[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
** Description changed: - Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps. + Accented letters (dead keys) do not work if you install a complex + writing language Spanish layout uses a two-key press in order to write an accented letter - (i.e. you click ´ and then a in order to write á). + (i.e. you click ´ and then a in order to write á). Now I know these are + called dead keys. Steps to follow: - -Install Konqueror from the repositories (or download Opera from it's web) - -Go to System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layouts and add Spain. Click on Layout Options and enable a layout switching that works for you (standard is clicking both alts but that didn't work for me, so I chose clicking both shifts). - -Go to any application (e.g. gedit), switch to spanish layout, and write an accented letter, such as á. - -Go to Konqueror and try to do that, it will not let you, you will write ´a + -Install Ubuntu in a language with dead keys, such as spanish or french + -Add a complex writing language, such as japanese or chinese + -Now you cannot write á you will write ´a instead. It's like dead keys stop being dead - If you install complex writing (scim) and add spanish to it, you will be - able to write accented letters, as long as you use the scim - Spanish/European layout, and not the linux default. + Previously, if you installed complex writing (scim) and added spanish to + it, you were able to write accented letters, as long as you use the scim + Spanish/European layout, and not the linux default. Now even that + doesn't work - The first two comments were added before I found out this problem was - not scim related. + This seems to be the same bug as + http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=526 ** Summary changed: - Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps + Accented letters (dead keys) do not work (i.e. stop being 'dead') if you install a complex writing language -- Accented letters (dead keys) do not work (i.e. stop being 'dead') if you install a complex writing language https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
Hi Román I didn't know those were called dead keys. I've read about dead keys before, but never knew what exactly they were ;-) I rerolled to kubuntu on my main computer, but since I have special interest in this issue, and I'm very happy with you trying to figure this out, I just installed a new Ubuntu64 VM from scratch. These were the steps taken and their results: 1) Clean installation in spanish 2) Updated everything and rebooted 3) Opened up a gnome app and tried to write Á or Â. It worked fine, as it always did (these things must be tested just in case) 4) Installed kate, a KDE application and tried to write Á or Â. It worked fine! It just didn't before, it would write ´A. 5) Installed amsn, a TCL application and tried to write Á or Â. It worked fine! It just didn't before, it would write A. 6) Downloaded skype from the web and installed it; I don't even know what it uses. It worked fine! It just didn't before, it would write ´A. 7) After reading your link, I decided I would open up openoffice writer. Tried to write Á or Â. It worked fine, as it always did (these things must be tested just in case) 8) Being completely amazed at this, I went to a workmate's pc that still uses Ubuntu64 and had this problem as well. Kate worked. I guess it must have been fixed in some update since my last post. I'll use the oportunity to try KDE. So far I like it, even though it's so different that I have to relearn even the most basic things. One last thing, I tried to do this: # ps axu | grep -i ibus And found no ibus process running. Is this normal? -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
By the way, I didn't try the ibus-x11 command since it all worked, but I
did do the echo {text,pack,focus}$' .t\n' | wish and was able to write Á
in that window with no problem.
Thank you for your time, and happy new year!
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[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
Sorry for the spam. I was so happy that I decided I could finally write in japanese and in spanish, so I added support for Japanese writing. That accomplished two things: -Now I have the Ibus icon near the clock -Now I cannot use dead keys in non-gnome applications :-( So these are the steps I took: 1) Run /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-x11 without killing current ibus. Still cannot write Á, it writes ´A 2) Restart the computer and run ps axu | grep -i ibus. Now I see several processes: - /usr/bin/ibus-daemon --xim - /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-gconf - python /usr/share/ibus/ui/gtk/main.py - /usr/lib/ibus/ibus-x11 --kill-daemon - python /usr/share/ibus-anthy/engine/main.py --ibus 3) Try all previous apps (kate, tcl, xterm, etc...). They all fail to write Á So yes, the problem comes when you have a dead-key language, such as spanish or french, and a complex writing language, such as japanese or chinese. I used to be able to overcome this using scim, and selecting spanish inside of it. Now I'm not even able to do that. My guess is that if I try to add japanese to my kubuntu something will break as well. I can try and install a clean kubuntu if you want. -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
Calabacín, could you run
/usr/lib/ibus/ibus-x11
to see if it makes any difference?
(if you have tcl/tk installed, you could run a quick test with
echo {text,pack,focus}$' .t\n' | wish
)
I think it's a problem with the way ibus-daemon is launched (without -x
flag).
Anyway, you'll find yourself stalled at the next handicap:
http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=526
Regards
** Bug watch added: IBus bugs #526
http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=526
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[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
I'm willing to make any tests you want. So far I have found this (always using standard repositories, except for Skype): - I install a new UBUNTU 9.10 - Gnome applications work fine (for example gedit) - I install Kate, Kopete, or any other KDE application (just tried a few), and it will NOT let me write á , it will write ´a - I install aMSN (TCL/TK) and it will simply write a instead of á , it won't even write the ´ - I install Skype (something not really standard), and it will NOT let me write á , it will write ´a Also I have found this: - I install a new KUBUNTU 9.10 - KDE applications work fine (for example kate) - I install gedit, empathy, or any other Gnome application (just tried a few), and it WILL let me write á without problems. - I install aMSN (TCL/TK) and it WILL let me write á without problems. - I install Skype (something not really standard) and it WILL let me write á without problems. So everything works fine with Kubuntu. Is there any other solutions for Spanish-speaking users other than rerolling to Kubuntu? Regards, -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
This bus has been reintroduced in Ubuntu Karmic. I can confirm it happens in any out-of-the-box installation, and I can also confirm that it's not scim related, since scim is not even installed! unassigning from scim, requesting help with general triage ** Package changed: scim (Ubuntu) = ubuntu ** Changed in: ubuntu Assignee: Rolf Leggewie (r0lf) = (unassigned) -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
This bus has been reintroduced in Ubuntu Karmic. I can confirm it happens in any out-of-the-box installation, and I can also confirm that it's not scim related, since scim is not even installed! The steps are the same as in the first post: Install any non-gnome app (such as kate), and try to write an accented letter. It will write ´a instead of á. You can check this with any keyboard, just make sure you have selected spanish layout. As an additional information, I enable complex writing with Alt-º and if I try that combination inside kate it does work, but it writes a º as well. Also, I can write 日本語 (japanese) and ελλινικα (greek) within Kate without problems. I haven't tried installing scim, since I fear it might spoil the ibus interface (this ibus thing is completely new to me). -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
After checking this on several new installations, I can confirm this bug still happens. ** Changed in: scim (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released = Confirmed -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
Thank you for confirming. Closing as fix released. ** Changed in: scim (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Released -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
Hi Rolf. IT WORKED. Thanks a lot! This was a really annoying issue, you can't imagine. I cannot find a way to see what language I am typing in, but I guess that it'll be somewhere to be found. Steps followed: -- - Installed Karmic in spanish (if you install in any other language, just add the spanish(Spain) layout. - Upgraded all packages - Installed Kate (any non-gnome app, such as Konkeror, will do) - Started Kate (or the non-gnome app you installed) - Tried to write an accented letter, such as á and it worked -- After installing japanese support and input method, I have been unable to setup my computer to also write in that language, even fiddling with the Ibus settings. -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
From my point of view this bug can be closed. I'm so Glad I could help a bit by pointing it out. -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
I'll install it in a VM an I'll tell you the results. Thank you Rolf. -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
Calabacin, do you still see this in Karmic? -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
Thank you for reporting. I think this dead-key issue may be fixed in 1.4.9 which is about to be released in Karmic. Please verify. https://launchpad.net/~r0lf/+archive/hardy/+sourcepub/678492/+listing- archive-extra ** Changed in: scim (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete ** Changed in: scim (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) = Rolf Leggewie (r0lf) -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
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[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
** Changed in: scim (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: kubuntu-meta = scim -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Kubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to kubuntu-meta in ubuntu. -- kubuntu-bugs mailing list kubuntu-b...@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-bugs
[Bug 335732] Re: Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps
** Summary changed: - scim enabled installation does not allow accented letters on non-gnome apps + Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps ** Description changed: - Binary package hint: scim - - If scim is being used, accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome - apps. + Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps. Spanish layout uses a two-key press in order to write an accented letter (i.e. you click ´ and then a in order to write á). - I'm not sure if this is a scim related problem, or if its related to the - window manager (gnome, kde...). + Steps to follow: + -Install Konqueror from the repositories (or download Opera from it's web) + -Go to System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layouts and add Spain. Click on Layout Options and enable a layout switching that works for you (standard is clicking both alts but that didn't work for me, so I chose clicking both shifts). + -Go to any application (e.g. gedit), switch to spanish layout, and write an accented letter, such as á. + -Go to Konqueror and try to do that, it will not let you, you will write ´a - Steps to follow: - -Go to System-Administration-Language support. - -Add Spanish (I also installed Japanese, but you probably do not need to install it to reproduce the error) - -Enable 'Complex character writing' (you will probably have to reboot) - -Go to System-Preferences-Keyboard and make sure that you have Spanish(Spain) (I also installed greek, but you probably do not need to install it to reproduce the error) - -Install some non-gnome application. Try for example Konqueror from the repositories, or download Opera from it's web. - -Go to any non-gnome application and, using spanish layout, try to write any letter with any accent, such as á, it will write ´a. + If you install complex writing (scim) and add spanish to it, you will be + able to write accented letters, as long as you use the scim + Spanish/European layout, and not the linux default. - I reinstalled fresh again doing JUST these steps, and the problem happened again. All packages are up to date. - scim 1.4.7-3ubuntu8 - scim-anthy 1.2.4-1ubuntu2 - scim-bridge-agent 0.4.14-1ubuntu2 - scim-bridge-client-gtk 0.4.14-1ubuntu2 - scim-gtk2-immodule 1.4.7-3ubuntu8 - scim-modules-socket 1.4.7-3ubuntu8 + The first two comments were added before I found out this problem was + not scim related. -- Accented letters cannot be written on non-gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/335732 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
