[Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
If its solved with a recommends, then there is nothing in u-m that needs to be done, it should just work. Closing the bugtask. ** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
I've discussed this with the Debian clamav maintainer and agree that given the current behavior of installing recommends by default, recommends is appropriate. ** Changed in: clamav (Ubuntu) Status: New = Won't Fix -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
I don't know a lot about clamav, but if clamav-milter does not work at all (anymore?) without clamav-daemon, then it should have a hard dependency instead of a recommends. The reason why it was not installed for Matt may be that he upgraded from hardy via apt-get. The hardy version does not install recommends by default there, so he may end up without the required clamav-daemon. -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
The trick is that while it requires clamav-daemon, it is not required to be on the same machine, so a hard dependency is excessive. I think it's safe to assume that any upgrade would want it since their configuration should continue to work. -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
This may sound a bit silly, I'm not sure, but why not just prompt the user during upgrade? Several apps are always popping up dialogs for each upgrade cycle (sysstat's log format *always* changes for some reason :). You could just say The new clamav-milter requires clamav- daemon to be installed. If you're using a remote daemon, make sure to edit /etc/clamav/clamav-milter.conf and add its location. Otherwise, make sure you install clamav-daemon now. [OK] I'm not sure if apt supports doing more advanced actions like actually asking the user if they want to install clamav-daemon on the spot, but you get the idea. (And yes, I apt-get dist-upgrade.) -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
I don't use update-manager, but from what I understand it's a graphical applications which may be of little benefit to those of us running servers with no window manager. I can confirm what you said about this only affecting upgrade installs, which is good news at least. The bad news is I also ran into another issue (actually 2) with the latest update this afternoon. First, the upgrade process (and even a --purge) doesn't do anything about old instances of /etc/default/clamav-milter. This is problematic because the init script apparently still reads this file for OPTIONS. Unfortunately, a number of the old options are now invalid, so leaving this file intact breaks the startup if you've declared any commandline options. It also seems the in-box init script is somewhat broken regarding the new milter as well: Setting up clamav-milter (0.95.1+dfsg-1ubuntu1) ... * Starting Sendmail milter plugin for ClamAV clamav-milter /usr/sbin/clamav-milter: unrecognized option `--pidfile' ERROR: Unknown option passed ERROR: Can't parse command line options This I can confirm from a fresh install (no /etc/defaults at all), so it's not an upgrade issue. -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
There's a cli version of update-manager too. A new clamav upload was accepted yesterday with some milter init fixes in it. Does that work for you? If not, please file a separate bug for that. -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
Starting in a clean chroot and installing clamav-milter, I get: apt-get install clamav-milter Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: adduser clamav-base clamav-freshclam cron libclamav6 libltdl7 libmilter1.0.1 libpopt0 libtommath0 logrotate ucf Suggested packages: ecryptfs-utils clamav-docs apparmor daemon exim4 postfix mail-transport-agent anacron lockfile-progs checksecurity mailx Recommended packages: clamav clamav-daemon Since recommends are installed by default, for a new install, it would get installed. I do recall the discussion about this now. The reason it's not a hard depends is that the clamav-daemon can be on a remote machine. I'll investigate what we can do about upgrades. ** Also affects: update-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 363453] Re: clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?)
For upgrades from Intrepid to Jaunty, can update-manager check and make sure that if clamav-milter is installed, clamav-daemon gets installed too? -- clamav-milter requires clamav-daemon in jaunty (?) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/363453 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
