[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Belew
This page gives the supported modes for this Samsung TFT monitor:

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=610&page=5

Resolution  Freq Hor.   Freq Ver.   Pixel Clock Standard
640x350 31.5kHz 70Hz25.2MHz VGA
720x400 31.5kHz 70Hz28.3MHz VGA
640x480 31.5kHz 60Hz25.2MHz VGA
640x480 37.5kHz 75Hz31.5MHz VGA
640x480 35.0kHz 67Hz30.2MHz MAC
800x600 35.2kHz 56Hz36.0MHz SVGA
800x600 37.9kHz 60Hz40.0MHz SVGA
800x600 46.9kHz 75Hz49.5MHz SVGA
832x624 49.7kHz 75Hz57.3MHz MAC
1024x76848.4kHz 60Hz65.0MHz XGA
1024x76856.5kHz 70Hz75.0MHz XGA
1024x76860.0kHz 75Hz78.8MHz XGA


** Summary changed:

- No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8
+ No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 570s and ProSavage8

** Tags added: gbox samsung

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-21 Thread Tormod Volden
Can you please file a new bug with the "0 Hz" mode seen with the VESA
driver in comment #41?

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-21 Thread Peter Belew
When I connected without the KVM switch, I used no special cables or
adapters - the monitor's cable was plugged directly into the gBox
computer.

By the way I haven't recorded the output of the get-edid | parse-edid on
the gBox - I couldn't install those for Jaunty and the installed system
on that computer is Debian 5.0, and somehow the redirection for the
output to stdout (to a file) isn't working right under the Debian bash.
However it did work under intrepid on my Dell server (bug # 255561), but
I don't think the cable is long enough to reach that system.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-21 Thread Tormod Volden
Thanks, the two logs are practically identical, so maybe the kvm switch
is not at fault for the missing EDID info. Do you have any other special
arrangements, like socket adapters or long cables? This belongs to the
other bug though.

Anyway, it confirmed that my patch worked, since it came up with the
default sync ranges instead of failing to start. I'll have it reviewed
upstream, and leave this bug open until a fix gets into the Ubuntu
version.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Belew
I got the same resolutions with the monitor plugged back into the kvm
switch. Another log appended!

"MiniView" 2-port KVM

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log - Jaunty - using kvm switch now."
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21493740/Xorg.0.log

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-20 Thread Peter Belew
I just ran the 2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod3 driver, and it 
started into 800x600 mode (with allowable modes
 800x600, 640x480,  ). At the moment I have the monitor plugged directly 
into the gBox computer. I'll retry with the kvm switch.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.conf using the ...0ubuntu0tormod3 driver, no KVM"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21493100/Xorg.0.log

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-20 Thread Tormod Volden
BTW, please test as before using the kvm switch (which you didn't
mention here...). This particular bug only kicks in when there is no
EDID.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-19 Thread Tormod Volden
Please test the 2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod3 in my PPA. It
should fix the invalid (0 Hz) mode issue, so X should start with the
default sync ranges (using the default xorg.conf or none at all).

Not having EDID info, and thus not starting in the monitor's 1024x768
mode is a separate issue, I guess that's covered in bug 255561. Please
attach the read-edid testing results there.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-19 Thread Peter Belew
Thanks!

Now I'm going to revisit bug #255561 - which refers to the same Samsung
display but a different display card on  a Dell machine.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-19 Thread Tormod Volden
Thanks, that was successful! I think we are circling in on the issue.
This graphic card is a laptop chipset and usually has an LCD connected.
The driver is able to detect that the LCD is not there, but looks up the
sync range information from the panel driver anyway, which is just
nulls. This is added to the mode pool, which otherwise is empty since
EDID was not retrieved. Also, since the pool now is not empty, the
default range is not added.

I'll try to come up with a real fix for this.

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-savage (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Tormod Volden (tormodvolden)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-19 Thread Peter Belew
Log file for second case

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log for second case"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-19 Thread Peter Belew
1) I tried first editiing the original xorg.conf, changing 'vesa' to
'savage'.

2) Then I tried the above way: booting with "text",  but not specifying
safe mode.

In each case, a compatible screen mode was not  found, and the X server
failed to start.

Here, I have attached the log file for the first case.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log - first case"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21440872/Xorg.0.log3

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-19 Thread Tormod Volden
The simplest is if you boot with the "text" parameter, leave the
xorg.conf as it is (savage should be picked anyway) and install and run
the new driver.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Belew
I think the xorg.conf generated when the system started up in failsafe
mode specifies "vesa" just because the system was started in failsafe
mode. So I should have changed "vesa" to "savage".

Now my xorg.conf with all the screen parameters does specify "savage",
so the right driver would have been used.

So my next step will be to restart in safe text mode, producing the
default xorg.conf, edit that to specify "savage", reinstall the new
driver xserver-xorg-video-savage 2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-
0ubuntu0tormod2, and see what I get.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-18 Thread Peter Belew
This evening I repeated the experiment, this time with my old xorg.conf
file containing explicit driver settings, such as:

Section "Device"
Identifier  "S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]"
Driver  "savage"
BusID   "PCI:1:0:0"
Option  "ModeDebug" "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier  "Generic Monitor"
Option  "DPMS"
HorizSync   28-51
VertRefresh 43-60
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier  "Default Screen"
Device  "S3 Inc. VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]"
Monitor "Generic Monitor"
DefaultDepth16
SubSection "Display"
Depth   1
Modes   "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection

... and so on . (file sent earlier).

The Monitor Resolution Dialog shows the possible settings

   1024x768
   800x600
   640x480
   512x384
   400x300
   512x384

all (4:3), all 60 Hz.




** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log - for this comment"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21347370/Xorg.0.log2

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-18 Thread Tormod Volden
It can be seen in the log that X started with the "vesa" driver - the
one used by "failsafe mode", instead of the debug savage driver. I don't
know why, it worked fine with my own savage laptop. Well, I now included
the debug stuff in the new xserver-xorg-video-savage 2.2.1+git20081230
.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod2 in my PPA (for Jaunty), please try that one
instead of the one I attached.

The vesa driver falls back to reasonable default sync ranges, that's why
it comes up in 848x600.

Yes, the user switcher will be confused when using startx, nothing to
worry about.

What did you use for "trying to switch screen modes"? The "Screen
Resolution" preferences? Can you please attach the output from "xrandr
--verbose"? Maybe we need to file a vesa bug about that "0 Hz" you saw
here. Or the vesa information in the card bios is broken...

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-17 Thread Peter Belew
The date in the log file is in UTC - I hadn't set the time zone.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-17 Thread Peter Belew
I tried  the new debug package containing a screen driver. It was able to start 
X , arriving at a screen resolution of 848x600 at 61 Hz.
Once I started, the user switcher was aborted (as usual) I suspect that is due 
to my starting with 'startx' rather than a login.

Trying to switch screen modes, I found a selection of

  800x600 (4:3)61 Hz
  848x480 (16:9)  0 Hz ! <== clearly an error
  640x480 (4:3)60 Hz

I've attached a Xorg.0.log file.

No selection provided the monitor's max format of 1024 x 768.

I should try the xorg.conf file with a specified resolution range.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log running latest debug driver"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-17 Thread Tormod Volden
BTW, Guido's bug 212510 was a bit different, because he had EDID
transfer working.

You have two problems:
1) EDID can't be retrieved from the monitor.  The monitor should be fine (since 
Guido has the same) but there is something specific to your prosavage card that 
fails.

2) In lack of probed sync ranges, the server should pick reasonable
defaults. I have tested on my savage laptop by disabling DDC that the
default 31.50-37.90 kHz is chosen. So in your case there must be a
invalid value that keeps the default from being used. Please try the
attached (Jaunty) package, it adds some extra debug output to the log.

** Attachment added: "jaunty debug package"
   
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21286564/xserver-xorg-video-savage_2.2.1-3ubuntu0%7Edebug_i386.deb

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Tormod Volden
The EDID transfer (over DDC) fails so the driver can not retrieve the
sync ranges from the monitor. I can imagine that Hardy used to supply
some default sync ranges, which made it come up in 800x600. When you
specify the wider ranges in xorg.conf, 1024x768 is found to be possible.

I am not sure if the driver should also try to get the edid via VBE. Or
provide some conservative default ranges if everything else fails. From
what I understand from the code it should provide default hsync range of
31.50-37.90 kHz. So maybe some false information is detected with range
0-0.

Can you please install the "read-edid" package, and from the text console, run
 sudo get-edid | parse-edid > edid.txt 2>&1
and attach edid.txt here?

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Belew
This Xorg.0.log file was generated as requested - with no xorg.conf
file.

There was no crash - no screen was found, as the log file says, so
console 1 stayed in text mode.

Putting in the old xorg.conf (as in the previous posting) allows X to
start.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log - no xorg.conf"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Belew
Here's the xorg.conf file - we seem to have some problem getting the
right files! :)


** Attachment added: "xorg.conf - jaunty"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Tormod Volden
Great! But this is supposed to work out-of-the-box without any modified 
xorg.conf. Can you please try without any xorg.conf? It might be a challenge to 
fish out the log if the monitor goes off, but there are some ways:
On a virtual console (alt-F2 for instance, not the one where you run startx), 
mount your hard drive on /mnt, then run:
 sleep 60; cp /var/log/Xorg.0.log /mnt/var/tmp/ ; sync
Now you have 60 seconds to switch to the other screen (alt-F1) and run startx. 
Wait until the time has run out before rebooting. (Try the cp command without 
the sleep first just to make sure it can copy to the hard drive, before you set 
it up and run startx.)

BTW, the conf file in your last comment turned out to be the log
instead...

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Belew
Here is the latest xorg.conf that works with the 9.04 driver

The log file shows complaints about things like nonexistent fonts,
nothing serious.

The real remaining issue, in my opinion, is whether the installer will
recognize which driver to use, and set up the right screen mode, and
when that will happen. There may still have to be a manual X
configurator for when the automatic process fails.

** Attachment added: "xorg.conf - jaunty"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21270814/Xorg.0.log

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Belew
Here is the latest xorg.conf that works with the 9.04 driver

The log file shows complaints about things like nonexistent fonts,
nothing serious.

The real remaining issue, in my opinion, is whether the installer will
recognize which driver to use, and set up the right screen mode, and
when that will happen. There may still have to be a manual X
configurator for when the automatic process fails.

** Attachment added: "xorg.conf - jaunty"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21270670/xorg.conf.090116

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Belew
That was the wrong xorg.conf file.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Peter Belew
With that driver, I was able to startx ok!

The only glitch was that the user-switcher applet wouldn't start (or
kept stopping each time I clicked on the popup which announced that it
was failing).

I'll attach the log file here.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log - jaunty"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-16 Thread Tormod Volden
Yes, that is the right file.

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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Belew
The nearest file I find is

xserver-xorg-video-savage_2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod_i386.deb
 (96.6 KiB)


On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> The right version for Jaunty would be xserver-xorg-video-savage -
> 1:2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod . On the PPA page there is a
> column called "Series" which tells which versions are for Jaunty. I am
> sorry if this was not clear.
>
> The reason I am pestering you to get a ModeDebug log from Jaunty, is
> that we should report this upstream, and the first thing they ask for is
> that we test against a recent version, to avoid fixing things that
> already have been fixed. And I might take a closer look at the edid
> communication and mode selection code myself, but I would prefer to
> spend the time on as new code as possible...
>
> Your latest result is the same as in comment 13, right? Thanks for your
> persistence, I hope you can give Jaunty another try :)
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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Belew
I can't find the file. Could you send me the exact URL for the page it's
on?

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> The right version for Jaunty would be xserver-xorg-video-savage -
> 1:2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod . On the PPA page there is a
> column called "Series" which tells which versions are for Jaunty. I am
> sorry if this was not clear.
>
> The reason I am pestering you to get a ModeDebug log from Jaunty, is
> that we should report this upstream, and the first thing they ask for is
> that we test against a recent version, to avoid fixing things that
> already have been fixed. And I might take a closer look at the edid
> communication and mode selection code myself, but I would prefer to
> spend the time on as new code as possible...
>
> Your latest result is the same as in comment 13, right? Thanks for your
> persistence, I hope you can give Jaunty another try :)
>
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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Belew
Thanks! I'll download that tonight or tomorrow, and try it. I suspect
it will work. And I'll post my results.

It's good this is going upstream - this problem affects not only
Ubuntu and Debian, but Fedora as well, when I've tried recent live
CDs. Probably several other distros, including Gentoo. I experience it
on my Averatec laptop as well as this gBox P4 computer.

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> The right version for Jaunty would be xserver-xorg-video-savage -
> 1:2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod . On the PPA page there is a
> column called "Series" which tells which versions are for Jaunty. I am
> sorry if this was not clear.
>
> The reason I am pestering you to get a ModeDebug log from Jaunty, is
> that we should report this upstream, and the first thing they ask for is
> that we test against a recent version, to avoid fixing things that
> already have been fixed. And I might take a closer look at the edid
> communication and mode selection code myself, but I would prefer to
> spend the time on as new code as possible...
>
> Your latest result is the same as in comment 13, right? Thanks for your
> persistence, I hope you can give Jaunty another try :)
>
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-15 Thread Tormod Volden
The right version for Jaunty would be xserver-xorg-video-savage -
1:2.2.1+git20081230.aea0496f-0ubuntu0tormod . On the PPA page there is a
column called "Series" which tells which versions are for Jaunty. I am
sorry if this was not clear.

The reason I am pestering you to get a ModeDebug log from Jaunty, is
that we should report this upstream, and the first thing they ask for is
that we test against a recent version, to avoid fixing things that
already have been fixed. And I might take a closer look at the edid
communication and mode selection code myself, but I would prefer to
spend the time on as new code as possible...

Your latest result is the same as in comment 13, right? Thanks for your
persistence, I hope you can give Jaunty another try :)

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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-15 Thread Peter Belew
I went back to trying the 8.10 Intrepid live CD - using 'text' and
eliminating 'splash' in the boot line enables it to boot in text mode,
then using the old xorg.conf from 7.04 enables X to start.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> If you add "text" to the boot parameters (the kernel line, F6 in the CD
> boot menu), it will not start X. You can then log in on the console and
> install the driver like mentioned above. To start X an X session, type
> "startx".
>
> I don't think the driver is trying out different modes, it's just the
> monitor trying to match the signal from the driver. In principle the X
> server will ask the monitor about which modes it accepts, and tell the
> driver to use the "best" mode (usually the highest resolution or the one
> the monitor designates as "preferred"). If we can get the modedebug
> Xorg.0.log, we can see the details of this communication.
>
> But not being able to switch the console might indicate more issues than
> just a wrong mode. You see the usplash progress bar until X should
> start, right? Try also to remove the "splash" word in the boot
> parameters - sometimes usplash interferes with the console modes and
> corrupts the screen.
>
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Belew
Here is the log, trying to startx with the driver on the Jaunty alpha
disk.

As I said above, I was unable to install the driver under development:

   xserver-xorg-video-savage_2.2.1+git20081117.aea0496f-
0ubuntu0tormod_i386.deb

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log 14 Jan 2009"
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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Belew
I made some progress  - I was able to boot into text mode after
modifying the boot parameters - adding 'text' and removing the
'splash', and specifying the vesa mode.

At this point, I was able copy files to this system from another, using
scp.

I then copied the experimental driver and my old xorg.conf file to the
sytem, saved the initial xorg.conf to a backup, copied my xorg.conf
file to /etc/X11, and tried to install the driver. The install failed,
indicating that "xserver-xorg-core conficts with
xserver-xorg-video-4'. I'm not sure how to solve that problem!

Even though I knew the old driver wouldn't work, I tried running
startx.  As expected, it failed, but I will provide the Xorg.0.log
file that resulted.

Peter


On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> If you add "text" to the boot parameters (the kernel line, F6 in the CD
> boot menu), it will not start X. You can then log in on the console and
> install the driver like mentioned above. To start X an X session, type
> "startx".
>
> I don't think the driver is trying out different modes, it's just the
> monitor trying to match the signal from the driver. In principle the X
> server will ask the monitor about which modes it accepts, and tell the
> driver to use the "best" mode (usually the highest resolution or the one
> the monitor designates as "preferred"). If we can get the modedebug
> Xorg.0.log, we can see the details of this communication.
>
> But not being able to switch the console might indicate more issues than
> just a wrong mode. You see the usplash progress bar until X should
> start, right? Try also to remove the "splash" word in the boot
> parameters - sometimes usplash interferes with the console modes and
> corrupts the screen.
>
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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Belew
Oh, good. I was wondering whether there was a way to boot in text
mode. That will make it MUCH easier to proceed!

Also removing the splash progress bar might help, I'll see.

I'll be home in a couple of hours to try this! Then I can try either
the new driver, or my old xorg.conf file, or both. I expect to be able
to proceed Ok.

What the monitor appears to do during its attempts to work is to turn
on, display the warning box about mode incompatibility somewhere on
the screen, turn its 'on' LED off, and repeat the same thing at random
parts of the screen ... apparently forever in this case.

Thanks!

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> If you add "text" to the boot parameters (the kernel line, F6 in the CD
> boot menu), it will not start X. You can then log in on the console and
> install the driver like mentioned above. To start X an X session, type
> "startx".
>
> I don't think the driver is trying out different modes, it's just the
> monitor trying to match the signal from the driver. In principle the X
> server will ask the monitor about which modes it accepts, and tell the
> driver to use the "best" mode (usually the highest resolution or the one
> the monitor designates as "preferred"). If we can get the modedebug
> Xorg.0.log, we can see the details of this communication.
>
> But not being able to switch the console might indicate more issues than
> just a wrong mode. You see the usplash progress bar until X should
> start, right? Try also to remove the "splash" word in the boot
> parameters - sometimes usplash interferes with the console modes and
> corrupts the screen.
>
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-14 Thread Tormod Volden
If you add "text" to the boot parameters (the kernel line, F6 in the CD
boot menu), it will not start X. You can then log in on the console and
install the driver like mentioned above. To start X an X session, type
"startx".

I don't think the driver is trying out different modes, it's just the
monitor trying to match the signal from the driver. In principle the X
server will ask the monitor about which modes it accepts, and tell the
driver to use the "best" mode (usually the highest resolution or the one
the monitor designates as "preferred"). If we can get the modedebug
Xorg.0.log, we can see the details of this communication.

But not being able to switch the console might indicate more issues than
just a wrong mode. You see the usplash progress bar until X should
start, right? Try also to remove the "splash" word in the boot
parameters - sometimes usplash interferes with the console modes and
corrupts the screen.

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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-14 Thread Peter Belew
I just tried again to boot the 9.04 'jaunty' CD - I was unable to get
a console with ctrl-alt-F1, trying several times before and after the
screen started displaying the little windows saying the current screen
mode. Apparently the driver is trying a number of modes, and doesn't
get feedback from the monitor that any mode does work.

Now this did come up with a useable mode in earlier versions of
Ubuntu. And also Windows XP does come up with a working mode - it
boots fine (this is a dual-boot system).

It would be really nice if the boot process would come up with a
manual selection of screen modes, including 800x600 and 1024x768
resolutions and maybe some other parameters, when mode selection fails
after a while.

I tried the Jaunty disk on an Averatec laptop (model 3280) that has
similar problems. After some time it came up with a menu which allowed
me to get into a shell in a small window - I didn't proceed further
since the existing OS was a recent Debian, not Ubuntu, so I didn't
have the right xorg.conf file to try.

Another approach would be to create a driver CD with the experimental
driver - apparently one can preinstall such a driver before actually
booting the OS CD. Also being able to configure xorg.conf manually
would be desirable.

Peter

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> Is it not possible to switch to a console with ctrl-alt-F1?
>
> I was hoping you could get X running with the vesa driver, and then
> install the patched driver from the internet. If you have it already
> downloaded on the hard drive, that's even better, especially in the case
> vesa won't work. As long as you can log in on the console, that is.
>
> Then mount your hard drive with "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" (replace
> sda1 with the name of the right partition) and install the driver with
> "sudo dpkg -i /mnt/home/peter/Desktop/xserver-xorg-video-savage*" or
> whatever is the right path to the deb package.
>
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-12 Thread Tormod Volden
Is it not possible to switch to a console with ctrl-alt-F1?

I was hoping you could get X running with the vesa driver, and then
install the patched driver from the internet. If you have it already
downloaded on the hard drive, that's even better, especially in the case
vesa won't work. As long as you can log in on the console, that is.

Then mount your hard drive with "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" (replace
sda1 with the name of the right partition) and install the driver with
"sudo dpkg -i /mnt/home/peter/Desktop/xserver-xorg-video-savage*" or
whatever is the right path to the deb package.

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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Belew
I can't get the Jaunty CD to boot into X, even in 'safe' mode.

The Samsung Syncmaster display won't accept any of the modes the driver
tries.

Peter

On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Tormod Volden
 wrote:
> This certainly looks wrong in your original log file:
> (II) SAVAGE(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync value of 0.00 kHz
> (II) SAVAGE(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh value of 0.00 Hz
>
> It would be nice if you could test Jaunty and provide an Xorg.0.log.
> Unfortunately there are reports that the current savage driver in Jaunty
> is broken, but you can try a patched version from my PPA
> https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+archive
>
> If you test a Jaunty live CD, I suggest you boot in "failsafe graphics"
> mode (vesa driver) and then installs the patched driver, then change
> xorg.conf to use savage and restart X (log out and in again). If you now
> get a black screen, it should be possible to switch to a console with
> ctrl-alt-F1, log in and copy the Xorg.0.log, switch to vesa again in
> xorg.conf and restart X again with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart".
>
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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-11 Thread Peter Belew
So I should download the normal Jaunty live CD, boot in failsafe vesa
mode, also have your downloaded driver on my HD. How do I install your
driver from where it is?

Peter


On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Tormod Volden  wrote:
> Please also add
>  Option "ModeDebug" "true"
> to the Device section of your xorg.conf.
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-11 Thread Tormod Volden
Please also add
 Option "ModeDebug" "true"
to the Device section of your xorg.conf.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2009-01-11 Thread Tormod Volden
This certainly looks wrong in your original log file:
(II) SAVAGE(0): Configured Monitor: Using hsync value of 0.00 kHz
(II) SAVAGE(0): Configured Monitor: Using vrefresh value of 0.00 Hz

It would be nice if you could test Jaunty and provide an Xorg.0.log.
Unfortunately there are reports that the current savage driver in Jaunty
is broken, but you can try a patched version from my PPA
https://launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+archive

If you test a Jaunty live CD, I suggest you boot in "failsafe graphics"
mode (vesa driver) and then installs the patched driver, then change
xorg.conf to use savage and restart X (log out and in again). If you now
get a black screen, it should be possible to switch to a console with
ctrl-alt-F1, log in and copy the Xorg.0.log, switch to vesa again in
xorg.conf and restart X again with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart".

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-13 Thread Peter Belew
I finally succeeded in getting a log file from an attempt to boot the
8.10 disk. Also I was able to get the screen to start in a 1024x768
mode.

I was able to get into a console after identification of the display
failed. At that point, I was able to save the Xorg.0.log file, as
before. it is already attached nearer the top of this report, showing a
failure to identify the screen hardware.

At that point xorg.conf was empty. I was then able to copy in the 7.04
xorg.conf file and run 'startx' to start the screen.

Eventually the screen initialized at 1024x768 resolution, and the usual
top and bottom panels and default screen background appeared. From the
log file:

(--) SAVAGE(0): Chose mode 117 at 60Hz.
(II) SAVAGE(0): virtualX:1024,virtualY:768

I have attached the Xorg.0.log file from after the screen started.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log after copying in 7.04 xorg.conf and running 
startx"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-13 Thread Peter Belew
I also have the xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files from Hardy 8.04.1
attached above.

I'll make another attempt to  get the files from the failed attempts to
boot or to start installing 8.10.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-13 Thread Peter Belew
I sent the 8.04 Feisty xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log files on 2008-11-08 -
see above.

I can send hardy 8.04 files if that will help - that's a case where I
had to overwrite the xorg.conf with the Feisty version.

I'll see what I can do regarding 8.10 files. I didn't get very far into
the live boot or install on this system.

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-13 Thread jacobS
Peter send the xorg.conf generated at 7.04 via attach mail, when boot at
800 x 600 download the xorg.conf and overwrite this in 8.10, This
impossible?

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-08 Thread Peter Belew
This is marked as 'incomplete'. What is needed?

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-08 Thread Peter Belew
xorg.conf file from alternate install of hardy 8.04.1

The maximum screen resolution with this file was 800x600.

I was able to get 1024x768 resolution by replacing this with the
xorg.conf from Feisty 7.04 (see above).

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-08 Thread Peter Belew
Here is an Xorg.0.log file generated from installing hardy on the same
system, using the alternate CD.

An attempt to boot from the live CD (desktop CD) failed. I wasn't able
to save the log file from that failed attempt.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log from alternate install of hardy 8.04.1"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-08 Thread Peter Belew
Here is the xorg.conf file generated by booting feisty as a live CD.
This file may be used to solve resolution problems under Hardy as well.

** Attachment added: "xorg.conf on feisty"
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-08 Thread Peter Belew
Here is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from booting Feisty 7.04. The display
was initialized properly in 1024x768 resolution, the maximum supported
byt the Samsung display.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log  - feisty"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19496191/Xorg.0.log

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-07 Thread Peter Belew
Here is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log

In this case, I went through the motions of an actual install, rather
than a live boot. The boot failed, without installing anything, but
ended up in a shell, so that I could copy the log file to the hard disk.

A quick glance at the file tells me there is useful information here
about the failure to find an appropriate screen mode.

** Attachment added: "Xorg.0.log from attempt to install intrepid on gBox 
computer"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19476898/Xorg.0.log

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Re: [Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-07 Thread Peter Belew
That would be from hardy, since I can't boot intrepid and get at a
shell.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:26 AM, Bryce Harrington
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi peterbe,
>
>
> Thanks for including the attached files.  Could you also include your 
> /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
>
>
> ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-savage (Ubuntu)
>   Status: New => Incomplete
>
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> No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8
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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-07 Thread Bryce Harrington
Hi peterbe,


Thanks for including the attached files.  Could you also include your 
/var/log/Xorg.0.log?


** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-savage (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 294899] Re: No signal with Samsung SyncMaster 750s and ProSavage8

2008-11-06 Thread Peter Belew

** Attachment added: "This is the xorg.conf file which works under hardy, 
generated by booting a 7.04 CD.  lspci shows VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. 
VT8375 [ProSavage8 KM266/KL266]"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19441069/xorg.conf

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