[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags
** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Won't Fix ** Package changed: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) => firefox (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Wayne Pollock from comment #401) > Brian's link to the w3.org bug was interesting, but all modern browser now > support nth-child. I will just have to redo my web pages. *sigh* As mentioned in that link, nth-child is not a solution, not due to lack of support though. There's a reason to one uses it. Adding CSS somewhere, the style -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Wayne Pollock from comment #401) > Brian's link to the w3.org bug was interesting, but all modern browser now > support nth-child. I will just have to redo my web pages. *sigh* As mentioned in that link, nth-child is not a solution, not due to lack of support though. There's a reason to one uses it. Adding CSS somewhere, even when you can, to style a single table by column position (which can change as you author/update it), is unmaintainable at best. Examine tables in the wild. It's all cell-by-cell attributes, either by CSS classes or alignment attributes. Think about how inefficient that is. All because no one takes this bug seriously. (Almost impossible to add a comment to this bug in Firefox Mobile.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags
** Changed in: firefox Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Scott Trenda from comment #398) > Personally I would be happy to just sit and let it age with its "NEW" > status, as an internet relic of browser and spec history... but with the > HTML5 spec officially deprecating these attributes (and HTML5 being old and > stable enough for that decision to be less contentious among developers), > closing this bug as WONTFIX does sound appropriate. I’m completely with you on wanting to leave it open, but I think it does need some sort of resolution, if for no other reason than clarity. I wish there was a status like OBSOLETE or NLR (No Longer Relevant) to indicate that it was closed not because a “fix” was found and rejected, or the original request was misguided, but because the original impetus was nullified by subsequent events. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I guess it is safe to close it. It has been more than 20 years and it is unlikely we will spend time on it... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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HTML 4 and earlier have officially been superseded by HTML 5. So although browsers continue to support HTML 3 and 4 (and most of my web pages are written for those specifications), it is clear that Mozilla is not going to spend time or money fixing the browser to support what they apparently believe to be an obsolete standard. I think it's time to put this bug out of its misery. Brian's link to the w3.org bug was interesting, but all modern browser now support nth-child. I will just have to redo my web pages. *sigh* -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I'm not sure why this would be considered either obsolete or NLR. Is there some new solution to column alignment other than decorating each cell or setting up fragile rules using distant selectors based on physical location? No real updates on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18026 for the HTML spec so far, so maybe I'm missing something. (The updated password requirements here are *absurd*. Is money handled somewhere here now?) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Agree with Wayne, and note that W3C spec dev is now done in github: https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/ It is a while since bugzilla was used for HTML/CSS etc. Previous versions of HTML (that include align attributes on col) are superseded, and the recent versions don't include align attributes on col: https://www.w3.org/TR/html52/tabular-data.html#the-col-element I beleive it is seen as a presentational, therefore CSS issue. Which is a shame, this is the first bug I subscribed to in around 1998 ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Ryan Hayle from comment #397) > > Status: NEW > > Reported: 20 years ago > > Perhaps it's time to close this one out? Funny you should say that now - just earlier this week I came across a 16-year old bug in Bugzilla, and thought, "I wonder how old 915 is by now". Personally I would be happy to just sit and let it age with its "NEW" status, as an internet relic of browser and spec history... but with the HTML5 spec officially deprecating these attributes (and HTML5 being old and stable enough for that decision to be less contentious among developers), closing this bug as WONTFIX does sound appropriate. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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> Status: NEW > Reported: 20 years ago Perhaps it's time to close this one out? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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*** Bug 1172368 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Bug watch added: W3C Bugzilla #18026 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18026 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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All this story makes no sense, in the end. According to the previous comments above: Those who wrote the standard had no clue about what was being defined. So no correction (aka 4.02?) to the HTML standard has been proposed/discussed/done in 15 years. Implementing and reimplementing for years interim unstable specs has been considered more important than fixing the current stuff. If anything is too hard to fix, than shame on application developers, each of them, to find a suitable workaround in their software. Sounds like we are at Microsoft or IBM more than the Mozilla Foundation. Despite the motto We’re building a better Internet (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/mission/) and the manifesto 08 Transparent community-based processes promote participation, accountability and trust. I need to be wrong and/or misinterpreting all these words. Shame on me. Please close this bug with whatever tag you want. It won't matter anyway. I only hope that challenging someone's choices is not interpreted as impolite, rude or unkind. I hate to accept technical stuff blindly and with no factual justification. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to David Baron [:dbaron] (UTC-7) from comment #394) Please see comment 288 and comment 379 (which, really, you should have read before adding comments here; if people don't read the bug before commenting, it will grow too big for anybody deciding what to do about the bug to read the comments). I am familiar with this bug, as I've been following it for more than ten years. I don't see the point in calling out bugspam by adding further bugspam, and replies should really be more constructive than scolding. I'd say the ship has probably already sailed on the size of the comments here. The problem with a style (CSS :-moz-nth-column()) solution (as mentioned in the W3 bug I linked to) to a content problem, is that: 1. Content authors are less likely to have access to a site's stylesheet than to a site's markup. 2. It's unmaintainable for separate, centralized stylesheets. Every table would need a class or id and changes to the number of columns for any table would require splitting it from the class or updating the site stylesheet's column styles for that id. What does the WYSIWYG or wiki or CMS process look like for this? 3. Maintaining it closer to the table using inline styles or (perhaps eventually) scoped CSS doesn't really have any advantage over the align attribute approach, and may have significant disadvantage (such as having to update the individual page's style when table changes are made). There's more in the 18026 ticket, although using col element alignment doesn't address much of the problem of using a columns physical position to determine it's appearance either, but in the current absence of a td:numeric selector, a pure markup solution can be important. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Brian Lalonde from comment #392) Is there a reasonable solution to aligning by column, rather than cell-by-cell, other than this one or the CSS :numeric selector proposal at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18026 ? Please see comment 288 and comment 379 (which, really, you should have read before adding comments here; if people don't read the bug before commenting, it will grow too big for anybody deciding what to do about the bug to read the comments). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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While the alignment attributes are gone now, the style attribute remains. Are we using honesty as a euphamism for avoiding difficult functionality? Is there a reasonable solution to aligning by column, rather than cell- by-cell, other than this one or the CSS :numeric selector proposal at https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=18026 ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I think everyone will concede to honesty here. But, for the sake of honesty, everyone should concede that if you wait long enough, any bug will end up this very way. It's called the ostrich philophy. Comment 17 (18 months later) was the technical key point for a fix and a quick one. Comment 324 (12 years later) has been the political key point not to fix it. I would bet that HTML5 doesn't have this feature because no browser has ever had it in the 16 years (well, I don't consider IE a real web browser). But I could be badly wwong. So long, bug no.915! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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When a bug report describes an actual discrepancy (not an RFE), closing it merely because it has not yet been fixed is a fantasy. Even if the bug is difficult to fix, something is definitely wrong with the code. As long as the code is discrepant, the bug report should thus remain open. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I can see closing the parts relating to character alignment as WONTFIX. Those are explicitly stated as optional in the HTML4 spec and they would definitely impact performance, especially when the engine has to calculate the character offset. The other attributes only require column inheritance of properties. That was fairly simple in the pre-CSS pre-DOM days as the user agent could know which column a cell was in and always would be. The former is still true and I doubt that there would be many cases where these attributes would be used where DOM manipulations would be done. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915#c389 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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This bug is old enough to drive a car. Given that no progress has occurred in years, given that the property is officially obsolete, and given that WebKit/Blink renders the testcases identically to Gecko, I think it's time to be honest and resolve this WONTFIX. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Bug watch removed: Mozilla Bugzilla #280661 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280661 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Bug watch removed: bugzilla.opendarwin.org/ #3241 http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3241 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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has anyone thought of contacting Opera and asking how they implemented it? I think the secret affairs algorithm had a lot to do with it: http://ln.hixie.ch/?start=1037910467count=1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Scott Trenda from comment #380) Once you have a :-moz-column() pseudo-class selector in place, couldn't you just add this set of rules to the internal Mozilla default stylesheet? Scott, your remark seems to me to make a lot of sense. Pretty much. Maybe not in the solution itself, but rather in its philosophy. I mean, the missing parts you mentioned would need some extra programmatic approach, like linking (default, built-in) Javascript procedures to default CSS. A few facts. 1. HTML4 documents and applications won't vanish overnight once HTML5 will be a standard. A better support to HTML4 will make the web a better place. 2. W3C standards have proven not to be bullet proof (among the most recent cases: http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/10/22/0310230/xml- encryption-broken-need-to-fix-w3c-standard). 3. Smart interpretation (of standards) and implementation (of browsers) in the mid- long-term are better than strict ones. (In reply to Scott Trenda from comment #380) So please, godspeed on bug 371323. :) Yes, plase! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Scott Trenda from comment #371) Joking aside, since WebKit is also waiting on Mozilla to take action on this fix, has anyone thought of contacting Opera and asking how they implemented it? They seem to be a leader in CSS compliance and have somehow created an implementation that follows HTML 4.01 without seriously compromising their CSS compliance. Who knows, they may be sympathetic to Mozilla's plight here (seeing as how this bug is so infamous by now), and may be willing to help out. I say it's worth a shot, but obviously I don't have the kind of connections necessary to pull it off. :) David [Baron]? This isn't useful. comment 288 describes exactly the work that remains to be done. However, I'm more interested in doing that work in order to support the semantic column selectors in the selectors4 draft (in bug 371323) than to support the deprecated presentational attributes requested in this bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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David, you should know by now that deprecated presentational attributes
requested are fighting words in the context of this thread, but I'd
like to discuss bug 371323 that you mentioned, instead.
I understand that as a volunteer contributor to an open-source project,
the type of work that you are interested in doing does affect what makes
it into the end product. On that note, I read the spec in the proposed
selectors4 draft for :column(). I'd like to encourage you to pursue that
implementation. I think that doing so will help both of us. It seems to
be defined well enough from a CSS perspective to let you write it in a
way that is compatible with the rest of your CSS engine. Once you have a
:-moz-column() pseudo-class selector in place, couldn't you just add
this set of rules to the internal Mozilla default stylesheet?
:-moz-column(col[align=left ]) { text-align: left ; }
:-moz-column(col[align=center ]) { text-align: center ; }
:-moz-column(col[align=right]) { text-align: right ; }
:-moz-column(col[align=justify ]) { text-align: justify; }
:-moz-column(col[valign=top ]) { vertical-align: top ; }
:-moz-column(col[valign=middle ]) { vertical-align: middle ; }
:-moz-column(col[valign=bottom ]) { vertical-align: bottom ; }
:-moz-column(col[valign=baseline]) { vertical-align: baseline; }
Similar rules could be added for align/valign in colgroups:
:-moz-column(colgroup[align=left] col) { text-align: left; }
The downsides I see with this approach:
- it wouldn't cover align=char and charoff
- I don't know if it'd be possible to handle cols with span defined
- assigning styles directly to the col element (e.g. col.style.textAlign =
center) wouldn't update the style
The upsides to this approach:
- it'd probably be good enough for most of the people in this thread
- it would be fairly harmless to add at that point (via the default stylesheet)
- it would finally bring an end to 13 years of fighting over this damn bug.
So please, godspeed on bug 371323. :)
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Great! So what were the *semantic* elements used to distinguish a simple text value from numeric, date, or other values again? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Apologies for any excessive snark in that last reply (and two volleys of bugspam), but there is a complete lack of semantic distinction to graduate to in order to meet reasonable presentational needs. There may be a strong argument for a 'tn' (table numeric value) element in HTML5 for bare minimum numeric tabular data markup support (and consequential CSS alignment), even ignoring any need to align decimal characters or otherwise homogenize/improve the display of dissimilar/unsatisfactory numeric formats (like adding a printf-style format specifier to the col element). Allowing tr to directly contain elements like 'time' in HTML5 would be another practical solution. However, nothing like that exists today, or to my knowledge has even been fully proposed. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Scott Trenda from comment #371) Joking aside, No joke, my money is real -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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In reply to Brian, even if we had a tn element, it wouldn't help to align texts to a pivot character. align:char is/was a very interesting way in html/css to do the job. And I even seen it used in a copy/paste from OpenOffice to a browser (in a html attribute)... Every other solution is only... painful As for col/colgroup to really group cols. And don't talk again about :nth in css, it simply fail stupidly where you have to colspan/rowspan -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Scott Trenda from comment #374) I don't know what debates have taken place within the working group on this topic All presentational features, such as font, align=, etc, were dropped in the new HTML standard, because they have been deprecated for over a decade and there's really no longer any reason for anyone to be using them in new documents. These features are now completely obsolete and it is non-conforming (invalid) to use them in HTML documents. I would not expect this to change even if browsers added support for this feature. If you feel the need to discuss this decision, please do not do so on this bug (you can e-mail me directly if necessary to avoid posting here). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Perhaps it's time to make a bounty to search and destroy this old bug. Personnaly, I'm ok to put 15$ on it. Anyone ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Xavier Mouton-Dubosc from comment #368) I really need vertical align by a character, because that is the only reason some companies uses IE + Excel in the intranet. Well, the COL group makes a lot of sense to tabular data presentation anyway. And it seems that it doesn't make any sense without it being fully implemented. But guys, read the previous (very old) comments. It seems there's been a number of unsuccessful fix attempts in the past. The HTML 4.01 and the CSS2 are conflicting (shame on the standardisation board) and the developers of all opensource brosers decided to go the same way: CSS2 everywhere. There's no will at all to implement the COL stuff as per the standard. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Joking aside, since WebKit is also waiting on Mozilla to take action on this fix, has anyone thought of contacting Opera and asking how they implemented it? They seem to be a leader in CSS compliance and have somehow created an implementation that follows HTML 4.01 without seriously compromising their CSS compliance. Who knows, they may be sympathetic to Mozilla's plight here (seeing as how this bug is so infamous by now), and may be willing to help out. I say it's worth a shot, but obviously I don't have the kind of connections necessary to pull it off. :) David [Baron]? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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$15 more from me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I agree, Gecko should support column align via both HTML and CSS but now it haven't support at all. $15 more form me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to Uqbar from comment #365) Stop all this bounting (bug-hunting), please. :-) Actually, comment 363 and comment 364 are the most constructive comments since comment 280. € 15,- from me. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I really need vertical align by a character, because that is the only reason some companies uses IE + Excel in the intranet. I put € 15. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Stop all this bounting (bug-hunting), please. :-) Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome, Konqueror, Rekonq, Safari and other similar browsers cannot handle simple HTML4 code. They render HTML4 by always using implict CSS2 styiling. So CSS is in place even whrn you don't require it. And thus, besides other nice features, the COL tag is pretty useless. And will forever. I hate this, but this is the way this crazy world is. The option is to start a brand new browser project as it seems that a number of proposed patches has been rejected in the past... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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And it seems the *align and other useful attributes were removed in HTML5 (http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-col-element) to fix this conflict. So a new HTML4-only browser is not a real option. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Scott, even if the Opera devs would through their hints in, do you know what'd the Mozilla devs answer? It's already here, at Comment 324: we don't mind any more. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Uqbar - but Comment 324 was effectively negated by Comment 347, where this bug was reopened. I think I had something to do with that, but regardless, I'm just trying to be helpful here at this late stage of the game. aceman - you do have a valid point. I'm definitely not willing to try myself to persuade the W3C to re-include align/valign/etc. in the HTML5 spec, and I don't know what debates have taken place within the working group on this topic, but think of it this way: if HTML5 is supposed to be a spec based on the current support of HTML5 in modern browsers, don't you think it could possibly change their mind if a real implementation was made by Mozilla and then followed by WebKit? That would mean support in all 5 of the major modern browsers, and then maybe there would be a stronger reason to reinclude it in HTML5. As has been pointed out here numerous times, col is effectively useless without align, and there is no alternative CSS approach that could possibly be as useful as the align attribute from HTML4. I think it's still worth a shot. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I think col would also be useful to DRY CSS: cells in a column usually share many of their presentation properties, so this would avoid having the same CSS class[es] for every cell in the column. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Currently, col is useful only for background-color. Other than that and accessibily, I do not see. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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You should discuss that here: http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD- html5-20110525/ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I'd say that besides background-color, common cases are also font-*, color, padding, maybe even border. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I'm ttempted to pay a bounty to keep the bug in place. Over the years, it's felt like an old and familiar friend. I feel part of an exclusive club, defending bugdom and keeping the world safe from the boring conformity of fully working software. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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*** Bug 694792 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Happy Birthday and Congratulations Bug 915 You're now a teenager (base 10) ! Not many of your species achieve that advanced age. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Mmm. COL align=char char=., is it possible with CSS ? Anyway, it's not present in the HTML5 draft... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #357) Mmm. COL align=char char=., is it possible with CSS ? No, it's not possible in CSS. See http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/REC-CSS2-20110607/tables.html#columns But http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/tables.html#h-11.2.4.2 and http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/tables.html#adef-align-TD and http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/tables.html#adef-char suggest that plain simple HTML4 should suffice. Anyway, it's not present in the HTML5 draft... HTML5-draft is just a ... ehm ... a draft. It could completely vanish, be superseded by another draft or even be committed as a standard. Implementations relying on drafts are, IMHO, a huge waste of resources. And an ajoyable one, it looks to me. The only current real standard is HTML4.01, though. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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The support of this HTML 4.01 element is it planed ? Currently, except from changing the width or the background is not used much. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Accordingly to a number of earlier comments the Mozilla Design Board plans to leave the v4.01 support as it is now. Unless someone will pick the issue up and solve it. (I'm not part of that board). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/firefox/+bug/353877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #354) Happy 12th anniversary! Only one more year to go to become a teen! Amazing that this bug has been pushed around for 12 years. This will be a nice feature for finally specifying styling for a COLUMN of cells instead of each individual cell in a column, which is ironically is NOT the operation we're going for. So I'm happy to see this being looked at. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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*** Bug 647534 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 Title: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Description changed: Binary package hint: firefox-3.0 Accordingly to the standard (http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/attributes.html), both the width and the align attributes can be defined into a COL tag. After all, this is one of the reasons why the COL tag exists at all: to define properties related to columns. What instead happens with Firefox 3 is that the width property gets honoured and rendered, while the align is not. - To reproduce this bug you can either load the pages I attach here or just point your browser to these addresses: - http://www.notorand.it/alignbug.html - http://www.notorand.it/alignbug2.html - - Disappoinly, Microsoft Internet Explorer v7 does it right! + Disappointingly, Microsoft Internet Explorer v7 does it right! ProblemType: Bug Architecture: amd64 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.10 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: firefox-3.0 3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2 ProcEnviron: - LC_COLLATE=C - PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games - LANG=en_US.UTF-8 - SHELL=/bin/bash + LC_COLLATE=C + PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games + LANG=en_US.UTF-8 + SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: firefox-3.0 Uname: Linux 2.6.27-14-generic x86_64 -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Changed in: firefox Importance: Unknown = Medium -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #50688 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=50688 ** Bug watch added: code.google.com/p/chromium/issues #12094 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=12094 -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Changed in: firefox Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Changed in: firefox Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #280661 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=280661 -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
As far as CSS2.1, it's OK the way it is. As far as HTML4.01 it's a bug. And a 10+ years old one: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915 ** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #915 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915 -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium ** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Also affects: firefox via https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=915 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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** Changed in: firefox Status: Unknown = Confirmed -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] [NEW] FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: firefox-3.0 Accordingly to the standard (http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/attributes.html), both the width and the align attributes can be defined into a COL tag. After all, this is one of the reasons why the COL tag exists at all: to define properties related to columns. What instead happens with Firefox 3 is that the width property gets honoured and rendered, while the align is not. To reproduce this bug you can either load the pages I attach here or just point your browser to these addresses: http://www.notorand.it/alignbug.html http://www.notorand.it/alignbug2.html Disappoinly, Microsoft Internet Explorer v7 does it right! ProblemType: Bug Architecture: amd64 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.10 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia Package: firefox-3.0 3.0.8+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.10.2 ProcEnviron: LC_COLLATE=C PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: firefox-3.0 Uname: Linux 2.6.27-14-generic x86_64 ** Affects: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: apport-bug -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Attachment added: alignbug.html http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24700158/alignbug.html ** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24700159/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: ExtensionSummary.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24700160/ExtensionSummary.txt ** Attachment added: profiles.ini.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24700161/profiles.ini.txt -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Attachment added: 2nd version of the problem http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24700225/alignbug2.html -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 353877] Re: FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags
** Attachment added: IEv7 does it right! http://launchpadlibrarian.net/24700244/alignbug-ie.PNG -- FF doesn't render the properties and the styles of COL tags https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/353877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
