[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
Jérôme : Kindly read all the comments above This *needs* to be discussed on the mailing list... subscribe to > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop and propose your solution to the list , so that this can be discussed. A bug report is not the place for these discussions. -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
Mac_v, I'm not speaking about netbooks but about laptops. A 12" mobile computer has a DVD writer and thus is a laptop but not a netbook. Thus I need to install Ubuntu desktop edition. -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
Jérôme , Kindly read *all* the comments above. This move has to be first discussed in the mailing list and we have a separate UNR edition for this . We can not be modifying desktop edition simply because netbooks have become powerful. For the use case you've mentioned UNR needs to be updated , not Desktop edition. And paperctus are only regarding desktop editioon. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Invalid -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
The new powerfull notebooks processors and 16/10 displays should make the question raise again. ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Invalid => New -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
The new 12" notebooks have powerfull processors and thus allows to use the standard Ubuntu flavor instead of the netbook edition. However the default 2nd panel is wasting place in height. Moreover, the new displays are mostly with a 16/10 or 16/9 aspect ratio. It is boring each new notebook user who has to remove the 2nd panel and add the new applets in the 1st one by hand. -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
As said before by Sebastien this needs to be discussed on a mailing list rather than in a bug report. closing the report. ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Status: New => Invalid -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
Ok I know this is not befitting of a serious and useful place like Launchpad, but that seriously calls for a.ROFL :D Klicki, you do not know what you have just done, you have opened a pandora's box. I would suggest, run and do not look back :D. Are you new to Linux or Linux forums? People HATE it when anyone suggests be like windows just for the sake of it or to attract windows users. Linux is Linux, for any change, there should be a good reason irrespective of windows. That windows does it a certain way is all the more reason for most Linux users to NOT want it like that. Windows is a dirty word hehe. So I could not stop laughing when I read this: "Simply change the default layout in Ubuntu, so that it resembles (visually and behavior-wise) Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Kubuntu, … It's so easy to do and would make switching to Ubuntu so much user-friendler.". Not my views, but just the way things are in Linux forums, you might not get bashed and flamed here because this is launchpad and usually full of mature devs and similar people but on user forums, what you suggested (actually the way you suggested it) would go down very badly with the enthusiasts. I actually agree with you on most points but not simply because Windows does it, but because Windows, KDE and Mac do it a certain way simply because it is a better way. Many people consider KDE a sell out because of its Windows like taskbar. -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
The first proposal in this bug is also my #1 Paper Cut! But I would phrase it differently: Ubuntu's default desktop setup looks way too geeky, it should look more like good 'ol familiar Windows. :-) The average Ubuntu novice user has previous experience with MS Windows. The standard layout of Windows desktop hasn't changed much since the introduction of Windows 95 almost 15 years ago! That is: * only one panel at the bottom * "Start"/"Windows" button on the far left (no need for the application menu) * Status and notification items on the far right * Launchers and open apps in between * NO Workspaces (they only confuse our average Joe) The first thing I always do when I set up Ubuntu on a client's computer is to recreate the Windows standard layout. It eases the transition by removing one more hurdle. By the way, also Mac users are confused by the two-panel-layout, because the top-panel behaves completely different than the menu bar in Mac OS. I'd say that the confusing is eaven bigger for Mac-heads. So nobody(!) benefits from the current default settings. It's just a "trivially fixable usability bug that the average user would encounter on his/her first day of using a brand new installation of Ubuntu Desktop Edition." ;-) Simply change the default layout in Ubuntu, so that it resembles (visually and behavior-wise) Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Vista, Windows 7, Kubuntu, … It's so easy to do and would make switching to Ubuntu so much user-friendler. P.S.: The few(!) geeks who really love the two-panel layout can easily add panels to their liking. But the default setting is supposed to *attract* new users from the Windows-world, not scare 'em off. -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
The bug tracker is not really where to get discussions about such changes, better to use some user lists ** Package changed: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) => ubuntu ** Changed in: ubuntu Importance: Undecided => Wishlist ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: New => Invalid ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist ** Changed in: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
** Also affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 392518] Re: Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary
** Also affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Package changed: ubuntu => ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) -- Two Desktop GNOME panels unnecessary https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/392518 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
