[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
Dimming the screen turns the backlight down, and blanking turns the screen off, which happens a set time after the screen has been dimmed. I think I understand what you mean in that: Although the put display to sleep after is set to 1 min, even without keyboard or mouse activity it takes a minute or 2 longer. I think the problem seems to lie in the fact that the blanking timer counts AFTER the screen dims, which doesn't seem correct if the settings say Put display to sleep when inactive for:, so I see what you mean. Will ask around on this one as it is a little puzzling. ** Summary changed: - gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display + gnome-power-manager put display to sleep timer incorrect when CPU is being used ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- gnome-power-manager put display to sleep timer incorrect when CPU is being used https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
Would you say that this was fixed, it's a little hard to understand. Can anyone confirm if this is still an issue in Lucid, as I am not seeing this behaviour. Thank you. -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
This is fixed, and has been for some time. For dimming the screen, it uses purely IDLETIME (which comes from the X server and resets on mouse/keyboard events). For blanking the screen, it uses an internal timer which starts when the screen dims, and will blank the screen after a period elapses without any keyboard or mouse movements. For suspend, an internal timer is registered only when there is no keyboard or mouse movements AND the session is idle AND there are no suspend inhibits. When this timer expires, the machine will suspend if the CPU is not busy ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
Everything I reported is against Lucid, fully updated at the time of the report. Chris: can you please clear the terminology on dimming the screen and blanking the screen? BTW I still see the problem of the notebook LCD un-dimming/backlight going back on for no reason. -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
Simple test: 1) Unplugged external keyboard and mouse to avoid interference. 2) Set Put display to sleep when inactive for: to 1min. 3) Time for display to go off with some applications open: 2:34min. 4) Time for display to go off with all applications closed: 1:12min. So, the CPU or something related is clearly involved. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
It's hard to confirm/debug this issue because timeout isn't respected most of the time. -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
Ok, a simple experiment doesn't seem to confirm this bug exactly. 1) I set up the put display to sleep when inactive to 1 minute. 2) Leave the desktop idle with the programs (I'm using) open (firefox, pidgin, hgtk, gnome-terminal, etc): it takes 3:34min to turn off display. 3) Leave a cpu-intensive task running (make clean; make a project) and repeat step 2: it takes 3:47min to turn off display. (task took about 1:30min to complete) -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
BTW, the screensaver timeout is precise. In exactly 1min the screen starts to fade out. -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
(sorry for the spam) It seems the display is never turned of if there's a window with urgency state! (blinking on the taskbar) Screensaver kicks in normally. -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
This bug report is being marked Wishlist, as it not really a bug as such, but more of an idea to implement/change a feature/working of Ubuntu. Thank you. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Confirmed -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
Actually, I don't believe this is an issue any longer. Would you be able to see if this affects you in Lucid with a Live CD, as I have tested this and it seems ok. Thank you. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Wishlist = Undecided ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Could you try to reproduce the same with Ubuntu 9.04? Thanks in advance. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
On Apr 29, 2009, at 10:26 AM, Pedro Villavicencio wrote: Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue for you? Could you try to reproduce the same with Ubuntu 9.04? Thanks in advance. You tell me. It's not a symptom but a complaint about the documentation. Do the docs for g-p-m now give a precise definition of idle? -- David Abrahams BoostPro Computing http://boostpro.com -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
I think the problems are way deeper than lack of intuitiveness. Most or all of the problems described in http://www.shallowsky.com/linux/x-screen-blanking.html seem to still be present in Intrepid. Fundamentally, if there's a bug, it's that the g-p-m put display to sleep controls give the impression that they can be used to save power, but they just don't do anything. I'm filing a new bug on that issue and will reference it in a follow-up -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 289322] Re: gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display
https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screensaver/+bug/308815 -- gnome-power-manager needs different idleness definition for turning off display https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/289322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
