstream has not committed to support them. That said, I think we should talk to upstream about making plugins top- level products. I will do that once the release dust has settled a bit. Feel free to remind me. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
epic fail -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Just a quick note: I agree that this bug should be fixed or if not, the dialogue fixed so that it's not totally confusing about why it's greyed out, but if this is changed before Jaunty release it will require a change to documentation. The bug is currently targetted to beta: if that's to be done, then it should be done sooner rather than later so that we can amend the documentation. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
dropping the milestone here; these packages have yet to go through an MIR process, they appear to be some distance from being installed by default, and this isn't a blocker for jaunty. ** Changed in: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu Jaunty) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix Target: ubuntu-9.04-beta = None ** Changed in: network-manager-pptp (Ubuntu Jaunty) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix Target: ubuntu-9.04-beta = None ** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Jaunty) Status: Triaged = Won't Fix Target: ubuntu-9.04-beta = None -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 06:47:57PM -, Shaun Crampton wrote: Surely if the VPN packages were added as dependencies to the ubuntu- desktop package (or network manager) then this would just work? Since Ubuntu own the above packages, why does it need upstream? if upstream doesnt treat it equally important as netowrk-manager it can happen that we cannot move NM forward because plugins arent fixed yet. only upstream can fix that. - Alexander -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
On Sat, Jan 31, 2009 at 12:57:01PM -, Tux wrote: Xamusk has a point here. What's the problem of installing the three vpn packages by default? This will give you vpn configuration at all times. This has to be fixed upstream by making the vpn plugins first tier products. in the past they lacked behind (as you might have noticed). - Alexander -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Surely if the VPN packages were added as dependencies to the ubuntu- desktop package (or network manager) then this would just work? Since Ubuntu own the above packages, why does it need upstream? -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Xamusk has a point here. What's the problem of installing the three vpn packages by default? This will give you vpn configuration at all times. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
** Changed in: network-manager-openvpn (Ubuntu Jaunty) Assignee: (unassigned) = Alexander Sack (asac) ** Changed in: network-manager-pptp (Ubuntu Jaunty) Assignee: (unassigned) = Alexander Sack (asac) ** Changed in: network-manager-vpnc (Ubuntu Jaunty) Assignee: (unassigned) = Alexander Sack (asac) -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Xamusk wrote: Actually, this bug has been reported since Hardy or before (I have seen it somewhere, but can't find now where) and obviously the Ubuntu team also forgot about it. It's specially important to ship VPN plugins not only because of the option that is there in the UI, but also because in many places one won't get internet access without a VPN, including many universities. That would of course prevent the plugin installation in the first place and would force one to seek another computer to download the packages, which is non-trivial for non-power-users. we are looking into this for jaunty. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Why can't this be solved like with ntp? Don't grey out the Add button. When this button is clicked all three vpn plugins are installed and you can configure you're vpn. In the current case users are displayed with a greyed out Add button which means VPN cannot be configured. When the Add button is not greyed out VPN can be configured. I am thinking from the users point of view, if it is there it should work in an easy way. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Actually, this bug has been reported since Hardy or before (I have seen it somewhere, but can't find now where) and obviously the Ubuntu team also forgot about it. It's specially important to ship VPN plugins not only because of the option that is there in the UI, but also because in many places one won't get internet access without a VPN, including many universities. That would of course prevent the plugin installation in the first place and would force one to seek another computer to download the packages, which is non-trivial for non-power-users. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
err, looks like the status is shut up you annoying Norwegian, we'll fix it in about 6 months time :) I was just trying to convince you to change the status :) Maybe if I take a bunch of cute kittens as hostage... Diver: Check http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com, here is what I did (not tested the iso yet): clean install (I did it in virtualbox, but that's optional) added deb http://www.remastersys.klikit-linux.com/repository remastersys/ to my /etc/apt/sources.list apt-get update apt-get install remastersys apt-get install network-manager-vpnc apt-get clean remastersys dist done! Tor Arne Pedersen at hitthebutton.org -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Is there is any tutorial on how one can remaster such iso? -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Tor, this bug is set to what status? Does that status indicate to you that this bug is not accepted as a bug? And no ... no option that changes UI is acceptable as a stable release update. Thanks for helping earlier in next cycle. Input is more than welcome and we love to hear ideas for better polishing ;). -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Hi again! Is there a way to get this issue pushed out to Intrepid what so ever? Who can decide that this is important enough to fix? The job itself is quite easy, so I guess it's just a matter of will and/or ability to see this from a users point of view. Actually, I guess it's just about as much work to fix this once, for all users world wide, as for each user to fix it herself. So fixing this once for all would save thousands of clicks, google searches, and Synaptic startups. All this energy combined could probably save a tree, or at least a small (it might be tiny) bush! If it can't be fixed the option to select VPN-connections should just go away. Having non-working options makes the operating system look unfinished. If I was just a user testing Ubuntu for the first time, I would leave Ubuntu and go back to Windows and Cisco VPN client. over an issue like that. Regular users don't use Synaptic or apt-get. I see Shaun here compares this with SAMBA, which I think is an valid comparishment. You can compare it to anything.. What if GIMP was in the menu, but greyed out, because it was not installed. In my opinion; if it's not installed, it shouldn't be in the menu. -- Tor Arne Pedersen torarne @ http://hitthebutton.org -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
it cant happen in intrepid anymore. simple reason: adding something to CD after release is technically impossible ;) ... also its not possible from a policy perspective. I cant imagine any issue that could trigger something like that ;). -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
I know adding software to a physically shipped CD is quite impossible, and that its politically hard/impossible to add something to the iso (but not technically impossible). As a last solution updates can be released, as several of those is - for every release, But to make that happen it has to qualify as a bug, which I think it does. Now I do not have any powers here what so ever, except I can nag and comment till my fingers bleed. :) I guess it's a lost case, but for next Ubuntu I will start testing isos and comment what I believe is bugs earlier. Now lets say someone agreed with me that this is a bug, then who could decide to put out the update? Maybe its politically easier to make the VPN-Connections choice go away (as an update, not for the CD, since that's harder)? I'm sorry for making all this fuzz, but I had a plan about recommending Ubuntu for my users with Intrepid, with the argument that it just works. Now I will not, because it does not just work :( I guess I could remaster an iso for my users, or they could just stick with Windows. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
Tor is right. I vote for b, but at least c would be needed. -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
I apologize for the bounce. I must say I do not understand why this cannot be fixed for Intrepid. Its an easy fix, just one line in the package, and it would be so much clearer for the users. I myself found the solution quite fast, but I see that many other users didn't. If it can be done simpler. Why not? -- Tor Arne -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
+1 -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 278153] Re: NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu
I think this should be considered a minor bug rather than a wishlist item. I think it's a bug because there is no information for the user to use to make the leap from VPN Add button is greyed out to I should install network-manager-vpnc. Making that leap requires the user to - guess that there's a missing package (rather than it being greyed out due to some other reason like config mismatch) -- I think you've lost 80% of users here - know how to install a package -- loses another 40% of the remaining users - take an inspired guess at the package name that is required or find this bug report -- loses 90% of users - install the package. As a comparison, when I go to the network share dialog, I get prompted in a friendly way (that doesn't go into scary technical detail) to install SAMBA. Imagine if you went into the share dialog as a non technical user and it was just greyed out with no warning. Haw would you make the leap to installing SAMBA? -- NetworkManager VPN plugins should be installed by default in ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278153 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
