[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: telepathy-gabble Status: Confirmed => Unknown ** Bug watch added: gitlab.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-gabble/issues #9 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-gabble/issues/9 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: telepathy-idle Status: Confirmed => Unknown ** Bug watch added: gitlab.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-idle/issues #1 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-idle/issues/1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: telepathy-haze Status: Confirmed => Unknown ** Bug watch added: gitlab.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-haze/issues #16 https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/telepathy/telepathy-haze/issues/16 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Robert (robertsms) I'm afraid I haven't really explored other ways of doing this. Anyone else? Otherwise you will probably want to look at the redsocks documentation. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I don't have this problem anymore since I am not forced to use proxy now. Sorry. I used to use pidgin as a work around. Cheers 18 paź 2013 05:36 robertsms robert...@gmail.com napisał(a): @Michael (michaeljt) I have met the same problem for a long time. Could you give me a alternative solution please? I do not quite understand how to setup the tsocks or iptables to solve the problem. Thank you! -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in empathy package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in empathy source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in empathy package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Hello, Empathy works fine for me with a proxy when I setup only HTTP and HTTPS proxy settings of the ubuntu network proxy. On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Michal 304...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I don't have this problem anymore since I am not forced to use proxy now. Sorry. I used to use pidgin as a work around. Cheers 18 paź 2013 05:36 robertsms robert...@gmail.com napisał(a): @Michael (michaeljt) I have met the same problem for a long time. Could you give me a alternative solution please? I do not quite understand how to setup the tsocks or iptables to solve the problem. Thank you! -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in empathy package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in empathy source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in empathy package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Invalid Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Invalid Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Invalid Status in “empathy” package in Unity Linux: Invalid Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Michael (michaeljt) I have met the same problem for a long time. Could you give me a alternative solution please? I do not quite understand how to setup the tsocks or iptables to solve the problem. Thank you! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
People affected by this might want to look at using redsocks and iptables to set up a transparent system proxy configuration. I have done that and am more and more convinced that that is the way to go, rather than making individual applications do proxy support. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Wow that linkedIn spam is nasty ... sneaks in like it's from LinkedIn. Anyhow situation appears to be that Empathy state they cannot run in the environment offered by Ubuntu, other IM clients can run. The bug should move to Ubuntu distro ... you are using an IM client which reports it's not supported in the given environment ..so either Ubuntu are willing to fix the environment or they must choose a client which will work? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Recently installed 12.04 LTS and I see this issue. When I don't use a proxy at home, I can connect to gtalk and yahoo but the same configuration doesn't work when using a proxy at work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Just Installed 11.10 and it's STILL using empathy ... and it STILL doesn't work ... this must be 3 years since this 1st happened. At the very least Ubuntu could switch back to Pidgin , which does work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Nice little workaround for IRC, and hence for idle (at least it does the job at a pinch): http://wiki.tcl.tk/3125 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Felipe: (1) may I suggest you to find the correct upstream bugs and update the link here? Or open upstream bugs as needed; (2) may I also suggest you to carry your reasoning upstream? (3) which bug is it you state is closed? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
According to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602824 the work should be on the lower layers. I'm happy to open tasks against the telepathy projects or any others though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
C de-Avillez: First of all, let's remember that you don't have to fix all the CM's to fix this issue. Ubuntu can fix this *today*, regardless of the status of the telepathy CM's (1) This is pointless, because a) it's not needed, and b) each CM has different issues regarding proxy support. * telepathy-haze This works fine. * telepathy-butterfly It uses papyon, which looks like it's going to be discontinued. It has basic proxy support, but it's not done through GIO, as it probably should be. * telepathy-gabble Seems to have proxy support through GIO, but there are issues. * telepathy-idle No proxy support on the horizon. * telepathy-rakia No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. * telepathy-sunshine No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Even if you fix all these issues in the connection-managers, this *still* doesn't solve the problem that some people need proxy configuration in a per-proxy way, as explained upstream bug #16034, you would need modifications both in the connection managers, *AND* Empathy. (2) I have already done that: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.telepathy/4103 Some responses I've heard from upstream developers, are Nobody uses proxies, Nobody uses HTTP connect, Sysadmins probably never allow HTTP connect for non 443 ports, If you need special proxies for some accounts, write your own PAC file. And similar. The fact of the matter is that they have no urgency to fix this, or even acknowledge the problems. In the meantime, people are completely unable to use Empathy, and are forced to use Pidgin (or use telepathy-haze by removing all the other CM's Ubuntu ships by default). Again, Ubuntu could fix this *today*, it doesn't have to wait for upstream to acknowledge this is an issue. (3) I didn't get that. Pedro Villavicencio: That's only if you use global settings, and as I argued in the response for (1); that's not enough. Upstream bug bug #22065 complains about that, and upstream bug #16034 describes the solution, which requires modifications to Empathy. So, I repeat, do you want to fix this or not? Because you can fix it right now. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011 à 15:55 +, Felipe Contreras a écrit : * telepathy-haze This works fine. Stop claiming that switching to Haze is the solution of all the world's problems. Haze can be an option for protocols not having a proper CM but it would be completely stupid to switch to it for XMPP: no call, no file transfer, no muc, no desktop sharing... * telepathy-butterfly It uses papyon, which looks like it's going to be discontinued. It has basic proxy support, but it's not done through GIO, as it probably should be. I agree that Haze could be used. Actually we're going to switch to Haze for MSN accounts in 3.4 as butterfly (and the other Python CMs) are not properly maintained and lake all the recent Telepathy APIs. * telepathy-gabble Seems to have proxy support through GIO, but there are issues. Which issues exactly? Are there in Gabble? in GIO? * telepathy-idle No proxy support on the horizon. Idle has switched to GIO (fdo #37145) so SHOULD be at the same state as Gabble. * telepathy-rakia No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Please feel free to open one. * telepathy-sunshine No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Same as Butterfly. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Guillaume Desmottes gdesm...@gnome.org wrote: Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011 à 15:55 +, Felipe Contreras a écrit : * telepathy-haze This works fine. Stop claiming that switching to Haze is the solution of all the world's problems. Haze can be an option for protocols not having a proper CM but it would be completely stupid to switch to it for XMPP: no call, no file transfer, no muc, no desktop sharing... Being able to log in is more important than anything else. * telepathy-butterfly It uses papyon, which looks like it's going to be discontinued. It has basic proxy support, but it's not done through GIO, as it probably should be. I agree that Haze could be used. Actually we're going to switch to Haze for MSN accounts in 3.4 as butterfly (and the other Python CMs) are not properly maintained and lake all the recent Telepathy APIs. Makes sense. * telepathy-gabble Seems to have proxy support through GIO, but there are issues. Which issues exactly? Are there in Gabble? in GIO? All the issues related to libproxy for starters, like not being able to get a popper configuration with GNOME 2, and thus all the DE's that already rely on those GConf settings, like Xfce. And all the issues related to GNOME 3 configuration, like the fact that all authentication is missing. Plus, in my machine, even with GNOME 3's control center it's confusing what should be the settings, and even when I put exactly the right settings, it takes a long long time to log in. * telepathy-idle No proxy support on the horizon. Idle has switched to GIO (fdo #37145) so SHOULD be at the same state as Gabble. Yes, many things should be in certain way *in theory*, but then why is fdo #12376 still open? Because nobody has actually tried *in practice*. Here, let me try... Nope... doesn't work. What a surprise. * telepathy-rakia No proxy support on the horizon. Or bug report about it. Please feel free to open one. Why would I do that? As I stated multiple times, this is not *needed* to solve the issue at hand. You can disagree all you want with me, but the fact of the matter is that after more than 3 years this bug has existed, the issue remains there, and users are *completely* prevented to use Empathy. This is the problem going the GNOME way of trying to have everything perfectly. When is that going to happen? 2020? -- Felipe Contreras -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
But there is nothing to be done for Empathy itself here -- so it is Invalid as a bug task. This is not true. The upstream support would just use the GNOME proxy settings, and it would not be possible to configure the proxy per- account, for that you would still need changes in Empathy. If you assume this is only to read the system settings, then yes, this is not a bug in Empathy, it has to be implemented in all the telepathy connection managers but the list above (haze, gabble, and idle) is not nearly complete. Plus, none of those bugs have any priority, severity, or even any comment there. At this point it would be useful to do what Fedora does, have keep this bug open as a metabug, or tracking bug, and when all the telepathy CM's are fixed, then this is closed. Moreover, the upstream tracking bugs are wrong. Bug #22065 is not to use system proxy settings in telepathy-haze, in fact, it's for exactly the opposite; have an option to *disable* the proxy for this particular account, for which actually, you would need changes in Empathty. In fact, if you read the comments above in this bug report, you would see that people confirm that telepathy-haze is actually the only one that works. You could fix this bug *today* if you wanted to, by just distributing telepathy-haze, and not the other connection managers. So there's something Ubuntu can do to fix this, but you just don't want to. Bug #16034 has nothing to do with system proxy settings, which supposedly telepathy-gabble already supports (although not that smoothly). It is about user/password authentication to the proxy. Interestingly enough if you read comment #2, a telepathy developer suggests as an option to modify Empathy to allow configuring the proxy settings in a *per account* way: (b) Empathy gains http-proxy-server, http-proxy-port, http-proxy- username and http-proxy-password parameters in the Advanced area of account config Bug #12376 is correct, but as you can see, there's nothing going on over there. So, do you want to fix this or not? If you want to fix this, then closing the bug is like shuffling it under the carpet... It won't achieve anything. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
And still not an Empathy issue. There is nothing to be done on Empathy, fixes have to be written to the various protocol handlers. Invalidating (again) the Empathy task. ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Uh, I don't know what a protocol handler is, nor I care were fixes have to be written. As a user, what is broken is Empathy. It has a bug: I have a proxy, Empathy does not work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
And still not an Empathy issue. There is nothing to be done on Empathy @hggdh2: With all due respect, I cannot agree with you. Consider this (real!) scenario: In my company, I use IM multi protocol client on Ubuntu. I need to have 4 accounts: 1. local (jabber) -- local intranet server1 [must use DIRECT http, must NOT use proxy] 2. gtalk (jabber) -- internet via http proxy [must use http via PROXY] 3. exchange (sipe) -- local intranet server2 [must use directly http, must NOT use proxy] 4. one more (gg) -- internet via http proxy [must use http via PROXY] Obviously, this can be done only if IM client let's me to setup http_proxy per account. Empathy does not. It is missing this feature. This is the reason, why I (and a lot of my colleagues in50 000+ employees company) are using Pidgin instead of Empathy which is the default Ubuntu IM client. Of course not all of employees are using Ubuntu, but all of them are potentially affected by this bug. Only in this one company. There are several others companies, campuses etc in similar situation. Please also note, that many popular applications have builtin proxy settings (Firefox, Pidgin, ...). It's not a critical feature for IM, but for multi communicator it's important. Kind Regards, Michal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Michal: there is a disconnect here: technically -- which where the bug tasks come in -- this is not an Empathy issue: Empathy does not do network. Network activities are performed by the so-called Connection Managers (which I called protocol handlers), usually the telepathy-whatever modules. Support for proxy must be added in these modules, not on Empathy. This may be -- or not -- a major undertaking; I do not know. But, no matter what, the best place to ask for it is upstream (where the authors reside). For each of the current valid tasks on this bug, there is a link to the upstream bug. I had a quick look at them, and it seems pretty much nothing has been done by the developers regarding proxy usage. Comments there would probably help more than here. And I do agree that lacking proxy support is not good. But this is a bug, a technical report of an error/issue. No matter what you (or jorge above) think, we have to have the correct modules listed. Empathy (overall) suffers with the lack of proxy support. But there is nothing to be done for Empathy itself here -- so it is Invalid as a bug task. On the other hand, telepathy-gabble, telepathy-haze, and telepathy-idle are correctly set. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@hggdh2: Thank you for the clarification. Have a good day. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
still the same situation with Empathy 3.2.0.1 and Ubuntu 11.10 ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Not working here Empathy 3.2.0.1 Ubuntu 11.10 !!! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Wow. 3 and half years! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Hello, I've just reconfirmed this bug exists with several Telepathy ?backends? when attempting to use a SOCKS proxy... an HTTP connect proxy is configured to forward connections through the available socks proxy. I've switched to Pidgin and this is confirmed to work, however it's in no way a solution to any problem... at best it's a cheap work around. Here is one solution... Place these into /etc/rc.local and run it: daemon -n socat5223 -- socat -ly TCP-LISTEN:5223,fork,reuseaddr SOCKS4A:127.0.0.1:talk.google.com:5223,socksport=9050 daemon -n socat5222 -- socat -ly TCP-LISTEN:5222,fork,reuseaddr OPENSSL:127.0.0.1:5223,verify=0 You'll need both the daemon and socat packages installed. Then one should be able to set localhost as the server to connect to. socat can also make use of HTTP connect proxies, I believe. Why you wouldn't put this into your application is beyond me, it's a little bit of shell scripting and it would close the bug... you could even make use of UNIX domain sockets. It's only politics that keeps this bug open, ppls own agendas getting in the way of implementing options/features users are requesting. Why would an application developer care about the available features on an HTTP proxy they would likely never use? The use should be able to configure and use proxies, don't know why this is so difficult a concept to understand. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
This is not a unity specific issue. This is Ubuntu in general. Invalidating that. ** Changed in: empathy (Unity Linux) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
As an update to everyone interested. There are tons of limitations as to getting this bug complete. As of right now proxy works for Gabble (mind glib-networking has to be installed), there is some interest in porting idle to GIO which may allow proxying to work. For a lot of other connection managers this either isn't possible or severely limited. haze is a libpurple implementation, and telepathy has no control over that. Plus haze can't allow popups for password questions and therefore even if libpurple supported it, it would have severe limitations. This is not an empathy bug but a bug with the connection manager themselves, and therefore I'm closing all empathy instances. ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Confirmed = Invalid ** Changed in: empathy Importance: High = Undecided ** Changed in: empathy Status: Unknown = New ** Changed in: empathy Remote watch: GNOME Bug Tracker #492076 = None ** Changed in: empathy Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Brian No, proxy support works on gabble only for certain kinds of configurations. For example a global HTTP proxy doesn't work. See comment #118. haze is *not* a libpurple implementation, and telepathy *does have* control over that. And what do you mean can't allow popups for password questions? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Components haze is an implementation of libpurple, which telepathy does NOT have control over. Libpurple will allow for password prompts on proxies, haze can not use these (idk why, this is all info from uptream) Also , gabble I have been told just works. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
No, telepathy-haze is just another Telepathy Connection Manager. Read the text you just shared: Haze: A connection manager based on Pidgin's libpurple, supporting all protocols in Pidgin (AIM, ICQ, Yahoo, MSN, etc) at a basic level, but already very usable. libpurple uses GConf's system proxy settings, which contain authentication. And you have been told wrong, here's a screenshot with the latest gabble not working (latest glib, with glib-networking, with libproxy support): http://people.freedesktop.org/~felipec/gabble-proxy.png See? Works fine with libproxy-simple though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I'm surprised that in 2011 such bug still exists ???!!! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I would like to repeat my question to Nicolas or anyone else qualified to answer (i.e. with whatever committing privileges are required). What would be needed to fix this, and would it be possible with a drive-by contribution amount of work? I definitely can't promise anything for time reasons, but I would at least like to take a look at what is involved if I had a bit of confidence that patches I might write would get somewhere. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = In Progress -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I already explained many times how to fix this *right now* (in fact more than one year ago). See comment #76. The fact of the matter is that Ubuntu people don't care, otherwise they would have marked it as critical as I suggested in comment #79. It will be on the next release cycle somebody said as an excuse. And here we are a year later. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Ahem, Felipe, do you have commit rights, either upstream or down? That doesn't relate to the quality of what you are saying, but in this situation having a committer to back your changes is as important as their actual quality. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Commit rights are irrelevant. Nobody has commit rights in the Linux kernel except Linus. Does that mean everybody else's opinion don't matter. See comment #92, #93 and #94; the fix is known to work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Perhaps I am misunderstanding something, but as a telepathy-idle user is that relevant to me? In a pinch I will go back to pidgin of course, but I would prefer a proper fix in empathy. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Michael telpathy-haze has support for IRC too. AIM, facebook, gadugadu, groupwise, IRC, ICQ, jabber, local XMPP, MSN, QQ, sametime, sipe, yahoo, zephyr, mxit, and sip; IOW what libpurple (Pidgin) supports. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Also affects: empathy (Unity Linux) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Nicolas - what is the current state for telepathy-idle? Is this working in any upstream version or not done yet at all? And if not, what is actually needed? How much do the GIO APIs differ from the BSD socket ones? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: telepathy-haze Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@DiagonalArg: The system proxy setings should support for different kind of proxies. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@papukaija But that's the problem; GNOME guys don't want to implement HTTP Connect in GIO, and libproxy guys interpret gnome-network- properties wrongly. So in reality HTTP Connect is not supported at all, nor is it planned to any time soon. But that's ok according to the developers, because less than 1% use it, according to comment #117. Anyway, I've created my own libproxy-simple, which acts like libproxy, but actually works. Or you could just use telepathy-haze as I've proposed and many people have said here that it Just Works. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I opened bug #715821 about syncing glib-networking from Debian. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
In my company and in my university we use HTTP proxy. On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Guillaume Desmottes gdesm...@gnome.orgwrote: I opened bug #715821 about syncing glib-networking from Debian. -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Unknown Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Tomas, Same here. I suggest you ask you colleagues at work and campus to vote for this bug. The more votes the more chances to get it fixed. Regards, Michal 2011/2/9 Tomas Scally 304...@bugs.launchpad.net In my company and in my university we use HTTP proxy. On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Guillaume Desmottes gdesm...@gnome.orgwrote: I opened bug #715821 about syncing glib-networking from Debian. -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Unknown Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Unknown Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support they need? (socks, http, etc.) In my company we use HTTP proxy. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support they need? (socks, http, etc.) I need socks. As with pidgin, I need individual settings for each account. Thanks. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: telepathy-idle Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
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[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
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[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: telepathy-gabble Importance: Medium = Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: telepathy-haze Importance: Medium = Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Small update. Some Telepathy CM's such as gabble (XMPP) and butterfly (MSN) now have some proxy support, however, they depend on libproxy doing the right thing (which it usually doesn't). So essentially they still don't work. A more generic solution should be implemented in GLib, however, they are reluctant to provide HTTP Connect support because it's unsafe (no idea what they are smoking). So, as usual with anything GLib, there's progress, but it will take a long long time before it actually works. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Wocky implements HTTP proxy, so it should work fine with recent Gabble if libproxy is properly configured. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Guilliame Right, *if* you have at least GLib 2.26, and *if* you have the corresponding glib-networking (which is not packaged in Ubuntu), and *if* you have libproxy 0.4.6 (0.3.1 in Ubuntu), and *if* you have the exact right configuration in GConf (not Use the same proxy for all protocols), and *if* you have at least telepathy-gabble 0.10.0 (latest Ubuntu does have it); sure, it would work. Currently that's not the case, and I doubt it would be on the next Ubuntu release. However, that's only for XMPP, for other protocols, like MSN, it wouldn't work, more changes are needed in libproxy for that. So no, I wouldn't hold my breath until this bug is fixed. Unless of course all protocols are supported through libpurple (through telepathy-haze), which people here have confirmed. In this case, this bug would be fixed *today*. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
When I first started working on proxy in Telepathy there was two ways this could be fixed. The quick way would have been to implement it in every single network oriented application. To do so you just have to find another project that match licence, copy paste some code do basic testing and your done. But the fact is that this method had never worked. The big portrait is that every software interpret the configuration differently (mainly due to ambiguities in the configuration) or has incomplete implementation. I was bored of that, so I took the long road, that one that can benefit all and eventually ensure that network oriented application don't have to care about proxy since it will just work. This road is to get proxy support to be handled by libraries like GIO and libproxy. In contrast to what Felipe says, having to update things into distribution to get things to work is completely normal, and takes time. We can't implement features in already existing versions and we can't maintain hundreds of different branches of every projects so the distro does not have to update. Getting this in the next Ubuntu release has nothing to do about doubt, it's about priority. If 100% of the targeted users where using HTTP Connect proxy, all this would be updated much faster. But the reality is that HTTP Connect users represent probably less then 1% of the users, I don't think it's enough people to justified the risk and the energy required to get those new features in so quickly. What you should do instead if you have the knowledge and time is to test those things, discuss and report precise bugs and create testimonial for distro that says it's working. Finally, Telepathy Butterfly (the MSN backend) has full HTTP/HTTP Connect/SOCKS support. I don't know where Felipe got that it does not work for MSN because it works very well. What Felipe is confusing in his comment is the support for proxy in Telepathy against bugs in the libproxy implementation. Yes HTTP Connect is considered an unsafe choice in libproxy. HTTP Connect server (the commercial ones) has a large reputation of implementing filters and port blocking that usually reduces your connectivity. We are working hard to make it possible to trigger this choice in libproxy without the risk of reducing your connectivity, but we have hit an internal design issue that needs more time. Felipe also often ignore the miss-adapted configuration tool we have in Gnome. This tool, based on old Netscape Navigator configuration, is undocumented and present ambiguities. On this, some people also have long term solution like a new storage for GSettings/GConf or even an integration with software like NetworkManager or ConnMan. But let me reassure you that as soon as the previously mentioned bug in libproxy is fixed, I'm also going forward with shorter term fixes that should make it work better. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@Nicolas But the fact is that this method had never worked. Grep for pidgin in this thread. That method works. In fact, it's the only one that does. That's why this bug exists and people are annoyed; the default IM client used to work (Pidgin), now it doesn't (Empathy). What I would have done is write something that works, like your code for socks and http proxies, and make it a library, or just copy it inside the most popular CM's (gabble and butterfly) with a git submodule. This way you wouldn't be relying on GLib slowness/stubbornness. Once GLib has proper proxy support, you switch. Problem solved. The next problem is configurability. Instead of relying _completely_ on libproxy, I would allow the option to override the proxy configuration with a CM property, this way even if libproxy is buggy (which it is), the user would not be stuck. I would have also added the option to read directly from GConf, and let the user be able to choose this option. so I took the long road With my proposal you have the benefit of both. When libproxy/GIO are truly ready, you can switch easily, and everyone benefits. In the meantime, things would work, and this bug would be solved. having to update things into distribution to get things to work is completely normal Normal for GNOME people. Other people would rather have something working _right now_, even it's not exactly the mode ideal, generic, extensible, and permanent way of doing things. Hint: Pidgin, XChat, Firefox, Ekiga, etc. But the reality is that HTTP Connect users represent probably less then 1% of the users Ha! I would like to see proof of that. How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support they need? (socks, http, etc.) It's important because Nicolas is assuming _everyone_ is using SOCKS, and that is reflected on how libproxy interprets GNOME network configuration. What Felipe is confusing in his comment is the support for proxy in Telepathy against bugs in the libproxy implementation. Take a look at the title of this bug: use *system* proxy settings. This means GConf, and this means precisely libproxy. If libproxy returns socks, when the user is expecting http (which it does), then the user wouldn't be able to connect, and this bug remains valid. We are working hard to make it possible to trigger this choice in libproxy without the risk of reducing your connectivity What you don't seem to understand is that the connectivity is *zero*, you cannot reduce that, even if you try. Note that libproxy is not used by anything in Unbuntu, so it doesn't matter what you do there, it would not affect anyone negatively. The problem is this GNOME mentality, that everything must be perfect since day 0, and therefore it's OK if things don't work at all before that, which is the current situation. Felipe also often ignore the miss-adapted configuration tool we have in Gnome. Works in Pidgin. Now, I would not like to give the impression that everything is horrible. There is great progress thanks to the efforts of many people, specially Nicolas; we are getting closer and closer to the generic solution, and I certainly would like to contribute to these efforts, when time allows. However, I would like something that works _right now_, and I think everyone here agrees. So, for me, I'm looking into various solutions that are not perfect but should get the job done (any of them): a) By default install only telepathy-haze (no gabble, idle, butterfly, etc.) b) Update to libproxy 0.4.6 and apply a patch so it's possible to return both http and socks for _all_ protocols (msn, xmpp, irc, etc.) I don't think any other option has any chance of making it for the next Ubuntu release. Also, I would like to correct my previous statement that MSN would not work. It does seem that the latest telepathy-butterfly has the option to override whatever libproxy is passing, so it's possible to get it working. However, that would not resolve this bug. Cheers. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support they need? (socks, http, etc.) Personally, my university (Tec Monterrey), and the companies I've worked for (Texas Instruments, and Nokia), they all have used an HTTP proxy for everything (HTTP Connect). And all the proxy bugs I've had in my projects (msn-pecan) have been of HTTP proxies. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
In my company (~80 000 employees) we are also forces users to use http proxy. I's a standard in corporations and university campuses. I also think i's much more than 1% of people affected by this bug. 2010/12/23 Felipe Contreras felipe.contre...@gmail.com How about people following this bug mention what type of proxy support they need? (socks, http, etc.) Personally, my university (Tec Monterrey), and the companies I've worked for (Texas Instruments, and Nokia), they all have used an HTTP proxy for everything (HTTP Connect). And all the proxy bugs I've had in my projects (msn-pecan) have been of HTTP proxies. -- You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Unknown Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I believe that linux is a great os, but if we can't use it for years Is so that difficult to solve this bug? I am on 10.10 and the bug isn't already solved. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 Title: Does not use system proxy settings -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I would also strongly vote for the fix of this bug. TIA -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Bug exists in Ubuntu 10.10 Please fix this bug. Its annoying that ubuntu is shipping applications these days with no proxy support. I have been searching ways to run empathy and gwibber behind proxy for last 2 days. Its frustrating. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Have you tried the work around: sudo apt-get remove telepathy-gabble telepathy-butterfly? (therefore forcing apps to use telepathy-haze) 2010/10/12 Harsh Kumar 304...@bugs.launchpad.net Bug exists in Ubuntu 10.10 Please fix this bug. Its annoying that ubuntu is shipping applications these days with no proxy support. I have been searching ways to run empathy and gwibber behind proxy for last 2 days. Its frustrating. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Unknown Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Confirmed Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscribe -- Pablo A. Iturralde -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Thank you Pablo. I got google talk working now, but I can't find any option to connect to facebook chat. Thanks again. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Under telepathy-haze, to connect to facebook use jabber to youru...@chat.facebook.com and disable Require encription. Notice tough that empathy doesn't support conferencing under telepathy- haze, only old-fashioned chat as if it was 1999, heh. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I can not confirm this bug, for me ICQ, Facebook Chat, Google Talk, all work behind a proxy. The only exception is MSN which has its own bug report (Bug #579281). But even MSN will work if telepathy-butterfly is removed so telepathy- haze is used instead. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I confirm this bug in empathy 2.30.2-0ubuntu1, on ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS. steps to reproduce: 1. setup (add) a Jabber account in empathy (i.e. GTalk) 2. verify that you CANNOT connect to jabber server directly, without http_prxy (i.e. you can setup iptable rule to drop direct connections to jabber server) 3. set system proxy configuration 4. verify that you CAN connect to jabber server If you cannot confirm this bug, I guess that your being behind the proxy is not enforced. It is usually enforced in many companies or campuses. So, if http proxy in your network is not obligatory, you may not confirming this bug correctly. If you need some more details to confirm this bug I'll be happy to help. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
@ Micha I am behind a proxy at an university campus. I just tested it and you are correct that I am able to connect to Gtalk and Facebook chat even when I remove the global proxy settings. My browser, MSN, ICQ, synaptic, and so forth however do not work, so I assumed the proxy settings would be needed for all connections. Sorry for the confusion. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: empathy Status: Confirmed = Unknown ** Changed in: empathy Importance: Unknown = High -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Yahoo is working through GNOME proxy from v2.31.91.1. Using Ubuntu Maverick Beta. But no application level proxy preferences yet. In my office, GTalk works without proxy and Yahoo works only through proxy. Pidgin gives me this flexibility where as Empathy doesn't. Back to Pidgin :| -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: New = Confirmed -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Triaged = New -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Unassigning from the Canonical Desktop Team since realistically the team has no capacity right now to work on those changes ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = (unassigned) ** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = (unassigned) -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Problem still not fixed please let me know when problem resolved, I have to use pidgin in my office :( -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
If anyone is working on some patch, then please let others know. Thanks in advance. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
This is getting really sad. After a month since 10.04 was released, this proxy in empathy issue is still not solved. I installed Pidgin (which works straight away - takes system proxy settings) and gave up on this... -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
can confirm #87 solution too: sudo apt-get remove telepathy-gabble telepathy-butterfly did the trick -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
It did it for me too. Thanks. 2010/5/26 Peter Hagen pe...@wingsofdeath.nu can confirm #87 solution too: sudo apt-get remove telepathy-gabble telepathy-butterfly did the trick -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber of the bug. Status in Chat app, and Telepathy user interface: Confirmed Status in Jabber/XMPP connection manager: Confirmed Status in Telepathy Haze: Confirmed Status in A full-featured IRC connection manager for telepathy.: Confirmed Status in “empathy” package in Ubuntu: Triaged Status in “empathy” source package in Lucid: Triaged Bug description: Binary package hint: empathy Empathy wont connect to any major service trough a proxy. I've tried Google Talk, Jabber, MSN and Yahoo. I set the proxy preferences in GNOME, it's a plain proxy for all protocols, without authentication. Pidgin works normally in the same setup. Ubuntu 8.10, Empathy 2.24.1 To unsubscribe from this bug, go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/empathy/+bug/304889/+subscribe -- Pablo A. Iturralde -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
The bad thing is that under telepathy-haze video calls don't work. Strange, because in pidgin they do. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
libpurple has support for video, all telepathy-haze has to do is implement the wrapper from libpurple to telepathy... but that's not implemented yet (perhaps never). -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I just tested this in Lucid (64bit). It indeed seams to be fixed! Google Talk, ICQ, and facebook chat seem to work fine. MSN did work, but i think its blocked by the university (in pidgin it only works with the http method). -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I can't confirm this. I'm on Lucid 64bit and -at least for MSN- Empathy is still showing Network Failure. Maybe I'll try a fresh install later (I upgraded from beta). -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Empathy has nothing to do with proxy stuff, connection issues and so on. You need to check which specific telepathy CM you are using. That should be easy to check with 'ps -A | grep telepathy'. My guess would be that only telepathy-haze works (using GNOME's proxy settings). -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Confirmed what #87 guessed: telepathy-haze works ok (trough libpurple, just as pidgin?). Verified by uninstalling telepathy-gabble and telepathy=butterfly, and restarting gnome. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
This *IS* already long, and winding, and partially boring. Let me nevertheless update the discussion to Lucid: No, System-Wide at Network Proxy Preferences does not set any proxy at all; at least I can't find any being used. It should apply to apt-get, as well as the Terminal Session (Gnome Terminal). It isn't. This is 10.04, netbook remix. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Everyone affected by this bug should also sign up for Bug #516032 (add- apt-repository not working behind a proxy) and Bug #387308 (ubuntu one not working behind proxy), as they are sure to be affected as well. Thank you -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
I was affected by this bug on karmic. Since a fresh install on Lucid, no problems at all, empathy works fine behind my lab's proxy ! -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Lucid now. Now it works for yahoo, but still gives Network Failure for jabber/google talk and MSN. Exactly the opposite of Joshua R. Paulson's report... -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
On 10.04 LTS empathy appears to work fine with a squid caching proxy except the Yahoo IM, which appears to suffer the same problem that pidgin did: http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9488 ** Bug watch added: Pidgin Trac #9488 http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/9488 -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
This is ultra lame, how can I deploy Lucid in a Enterprise Environment and the Proxy does not work in Empathy, Please Fix. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
One way round this is to enable transparent proxy on your proxy. This would allow the proxy setup to be invincible to internet aware applications withing your network. You might want to talk to your network admin. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
bigbrovar: that is not a workaround on this issue, no corporate sysadmin will even consider changing a corporate proxy configuration to help you talk over MSN in Ubuntu. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
It’s sad that such a serious bug has been present since Jaunty and almost nothing has been done to solve it. GNOME already switched from Pidgin to Empathy for no *really good* reason and Ubuntu simply chose to follow them blindly. My company uses the Sametime protocol for IM collaboration and now I have to choose between a working client (Pidgin) and the one that integrates well with the shell (Empathy). My (silly but necessary) workaround has been to switch off the GNOME proxy settings, connect to the Sametime server, then switch them back on. My opinion? Fix this already, or revert to Pidgin and let the GNOME folks deal with this as their reward. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Please stop writing useless comments. This is a bug tracker, not a stupid forum. While the status of this bug is not changed there is no point to post I'm also affected comment, we know that this doesn't work and this is not going to change magically until developpers implement the missing bits. That being said, we are currently working on adding proxy support to Telepathy backends. This won't be done for Lucid but I'm pretty confident that it should be integrated for Lucid+1. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
Couldn't disagree more Guillaume. As so clearly pointed out by Sebastien Bacher, this bug isn't considered so serious by the powers that be. While this might not be a stupid forum (or any other type of forum for that matter) it is, as you so eloquently pointed out, a bug tracker (you know - a place were people post and comment on bugs). If this isn't the correct place to comment about bug 304889, I'd love to know where is. The more comments on this bug, the more important it will be seen by the powers that be. If Ars Technica were to post a scathing article about this bug and label Ubuntu immature because of it, this bug would be fixed tomorrow. Since that might well be beyond our reach, this is the best way to make our feelings known about the bug and raise its profile. The only other alternative that I can see is to use a piece of software that works (and might even have a stupid forum we can use too!!). -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings
First of all, GNOME never switched from Pidgin to Empathy because Pidgin has never been part of GNOME, and has never intended to. It's just a GTK+ app that has never collaborated with anyone... GNOME, freedesktop.org, etc. So, before Empathy, GNOME didn't really have an alternative. Now, I think distributions should have made proxy support a _blocker_ feature for Empathy inclusion (regardless of GNOME's decision), but that didn't happen, and now people are complaining (understandably) because the default IM client just doesn't work (for them). I don't agree with Guillaume, I think people have a reason to complain, but it would be nice to do it in a more constructive manner, and perhaps follow the upstream bugs, and perhaps provide some testing. However, the upstream bugs are very scattered and unclear. For example, telepathy-haze *already* has proxy support since libpurple already has proxy support, however, it works mostly by accident, behind the back of telepathy-haze using GConf. All Telepathy guys need to do is add some configuration to pass to libpurple, and use telepathy-haze instead of native CM's. Unfortunately, for political reasons I doubt Telepathy guys would do that, instead they will wait until their native CM's do support proxy properly. If Ubuntu guys are interested, I'm sure I can provide patches for that. -- Does not use system proxy settings https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/304889 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
