[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Nicolò Chieffo]

I downloaded the 1.3.0-1 from debian (I know, it's not fedora) and it PARTIALLY 
fixed the problem.
There are still some sites which embed flash videos which still needs the 
workaround!

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Hendrik Knackstedt]

I'm sorry if I was a little bit too fast submitting my comment before I
really made sure it worked. I'm also just trying to help to solve this
problem.

So, here are 3 links where the issue comes up on my computer:
http://www.fanconnection.de/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S8Kop9PPo8&playnext_from=TL&videos=BJ0IC4BWBPo&feature=grec_index
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3ygZrJczM8&feature=popular

I don't think this will prevent all spam, because it might still work
for some people, but lets give it a try.

Work-around 3 worked for me too on a AMD64 Ubuntu 10.04 and this is
applied in the Fedora-patch I mentioned in my last comment. So I think
the easiest workaround (well, I guess it's actually not a patch) for now
is to just port the Fedora nspluginwrapper to Ubuntu until there is a
"real" patch.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Ben James]

Can I suggest that, in order to cut down spam on this bug, somebody
formulates a list of, say, 20 known failure cases (with links to the
appropriate video/game/advert/whatever) and this is used to confirm the
validity of a fix on any given platform.

Hopefully this can help prevent some of the "It's fixed!", followed
shortly by "..oh, hold on a minute, no it's not".

By the way, manual work-around 3 works fine for me on AMD64 Ubuntu
10.04.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Hendrik Knackstedt]

Looks like nspluginwrapper-1.3.0 fixed the issue on Fedora though
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542424). Can we port this
patch to Ubuntu?

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[David Tombs]

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Guys, it's still broken. Just because it happens to work once means
nothing with this bug--it doesn't always appear. So please stop spamming
everyone with comments. Thanks.

On 06/14/2010 11:04 AM, Hendrik Knackstedt wrote:
> I also need to correct my last comment. Maybe the videos I tried were
> just some that worked before anyway because I had some videos where the
> issue came up again.
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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Hendrik Knackstedt]

I also need to correct my last comment. Maybe the videos I tried were
just some that worked before anyway because I had some videos where the
issue came up again.

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Jeremy Nickurak]

I also have the same issue after upgrading to nspluginwrapper 1.3.0 from
debian.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 08:40, Jeremy Nickurak  wrote:
> Likewise, still present with 10.1.53.64ubuntu0.10.04.1 from lucid-updates.
>
> On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 04:39, 3ntix  wrote:
>> Neither me! The bug is still present.
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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Jeremy Nickurak]

Likewise, still present with 10.1.53.64ubuntu0.10.04.1 from lucid-
updates.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 04:39, 3ntix  wrote:
> Neither me! The bug is still present.
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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[3ntix]

Neither me! The bug is still present.

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[jango]

I just tried, and it is NOT fixed for other flash applets like videos on 
megavideo or several games.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Monika Antoni]

I agree with Hendrik, the latest flashplugin-installer update seems to
have fixed this. i have - up to now - no more issues with flash on both
youtube and facebook.

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Nicolò Chieffo]

I'm in Maverick with version 10.1.53.64ubuntu1 and I still see issues
in youtube videos (without the workaround).

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Hendrik Knackstedt]

I think this was solved by the update of flashplugin-installer to
version 10.1.53.64ubuntu10.04.1 released yesterday. At least it looks
like the update fixed the issue on my system (Lucid). But I think
Youtube also made some changes to their website so the problem could
still exist somewhere else. Can anyone confirm this?

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Brian Rogers]

Doesn't this only happen on 64-bit Firefox with the 32-bit plugin using
nsplugwrapper? I suspect that's a scenario they don't test.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Rusty Burchfield]

Adobe is on 6-12+ month release cycles for fixes like these.  I wouldn't
be surprised if this bug was fixed a year ago and is in the next major
release of flash.

I also wouldn't be surprised if 10 other bugs have been added in the
next release. :(

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[3vi1]

Go for it wensveen!  I voted for the bug on their tracker, though I
don't expect them to give us any attention until they finish the more
important task of convincing Apple to allow Flash on additional
platforms.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[wensveen]

Yes, that's true of course. If they are interested, someone (for
instance, me) could cook up a vmware or some other virtual machine,
where this bug is easily reproducible. But I don't think there's
anything wrong with voting for this bug on their bug tracker.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Anders Kaseorg]

I’m guessing that what would help upstream most is a reliable,
deterministic, verified recipe for reproducing the problem starting from
a controlled known environment, such as a specific version of the Ubuntu
live CD

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Christopher Neville-Smith]

I may be misreading the bug report, but it seems to fail to mention that
the bug only affects the 64-bit build. That might be the crucial bit of
information they need.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Хаджиев]

Perfect idea!

I've just voted.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[wensveen]

Is it an idea to vote for the upstream bug
(http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-4597) to be fixed? I should think
400 votes would draw some attention.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[wensveen]

Couldn't we 'fix' this bug by implementing the nspluginwrapper /
GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS workaround, and then open another bug to track the
real issue. That would help most people in that they get a properly
working flash plugin.

BTW, the upstream bug report by Anders has a priority of "None". How
they can fail to see this issue eludes me. Also, it seems he didn't test
on youtube or the link you provided, and I have noticed that some flash
video players don't exhibit this problem, and the problem is not
consistent even then (see my comment #61).

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Anders Kaseorg]

Joe: No, this is not fixed in 1.3.0.  The reason that it works in Fedora
is that they enabled the GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS workaround in Fedora release
nspluginwrapper-1.3.0-10.fc12.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Joe Crawford]

As #31 says, this is fixed in 1.3.0.
Fedora got this update more than a year ago! 
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=144633

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Michael Lustfield]

** Changed in: epiphany-browser (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Anders Kaseorg]

Yixing Jia closed the upstream Adobe bug
 with the following comment:

“Please update to the latest Flash player build”

Since this issue is not fixed in either the latest stable version or the
latest release candidate, I reopened the upstream bug as
.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Anders Kaseorg]

** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #542424
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542424

** Also affects: nspluginwrapper (Fedora) via
   https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=542424
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[coldReactive]

I used Ubuntu 10.04 near when it came out on my ASUS Laptop with Radeon
Mobility HD 5870, and disabling compiz did NOT help for firefox, nothing
could be clicked, etc. Didn't try to put on GDK Native Window hack, so
yeah... might have fixed my issue.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[riltondigger]

I upgrade my Chrome to 5.0.375.38 beta and works fine to me! 
I am using ubuntu 10.04 amd64, but firefox still have problem , but if i 
disable the compiz effects , the flash plugin works too.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[pablomme]

@Marcin: the development version of Chromium is currently at 6.0.400.0.
This was fixed at one of the 5.0.39x dev releases. Try the chromium-
daily PPA if you want this fixed.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk]

It's not fixed for me in Chromium 5.0.375.29, i.e. I still need 'export
GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1' in /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Javier Adrian Rojas]

sometimes I have a click on flash bottons and their does't respond, in
kubuntu intrepid and firefox 3.6.3

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Brad Laue]

Shouldn't this only depend on nspluginwrapper - isn't there a way to set 
that GDK environment variable within the wrapper itself? Would be much 
more maintainable than having to muck around with each individual browser.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Jeremy Nickurak]

** Also affects: epiphany-browser (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Paul-Sebastian Manole]

Yes, fix works for me. I  must add though: God! Please rid us of Flash!
;)

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 9:35 AM, Evan Martin  wrote:
> I am the Chromium developer who fixed this again.
>
> Not that anyone cares anymore, but: the problem was that Flash breaks if 
> GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS isn't set.
> The first fix was to set that in our plugin process before starting Flash.
>
> However, GTK clears the environment variable after initializing.  So
> with nspluginwrapper we would set the variable, initialize GTK, and then
> call into the plugin (nspluginwrapper), which would then spawn its
> helper process which then would run Flash without the variable set.
>
> So as of today's release of Chrome we set the variable, initialize GTK,
> and then immediately set the variable again before calling into the
> plugin.
>
> It seems Firefox may have this second bug as well.
> http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15232  If I remember 
> tomorrow I will attempt to track down that bug in their bug tracker again.
>
> ** Bug watch added: defect.opensolaris.org/bz/ #15232
>   http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15232
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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Evan Martin]

I am the Chromium developer who fixed this again.

Not that anyone cares anymore, but: the problem was that Flash breaks if 
GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS isn't set.
The first fix was to set that in our plugin process before starting Flash.

However, GTK clears the environment variable after initializing.  So
with nspluginwrapper we would set the variable, initialize GTK, and then
call into the plugin (nspluginwrapper), which would then spawn its
helper process which then would run Flash without the variable set.

So as of today's release of Chrome we set the variable, initialize GTK,
and then immediately set the variable again before calling into the
plugin.

It seems Firefox may have this second bug as well.
http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15232  If I remember tomorrow 
I will attempt to track down that bug in their bug tracker again.

** Bug watch added: defect.opensolaris.org/bz/ #15232
   http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=15232

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[RussianNeuroMancer]

http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/05/dev-channel-update.html
http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=20654
Looks like this bug is fixed for Chromium Browser build 5.0.396.

Check fresh chromium-browser build from ppa:chromium-daily/ppa

** Changed in: chromium-browser
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** Changed in: chromium-browser
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** Changed in: chromium-browser
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** Changed in: chromium-browser
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** Changed in: chromium-browser
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** Also affects: ia32-libs (Ubuntu)
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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

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Miro Hadzhiev (Хаджиев) wrote:
>> Flash player in Ubuntu 10.04 is running so bad...
>>
>> Please make flash player to run smoothly in this version...
> 
> It's not bad, it is AWFUL actually!
> 

OK folks, let's stop using this bug as a forum. Thanks.

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[Хаджиев]

> Flash player in Ubuntu 10.04 is running so bad...
>
> Please make flash player to run smoothly in this version...

It's not bad, it is AWFUL actually!

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Jeremy Nickurak]

Unless I'm mistaken, that's still the february 11th 2010 release,
which is 10.0.45.2. It's still considered a pre-release "alpha
refresh" version.

10.1 is still 32-bit only.

FWIW, I've had good luck with mozilla-plugin-gnash lately. It does
real 32bit and 64 bit support, and is a lot more stable. It's still
slower than adobe's, but it's improved a lot in the past couple years.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:27, Paul-Sebastian Manole
 wrote:
> Sorry for my big mistake. Here's the good link:
> http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Paul-Sebastian Manole
>  wrote:
>> There's a new Release Candidate for Flash Player 10.1 for amd64 on Linux:
>> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_1_rc_linux_040510.tar.gz
>>
>> Untar to your ~/.mozilla/plugins/
>>
>> Works fine for me. Also seems a lot faster.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:10 PM, George Silviu Enea
>>  wrote:
>>> Flash player in Ubuntu 10.04 is running so bad...
>>>
>>> Please make flash player to run smoothly in this version...
>>>
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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Paul-Sebastian Manole]

Sorry for my big mistake. Here's the good link:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/64bit.html

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Paul-Sebastian Manole
 wrote:
> There's a new Release Candidate for Flash Player 10.1 for amd64 on Linux:
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_1_rc_linux_040510.tar.gz
>
> Untar to your ~/.mozilla/plugins/
>
> Works fine for me. Also seems a lot faster.
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:10 PM, George Silviu Enea
>  wrote:
>> Flash player in Ubuntu 10.04 is running so bad...
>>
>> Please make flash player to run smoothly in this version...
>>
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[Paul-Sebastian Manole]

There's a new Release Candidate for Flash Player 10.1 for amd64 on Linux:
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/flashplayer10_1_rc_linux_040510.tar.gz

Untar to your ~/.mozilla/plugins/

Works fine for me. Also seems a lot faster.

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 8:10 PM, George Silviu Enea
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> Flash player in Ubuntu 10.04 is running so bad...
>
> Please make flash player to run smoothly in this version...
>
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[George Silviu Enea]

Flash player in Ubuntu 10.04 is running so bad...

Please make flash player to run smoothly in this version...

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Timothy Wilson]

It seems that a recent update to Firefox has broken sound in flash for
me.  Has anyone else noticed this?

The /var/log/apt/term.log reads "Preparing to replace firefox
3.5.8+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1 (using .../firefox_3.5.9
+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.9.10.1_all.deb) ..."

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Mathieu Laurent]

"workaround 3" works for me.

Ubuntu 10.04 :

Architecture: amd64
Source: flashplugin-nonfree
Version: 10.0.45.2ubuntu1

http://helpforlinux.blogspot.com/2009/11/i-cannot-click-on-flash-in-
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[Tim Hockin]

None of the workarounds worked for me.  x86_64 karmic

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Jeremy Nickurak]

Workaround #1 isn't acceptable (I need compositing for other apps).
Workaround #2 means whenever flash crashes, it crashes the entire browser, also 
not acceptable.
Workaround #3 didn't stop epiphany-browser from having this problem.

Is there another workaround I should be using to get epiphany to work
with flash?

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** Changed in: flashplugin-nonfree (Debian)
   Status: Unknown => New

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[dbcoder]

For all you 32-bit users out there, the fix for 64bit systems works too!
You just have to export a variable instead

I use this for a firefox startup script:

export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1
firefox &


Works just fine!!

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[jad]

for what it's worth, until they get a 64bit AIR working the 64bit flash has
real trouble communicating with it and can cause the browser to crash if
they are both running.

Jon

On 17 March 2010 10:36, Paul-Sebastian Manole 
wrote:

> We all know it's alpha, but I think it has worked better than expect
> for some alpha software.
> This can only mean one thing: Adobe should invest a little bit of
> money into making at least a beta version of the flash player for
> 64bit Linux, which if going by the way the alpha version works, would
> mean the beta would be pretty stable. I mean, at least for public
> relation's sake. Releasing a good plugin for Linux would not bring
> them more haters from  the Linux user's world, but on the contrary.
>
> Anyways. . . Now Adobe has a big list of issues that Linux user's have
> had with their alpha plugin. I'm just reasoning; why not put it to
> good use?
>
>

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Paul-Sebastian Manole]

We all know it's alpha, but I think it has worked better than expect
for some alpha software.
This can only mean one thing: Adobe should invest a little bit of
money into making at least a beta version of the flash player for
64bit Linux, which if going by the way the alpha version works, would
mean the beta would be pretty stable. I mean, at least for public
relation's sake. Releasing a good plugin for Linux would not bring
them more haters from  the Linux user's world, but on the contrary.

Anyways. . . Now Adobe has a big list of issues that Linux user's have
had with their alpha plugin. I'm just reasoning; why not put it to
good use?

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Mathieu Marquer
 wrote:
> Native 64 bits flash plugin is still in an alpha state according to
> Adobe, and it crashes a lot (for e.g. when I load Gmail, the flash stuff
> in Google Talk lead Firefox to crash) on my main computer, even with a
> whole fresh install (Ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04 up-to-date, nVidia proprietary
> drivers, GeForce 8600M GT). So I don't think that using the native 64
> bits plugin would be a good thing for now.
>
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[Mathieu Marquer]

Native 64 bits flash plugin is still in an alpha state according to
Adobe, and it crashes a lot (for e.g. when I load Gmail, the flash stuff
in Google Talk lead Firefox to crash) on my main computer, even with a
whole fresh install (Ubuntu 9.10 or 10.04 up-to-date, nVidia proprietary
drivers, GeForce 8600M GT). So I don't think that using the native 64
bits plugin would be a good thing for now.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Хаджиев]

@Manole:

So it can be related to the open-source 'radeon' driver which is used by
default on ATI "r5xx" chips.

However, I think that the 64-bit version of the Adobe Flash plug-in uses
more resources and that's why I have the aforesaid issues.

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Paul-Sebastian Manole]

@Miro Hadzhiev I have never experience lagging of any kind with the
64bit beta version of the Adobe Flash Player plugin and I've used it
since it came out. I used it on Lucid too.

Computer specs are average:

Core 2 Duo E6550
Kingston Value RAM 2x2GB
nVidia GeForce 7 with nVidia closed source driver
Compositing has been on and off. I do report some problems when
compositing is on, like having to do Alt+TAB after switching some
videos to full-screen because the video opens in a separate window of
nspluginwrapper.bin somewhere behind everything else. This may be
related to the focus stealing prevention feature of some window
managers (I use KWin) and the inability of nspluginwrapper to
interface properly with the window manager or the X server.

On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Miro Hadzhiev (Хаджиев)
 wrote:
> I do not agree with Gabriel that the 64-bit version of the plug-in should be 
> used by default
> because if you watch very high quality video clip in full-screen the video is 
> lagging behind the sound a little bit
> and there are dropped video frames aslo on my HP NX9420 (Intel Core 2 Duo 
> T7200, ATI Mobility X1600 (RV515)).
>
> I have already filed a bug report at the Adobe Flash Player bug and
> issue management system.
>
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[Хаджиев]

I do not agree with Gabriel that the 64-bit version of the plug-in should be 
used by default 
because if you watch very high quality video clip in full-screen the video is 
lagging behind the sound a little bit 
and there are dropped video frames aslo on my HP NX9420 (Intel Core 2 Duo 
T7200, ATI Mobility X1600 (RV515)). 

I have already filed a bug report at the Adobe Flash Player bug and
issue management system.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Gabriel Bauman]

I've seen this on every AMD64 install I have, in both Karmic and Lucid.

In all cases, removing the Ubuntu flashplugin-installer and
nspluginwrapper packages, then manually installing the Adobe Labs 64-bit
native Flash plugin solved the issue.

See http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_64bit.html to grab it.

Once you've done this, clicks works normally in Flash. No more right
click - left click - left click dance.

The Flash 10 beta should probably be SRU-ed out to amd64 Karmic users
and packaged as default for amd64 Lucid.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Jan Pitann]

The /usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer workaround doesn't work for me.
But launching firefox directly with the GDK switch works:
export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=1 && firefox

BTW:
/usr/lib/nspluginwrapper/i386/linux/npviewer doesn't exist if you haven't 
installed the pack. 'nspluginwrapper'

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[janusz]

this solved for me this 
problem:https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash
amd64/9.10

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Lorenzo Delledonne]

@pablomme: you described the situation very well. However, I'm not sure
we shouldn't blame Gtk as well, since usually it's not good to break an
API so badly (except for a major version). This "Client Side Windows"
feature is causing serious issues, on my system at least, in many
applications (gnome-mplayer, totem, gnome-panel, evince, ...). Even the
official pygst tutorial was "broken" as of some weeks ago...

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[bullium]

Wow! That's what I call an explanation. I suppose I'll sit and wait on Adobe
like everyone else.

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:44 PM, pablomme 
wrote:

> > Is it a problem with GTK+ or ia32-libs?
>
> The big picture here is that GTK+ changed the way it does certain
> things, intentionally and as an improvement. What should happen then is
> that every piece of software that relies on GTK+ would be updated to
> cope with/take advantage of the new stuff. And so it has happened with
> all FOSS projects using GTK+. However, nobody but Adobe can change
> libflashplayer.so, and they haven't. That is THE problem, and THE
> solution lies with Adobe.
>
> Now, for workarounds. The GTK+ change came with the ability to revert to
> the old behaviour via environment variables. A possible workaround would
> be to modify web browsers (and everything else that uses
> libflashplayer.so) to set up their environment so that the GTK+ calls
> made from within the Flash player stick to legacy behaviour. Chromium
> (if the reports above are correct) has done this, others haven't.
> Remember that this situation is supposed to be temporary - one would
> expect Adobe to *eventually* fix libflashplayer.so - so it might not be
> worth for browsers to go through this.
>
> Another workaround is applicable to 64-bit systems, where a 32-bit
> libflashplayer.so is used (this is sub-optimal, and again nothing can be
> done because of Flash being proprietary). The interface between the
> 64-bit browser and the 32-bit plugin is nspluginwrapper. The 32-bit
> plugin then uses 32-bit libraries (including GTK+), which are gathered
> in this thing called ia32-libs. By modifying the nspluginwrapper
> scripts, one can directly modify the environment under which
> libflashplayer.so is run, without need to modify the browser itself.
>
> To answer your question, there is no problem with GTK+, there is a
> problem with Flash not being updated to cope with updates to GTK+. And
> ia32-libs simply mirrors the current versions of common libraries, it's
> not to be blamed either.
>
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[bullium]

Awesome, thanks for the clarification.

2010/3/2 Saïvann Carignan 

> "The reason upgrading ia32-libs exposed the problem is because the it
> contains the newer GTK+."
>
> That means GTK+ is the problem (or flash interaction with GTK+).
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[pablomme]

> Is it a problem with GTK+ or ia32-libs?

The big picture here is that GTK+ changed the way it does certain
things, intentionally and as an improvement. What should happen then is
that every piece of software that relies on GTK+ would be updated to
cope with/take advantage of the new stuff. And so it has happened with
all FOSS projects using GTK+. However, nobody but Adobe can change
libflashplayer.so, and they haven't. That is THE problem, and THE
solution lies with Adobe.

Now, for workarounds. The GTK+ change came with the ability to revert to
the old behaviour via environment variables. A possible workaround would
be to modify web browsers (and everything else that uses
libflashplayer.so) to set up their environment so that the GTK+ calls
made from within the Flash player stick to legacy behaviour. Chromium
(if the reports above are correct) has done this, others haven't.
Remember that this situation is supposed to be temporary - one would
expect Adobe to *eventually* fix libflashplayer.so - so it might not be
worth for browsers to go through this.

Another workaround is applicable to 64-bit systems, where a 32-bit
libflashplayer.so is used (this is sub-optimal, and again nothing can be
done because of Flash being proprietary). The interface between the
64-bit browser and the 32-bit plugin is nspluginwrapper. The 32-bit
plugin then uses 32-bit libraries (including GTK+), which are gathered
in this thing called ia32-libs. By modifying the nspluginwrapper
scripts, one can directly modify the environment under which
libflashplayer.so is run, without need to modify the browser itself.

To answer your question, there is no problem with GTK+, there is a
problem with Flash not being updated to cope with updates to GTK+. And
ia32-libs simply mirrors the current versions of common libraries, it's
not to be blamed either.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Saïvann Carignan]

"The reason upgrading ia32-libs exposed the problem is because the it
contains the newer GTK+."

That means GTK+ is the problem (or flash interaction with GTK+).

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[bullium]

So the problem does or does not reside in ia32-libs? Is it a problem with
GTK+ or ia32-libs?

On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Travis Watkins
wrote:

> The reason upgrading ia32-libs exposed the problem is because the it
> contains the newer GTK+.
>
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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Travis Watkins]

The reason upgrading ia32-libs exposed the problem is because the it
contains the newer GTK+.

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Re: [Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[bullium]

Create work, thanks for taking the time to pin point the issue so this
annoying bug can finally be squashed.

2010/2/22 Saïvann Carignan 

> Tarvis Watkins : I have a very important information in regards of this
> bug report, this seems to be a issue in ia32-libs. Here's how I come to
> this conclusion :
>
> 1. Install jaunty 64bit in virtualbox with 3D enabled (compiz) and install
> flashplugin-installer. (At this point, flash works correctly).
> 2. Change all occurence of "jaunty" to "karmic" in /etc/apt/sources.list
> and reload (apt-get update).
> 3. Install the last version of ia32-libs (will install karmic version over
> jaunty version that is already installed).
> 4. Open Firefox and try again on youtube.com (The bug appears for the
> first time).
>
> I've managed to identify this package by upgrading jaunty step by step
> until I could reproduce the bug, and once that I identified ia32-libs as
> the potential source of the bug, I repeated the operations from a clean
> jaunty 64bit install and I only upgraded ia32-libs, and the bug appeared
> again right after the upgrade of ia32-libs to karmic version, without
> upgrading any other packages in jaunty.
>
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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Saïvann Carignan]

Tarvis Watkins : I have a very important information in regards of this
bug report, this seems to be a issue in ia32-libs. Here's how I come to
this conclusion :

1. Install jaunty 64bit in virtualbox with 3D enabled (compiz) and install 
flashplugin-installer. (At this point, flash works correctly).
2. Change all occurence of "jaunty" to "karmic" in /etc/apt/sources.list and 
reload (apt-get update).
3. Install the last version of ia32-libs (will install karmic version over 
jaunty version that is already installed).
4. Open Firefox and try again on youtube.com (The bug appears for the first 
time).

I've managed to identify this package by upgrading jaunty step by step
until I could reproduce the bug, and once that I identified ia32-libs as
the potential source of the bug, I repeated the operations from a clean
jaunty 64bit install and I only upgraded ia32-libs, and the bug appeared
again right after the upgrade of ia32-libs to karmic version, without
upgrading any other packages in jaunty.

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Travis Watkins]

Please stop adding targets for this bug. It is a bug in flash or gtk+.

** Changed in: opera-browser
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Gerry C.]

** Also affects: opera-browser
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Travis Watkins]

** Package changed: compiz (Debian) => flashplugin-nonfree (Debian)

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Anders Kaseorg]

I’m assuming Gerry C. made a mistake (there isn’t even a new compiz in
karmic-updates at all), and restoring the Invalid status set by
mtecknology.

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Released => Invalid

** Changed in: compiz (Debian)
   Importance: Undecided => Unknown

** Changed in: compiz (Debian)
   Status: New => Unknown

** Changed in: compiz (Debian)
 Remote watch: None => Debian Bug tracker #548986

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Gerry C.]

Ubuntu karmic-updates

** Also affects: compiz (Debian)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Fix Released

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[Bug 410407] Re: Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

[Micah Gersten]

** Summary changed:

- Flash does not work correctly [READ DESCRIPTION]
+ Clicking on items in Flash player does nothing [READ DESCRIPTION]

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