[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 541511 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/541511 ** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 447892 [i855gm] Freeze shortly after X startup on Intel i855 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 541511 MASTER: [i855] GPU lockup (apport-crash) * You can subscribe to bug 541511 by following this link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/541511/+subscribe -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 Title: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 447892 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/447892 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 447892 [i855gm] Freeze shortly after X startup on Intel i855 -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
still not working on the Lucid LTS 10.04... -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
I tried today's Live CD on two of my computers (the third one is an AMD 64) but I couldn't do anything. it does not work. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
It might be worth testing the Lucid Beta 2 (or, soon, the RC) LiveCDs. There's been some work to stabilise these old cards, at the expense of some functionality. If you could test out the LiveCD it would be good to know either way - if what we've done so far is enough, or whether it is still unstable. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Sorry for the delay but after some professional issues, I made some manipulations on my laptop, and yesterday I managed to boot on the 2.6.31.1-855gmtest599-git522bb74 kernel. I installed both image and headers, in first the boot seem to freeze, but after booting on a previous kernel version with XOrg freeze and ssh connection to reboot the laptop, I managed to boot. In fact I write this text from my laptop. does anyone made an other package I cant test form Karmic As I will not upgrade to any version of Lucid Lynx if this correction is not released. I think it is dangerous to try an upgrade with the risk of a XOrg freeze ... (If I understand, the apw/red ppa is for lucid only ?) -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
[This is an automatic notification.] Thanks for reporting this bug to help making the Intel graphics driver better. We hear from upstream that a number of bugs (possibly including this one) have been fixed in the newer DRM code from the 2.6.33 kernel. I don't know if your bug is one of the ones fixed in this release, though, but we've prepared a PPA with this DRM update. Would you mind installing this, rebooting, and testing if the original issue can be reproduced with it or not? The DRM PPA is here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~apw/+archive/red Note there could be new bugs... please file these as new reports using the command 'ubuntu-bug linux' (for kernel or DRM or KMS bugs) or 'ubuntu-bug xorg' if you suspect them to be X.org issues. ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Status: Unknown => Confirmed -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
** Summary changed: - [i855] [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM + [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #26345 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26345 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Status: Confirmed => Unknown ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Remote watch: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #22771 => freedesktop.org Bugzilla #26345 -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
For anyone on Lucid, I have uploaded a version of Lucid's libdrm to my PPA which has this patch: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/drm/commit/?id=4f0f871730b76730ca58209181d16725b0c40184 . This patch is supposed to fix many of the freeze problems that has occurred lately. The PPA is at https://launchpad.net/~gomyhr/+archive/standard . -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
I made the test trying to install linux-image-2.6.31.1-855gmtest599-git522bb74_gomyhr2nopae_i386.deb 04-Jan-2010 18:21 30M But my computer does not boot with this image. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
I have an Asus M5200N as well and the cause of the freeze has been identified in bug 447892. I have installed the "599" testing kernel and haven't had a freeze since. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
I tried to see if there was something into Xorg logs or into GDM logs, I installed some debug symbols package bu I can see nothing to explain this freeze. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
with SSH installed and a gnome session freezed I can stay connected by SSH to the computer. I can confirm this. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Seems this issue is even more frequent on Karmic Koala (9.10). I'm also on an Asus M5200N notebook. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
The issue persists in karmic, after login X freeze. ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Released => Confirmed -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/xserver-xorg-video-intel -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
same thing here. With Jaunty the system freezes occasionally. It's nerving but not a show stopper .. i hope the downgrade to 2.4 will do the trick here. But when i boot the Karmic, the x-server freezes after a random amount of seconds. Sometimes the mouse cursor still moves ... sometimes not. I tested the ubuntu-x-swat and the xorg-edgers drivers, but that didn't help. The console on the other hand works like a charm. The only way to get a stable x-server under karmic is by blacklisting the i915 module. This however comes with the disadvantage of having no dri (not so bad, because the 855gme as dast as a snail) and no xv (bad ... very bad). Switching to an external monitor works though. My system is a ASUS M5200N laptop (Pentium M 1.6ghz with 855gme chipset). PS: please excuse mistakes ... my english is a bit rusty. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Hello, I experiment a similar problem with my ASUS S5N (Graphic card intel 92852/855GM) Since I upgraded my laptop to 9.10 from 9.04 I experiment random freeze on GDM sessions. Sometimes I can move the mose but nothing else can be done. I didn't tried SSH because I never installed this on my computers (I think I wil try) But it is clearly link to XOrg or GDM as I didn't have problems when I quickly switch to console tty1 (CTRL+ALT+F1) I suspect an interaction with kernel. When I boot on "normal" 2.6.31-15-generic kernel My computer freezes. When I boot on "Old" 2.6.28-16-generic kernel My computer does not freeze but I don't see mouse cursor and my touchpad is deactivated. If someone wants more experiments on this computer I cant give all the logs you can ask me or try all experiment you can imagine. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
I have clean-installed Karmic 9.10. Freeze occurs more often than on Jaunty 9.04. (nothing new here). Can someone explain me the bug process. Status is confirmed and Fix released. What's next for a end user? Thanks -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Fix release: where can we get the fix? -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Status: Fix Released => Confirmed -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Alright Mike! really thank you for this information. I will sign-up to the site and post (event hough I was a bit worry about the certification issue), but I cannot explain in technical terms as you did, so I am sure I don't stand a chance. But who knows? I will keep you with an update if there is any output. I won't touch custom kernels. My question was related to the Official Ubuntu kernel: when there is an update (current is 2.6.28-15-generic 2), do I have to re-install the old ati driver after the kernel update, or it is not related (noob question maybe) And again, yes. I will wait for the final release of Karmic + a few more months, see how it goes on the ubuntu forum. You did not experienced any computability issue using the old driver on Karmic, you confirm it is safe? I hope that won't change with the final release. I am glad, because I now can wait a few more months before purchasing a new laptop. I owe you that. You know linux well! What about the other distributions (Debian, open suze, Fedora) do they have the same problem with notebooks? I use Linux Unbuntu for a month or so, I am now reading a few Apress manuals (Linux Bible and bash commands) to get by. The conception and usability is way better than windows, but then come all these annoying things: bad drivers, printer not recognized, FN keys not working. It is not much, but I was wondering if another distro (even a pay one - like Red hat) would be better. On the other hand all perhaps all these problems might not occur on a newer notebook and printer? Marc On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 09:05 +, Mike Rose wrote: > > And since you have tested your Panasonic under Karmic, could you install > > the old driver too? What is your advice? Karmic is available soon. I was > > planning to install it on the notebook. > > Don't touch Karmic until it's released. It's the same story there, > you'll need to install the 2.4 drivers. I've been using linux for close > to 10 years now and even I tend to stay away from development versions. > For you, I'd suggest you wait for the actual release as karmic is > currently in development/testing and things can and will go wrong. And > I'm not just talking about your graphics driver. > > I would also suggest staying away from custom kernels if you're a > newcomer to linux, as it's not very user friendly. Don't get me wrong, > it's a lot better than what it used to be, but I'd suggest trying the > other options first and only go to the custom kernel route if you really > have to. > > Mike > -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
> And since you have tested your Panasonic under Karmic, could you install > the old driver too? What is your advice? Karmic is available soon. I was > planning to install it on the notebook. Don't touch Karmic until it's released. It's the same story there, you'll need to install the 2.4 drivers. I've been using linux for close to 10 years now and even I tend to stay away from development versions. For you, I'd suggest you wait for the actual release as karmic is currently in development/testing and things can and will go wrong. And I'm not just talking about your graphics driver. I would also suggest staying away from custom kernels if you're a newcomer to linux, as it's not very user friendly. Don't get me wrong, it's a lot better than what it used to be, but I'd suggest trying the other options first and only go to the custom kernel route if you really have to. Mike -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 07:25 +, nomnex wrote: > Panasonic Driver > > Hi, thank you very much for your answer. It brings much clarity. I was > slow to answer because I did some research in the meantime. > Nevertheless, it is bit technical for my understanding. May I ask your > advice to help me go along the process. Disclaimer: English is my second > language. I master it very imperfectly. Thank you to take it in > consideration. > > --- > > First: Your bug report "Upstream" - what does mean Upstream in the > Ubuntu terminology (vs. the bug report in Launchpad)? > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22771 > > Eric Anholt says: [...] The batchbuffer dump doesn't conclusively point > to the bug I just fixed [...] Please re-open if the bug persists [...] > > I don't see any link to a patch or other indication and as stated in > your message - sadly, there is little to expect on this side. Exactly what I was referring to when I said upstream. To reopen the bug I had to sign up and I wasn't prepared to do this with a site with an invalid certificate (I am doing a phd in information security, I'm a bit paranoid when it comes to these things :) so I just gave up and went back to 2.4. It seems that no one (ubuntu or X) is interested in something that is a total show-stopper, at least for some subsection of the community. I wonder how many new users haven't even bothered to raise a bug report, bagged linux for being so unstable and went back to windows. And some people wonder why linux isn't ready for mainstream adoption. > --- > > I can use the tutorial "Reverting the Jaunty Xorg intel driver to > 2.4" (as you did), however before doing so, you would mind following the > links below and tell me if any of them could be relevant to our Intel > driver problem? > > A. Title: ATI unsupported cards in jaunty: full effects: > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1164013 > > B. How To Fix Freezes in Ubuntu on hp 540 - simlar complain and a work > around > http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2009/05/how-to-fix-freezes-in-ubuntu-on-hp-540.html > > Maybe a topic of interest (C and D are related) > > C. HOWTO: Jaunty Intel Graphics Performance Guide > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 > > Although the disclamer looks like a stopper - I use an external > boardband wirless card btw. > "*Disclaimer: Using a third-party kernel means that you will no longer > have access to "restricted" drivers such as FGLRX, NVIDIA, some Broadcom > wireless chipsets, certain webcams and a handful new sound cards that > require restricted firmware to function. If you believe that you have > restricted hardware on your machine, you should continue using the > official Jaunty kernel - in other words, stick to the Safe > configuration." > > D. X Updates on Launchpad (see title and link E below): > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates > > --- I really have given up, feel free to try these things though and please report back if you find something that works. I have too many things to do than to be fumbling around in the dark trying to find what's breaking ubuntu. > Thanks you again for your time and patience. No worries. :) > Marc > Tel +81 90 2106 17 20 > Tel. marc-...@docomo.ne.jp > > PS: The Celeron cpu/ram (512 max) and display of the CF-W2 model are not > suitable for gaming. However I do watch Divx movies in my spare time. If > I go above a size of 340x240, the movie turns dark and freeze. This is > not normal. Do you think using old driver might solve the problem? And > correct if I am wrong, but movies are 2D? In your message you talk about > 3D, but 3D is only about modern computer games - like brutal chess > http://sourceforge.net/projects/brutalchess/ Correct. The desktop visual effects are using 3D though, so best turn these off using the method I said in my previous email. Good luck! :) Mike -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Hello again, I have some problem with my email client Evolution. Did you receive my previous message? If not I will send it agin. I have already changed the driver for the old one, and it works indeed much better. Thanks for the tip. I am curious to know if we can find another workaround through the links I have sent you. Also when there is a Kernel update, does it affect the driver or not? And since you have tested your Panasonic under Karmic, could you install the old driver too? What is your advice? Karmic is available soon. I was planning to install it on the notebook. Marc On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 04:23 +, Mike Rose wrote: > Hi Nomnex, > I'm no ubuntu bugsmith, so I don't know if you should be asking for > advice or not here, but I'm happy to give it. :) > > If you follow that link you talk about, it will give you instructions on > how to revert to the older version of the display driver. This older > version is still fine and I haven't yet found any issues. It is, > however, not very fast at 3D. If you're into gaming, I'd suggest > having/keeping a dual boot with windows as you won't get very good > performance out of the 855 under linux (well, under anything really, but > windows will be better). I also suggest you turn off visual effects > (system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none) but you > can try without and see if it's fast enough for you. > > It seems that this bug has been submitted upstream and for some reason, > subsequently closed, even though the bug has not been fixed. > > It's the unfortunate state of affairs that some driver/software > developers don't want to hear about bugs in their code and seem to react > with derision towards anyone reporting. Possibly this is the case here, > I don't know. I can understand their frustration though, as it seems > that too many newcomers to linux don't understand how FOSS works and > treat the developers as if they *should* or *have to* help them. It can > be frustrating to both parties, however everyone needs to remember that > the developers are putting in their own time and effort for free and > have no obligation to do *anything* for *anyone*. > > > I have given up hope on this bug being fixed and will continue to use > the 2.4 drivers until it's time to upgrade my laptop. Hopefully these > older drivers remain compatible with future X changes until this time. > > If you want to take this bug further, I'm sure someone else subscribed > to this bug report will be able to direct you in the right direction. > Just remember the point above; in this community, the developers are > considered gods and justifiably so. For a developer to fix this bug is > to do you a favour so try to avoid getting angry or frustrated if they > decline. > > I hope this helps. :) > > Mike > > On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 04:02 +, nomnex wrote: > > @Mike Rose and everybody on the thread. > > > > Hi, glad I found this thread. I am fairly new to Ubuntu and certainly > > less experienced than any of you. I use Jaunty on a Panasonic Let's note > > model CF-W2 I bought in Japan a few years ago (Intel chipset must be > > very close to CF-R3). > > > > I experience exactly the same symptoms: Random freezes (the machine is a > > little sluggish a few minutes before). The mouse can move on screen. The > > only way to recover is to operate a cold-boot. > > > > It is very frustrating since I do love using Linux Ubuntu (vs. M$). Do > > you mind if I ask for help on the thread? Do I have to follow a link: > > Reverting the Jaunty Xorg intel driver to 2.4 - and if I do will I > > experienced any graphic change - or do I have to install Karmic (but > > reading the thread freezes still occur). > > > > Sorry, I am not helpful to the thread, I only ask for advice/help. > > > > -- > [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > > Status in X.org xf86-video-intel: Fix Released > Status in “xserver-xorg-video-intel” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released > > Bug description: > Running Jaunty on a Panasonic CF-R3 notebook with intel 855GM graphics > chipset and pentium M processor. X (running compiz) will completely freeze > seemingly randomly (fairly often though - easily 5 times a day), > necessitating a hardware restart (or REISUB) although the mouse pointer is > still responsive and disk activity is still continuing. Another generic intel > driver freeze it would seem. > > I've tried the usual suspects with no avail: > happens on both UXA and EXA > with and without "MigrationHeuristics" "greedy" > > Turning DRI off seems to fix the issue though. > > Taking a look at my /var/log/kern.log, it seems that every time these lockups > occur i'm getting a kernel log error of: > Apr 29 12:49:26 mike-laptop kernel: [ 1032.985907] mtrr: no MTRR for > e800,800 found > > [lspci] > 00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation 82852/828
Re: [Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Panasonic Driver Hi, thank you very much for your answer. It brings much clarity. I was slow to answer because I did some research in the meantime. Nevertheless, it is bit technical for my understanding. May I ask your advice to help me go along the process. Disclaimer: English is my second language. I master it very imperfectly. Thank you to take it in consideration. --- First: Your bug report "Upstream" - what does mean Upstream in the Ubuntu terminology (vs. the bug report in Launchpad)? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22771 Eric Anholt says: [...] The batchbuffer dump doesn't conclusively point to the bug I just fixed [...] Please re-open if the bug persists [...] I don't see any link to a patch or other indication and as stated in your message - sadly, there is little to expect on this side. --- I can use the tutorial "Reverting the Jaunty Xorg intel driver to 2.4" (as you did), however before doing so, you would mind following the links below and tell me if any of them could be relevant to our Intel driver problem? A. Title: ATI unsupported cards in jaunty: full effects: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1164013 B. How To Fix Freezes in Ubuntu on hp 540 - simlar complain and a work around http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2009/05/how-to-fix-freezes-in-ubuntu-on-hp-540.html Maybe a topic of interest (C and D are related) C. HOWTO: Jaunty Intel Graphics Performance Guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 Although the disclamer looks like a stopper - I use an external boardband wirless card btw. "*Disclaimer: Using a third-party kernel means that you will no longer have access to "restricted" drivers such as FGLRX, NVIDIA, some Broadcom wireless chipsets, certain webcams and a handful new sound cards that require restricted firmware to function. If you believe that you have restricted hardware on your machine, you should continue using the official Jaunty kernel - in other words, stick to the Safe configuration." D. X Updates on Launchpad (see title and link E below): https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates --- Thanks you again for your time and patience. Marc Tel +81 90 2106 17 20 Tel. marc-...@docomo.ne.jp PS: The Celeron cpu/ram (512 max) and display of the CF-W2 model are not suitable for gaming. However I do watch Divx movies in my spare time. If I go above a size of 340x240, the movie turns dark and freeze. This is not normal. Do you think using old driver might solve the problem? And correct if I am wrong, but movies are 2D? In your message you talk about 3D, but 3D is only about modern computer games - like brutal chess http://sourceforge.net/projects/brutalchess/ On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 04:23 +, Mike Rose wrote: > Hi Nomnex, > I'm no ubuntu bugsmith, so I don't know if you should be asking for > advice or not here, but I'm happy to give it. :) > > If you follow that link you talk about, it will give you instructions on > how to revert to the older version of the display driver. This older > version is still fine and I haven't yet found any issues. It is, > however, not very fast at 3D. If you're into gaming, I'd suggest > having/keeping a dual boot with windows as you won't get very good > performance out of the 855 under linux (well, under anything really, but > windows will be better). I also suggest you turn off visual effects > (system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none) but you > can try without and see if it's fast enough for you. > > It seems that this bug has been submitted upstream and for some reason, > subsequently closed, even though the bug has not been fixed. > > It's the unfortunate state of affairs that some driver/software > developers don't want to hear about bugs in their code and seem to react > with derision towards anyone reporting. Possibly this is the case here, > I don't know. I can understand their frustration though, as it seems > that too many newcomers to linux don't understand how FOSS works and > treat the developers as if they *should* or *have to* help them. It can > be frustrating to both parties, however everyone needs to remember that > the developers are putting in their own time and effort for free and > have no obligation to do *anything* for *anyone*. > > > I have given up hope on this bug being fixed and will continue to use > the 2.4 drivers until it's time to upgrade my laptop. Hopefully these > older drivers remain compatible with future X changes until this time. > > If you want to take this bug further, I'm sure someone else subscribed > to this bug report will be able to direct you in the right direction. > Just remember the point above; in this community, the developers are > considered gods and justifiably so. For a developer to fix this bug is > to do y
Re: [Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Hi Nomnex, I'm no ubuntu bugsmith, so I don't know if you should be asking for advice or not here, but I'm happy to give it. :) If you follow that link you talk about, it will give you instructions on how to revert to the older version of the display driver. This older version is still fine and I haven't yet found any issues. It is, however, not very fast at 3D. If you're into gaming, I'd suggest having/keeping a dual boot with windows as you won't get very good performance out of the 855 under linux (well, under anything really, but windows will be better). I also suggest you turn off visual effects (system -> preferences -> appearance -> visual effects -> none) but you can try without and see if it's fast enough for you. It seems that this bug has been submitted upstream and for some reason, subsequently closed, even though the bug has not been fixed. It's the unfortunate state of affairs that some driver/software developers don't want to hear about bugs in their code and seem to react with derision towards anyone reporting. Possibly this is the case here, I don't know. I can understand their frustration though, as it seems that too many newcomers to linux don't understand how FOSS works and treat the developers as if they *should* or *have to* help them. It can be frustrating to both parties, however everyone needs to remember that the developers are putting in their own time and effort for free and have no obligation to do *anything* for *anyone*. I have given up hope on this bug being fixed and will continue to use the 2.4 drivers until it's time to upgrade my laptop. Hopefully these older drivers remain compatible with future X changes until this time. If you want to take this bug further, I'm sure someone else subscribed to this bug report will be able to direct you in the right direction. Just remember the point above; in this community, the developers are considered gods and justifiably so. For a developer to fix this bug is to do you a favour so try to avoid getting angry or frustrated if they decline. I hope this helps. :) Mike On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 04:02 +, nomnex wrote: > @Mike Rose and everybody on the thread. > > Hi, glad I found this thread. I am fairly new to Ubuntu and certainly > less experienced than any of you. I use Jaunty on a Panasonic Let's note > model CF-W2 I bought in Japan a few years ago (Intel chipset must be > very close to CF-R3). > > I experience exactly the same symptoms: Random freezes (the machine is a > little sluggish a few minutes before). The mouse can move on screen. The > only way to recover is to operate a cold-boot. > > It is very frustrating since I do love using Linux Ubuntu (vs. M$). Do > you mind if I ask for help on the thread? Do I have to follow a link: > Reverting the Jaunty Xorg intel driver to 2.4 - and if I do will I > experienced any graphic change - or do I have to install Karmic (but > reading the thread freezes still occur). > > Sorry, I am not helpful to the thread, I only ask for advice/help. > -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
@Mike Rose and everybody on the thread. Hi, glad I found this thread. I am fairly new to Ubuntu and certainly less experienced than any of you. I use Jaunty on a Panasonic Let's note model CF-W2 I bought in Japan a few years ago (Intel chipset must be very close to CF-R3). I experience exactly the same symptoms: Random freezes (the machine is a little sluggish a few minutes before). The mouse can move on screen. The only way to recover is to operate a cold-boot. It is very frustrating since I do love using Linux Ubuntu (vs. M$). Do you mind if I ask for help on the thread? Do I have to follow a link: Reverting the Jaunty Xorg intel driver to 2.4 - and if I do will I experienced any graphic change - or do I have to install Karmic (but reading the thread freezes still occur). Sorry, I am not helpful to the thread, I only ask for advice/help. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
Incorrect. Not fixed as of 2:2.8.0-0ubuntu1 In addition, I can't even seem to install the older 2.4 version over the top anymore, so now I'm stuck with this buggy driver. Very frustrating when I'm trying to work. Bryce, is it at all possible to put the old intel driver in the official ubuntu repos? Perhaps call it xserver-xorg-video-intel-old or something. This is getting ridiculous. This driver should never have been released as stable without testing on all hardware it supposedly supports, and if it was released as unstable, it should have never found it's way into ubuntu without an alternative. -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
This bug was fixed in the package xserver-xorg-video-intel - 2:2.7.99.902+git20090720.bb300738-0ubuntu1 --- xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:2.7.99.902+git20090720.bb300738-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low * Update to git 20090720 (master branch) up to commit bb300738 - Fix intel driver reports Couldn't find PLL settings on i915 (LP: #312133) - Fix X freezing on intel 855GM (LP: #370292) - Implement vblank sync'd GL buffer swap (LP: #377090) -- Bryce HarringtonMon, 20 Jul 2009 22:05:31 -0700 ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Fix Released -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Status: Confirmed => Fix Released -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 370292] Re: [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Status: Unknown => Confirmed -- [i855] X freezing on intel 855GM https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/370292 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
