[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-27 Thread lightrush
Setting the sound theme to No Sounds results in no sound notifications
in Empathy too and god knows what else... This one here is royal. Please
guys, please mod the sounds window with additional tab so we can select
what to play and what not similar to what was existent in Jaunty.
Alternatively please mod the Login Screen with a tick to remove this
sound. Ideally both of these. According to my limited knowledge these
are no hard tasks if you know the APIs being used. And you do. At least
some of you do.

Afterwards when GNOME decides to wipe this shame upstream - just remove
the hack and place the upstream version. If they release it in this
cycle..

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-23 Thread Cyberkilla
It wouldn't be so bad if the sound effect didn't play 3 second before
the login box even appeared. There isn't even a confusing command-line
way to resolve this, it seems.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-20 Thread rfurgy
To be honest we almost need a sound management system that does for all
the sounds like gnome art did for all the bling bling for the desktop. I
agree that sounds should at least be able to be turned off, but on the
other hand I'm one of those people that would like to customise the
sound theme so I and pick which Ogg sound effects I want in place for
each event.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-12 Thread emarkay
This bug is now addressing this issue:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-media/+bug/324700
I don't want to mark this as a dupe yet, and I also request that it be 
prioritized higher that "wishlist".
Thanks.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-10 Thread Gargouille
I tryed "sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconftool-2 --set /apps/gdm/simple-
greeter/settings-manager-plugins/sound/active --type bool false"

but it didn't work for me.

"sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconftool-2 --set
/desktop/gnome/sound/event_sounds --type bool false"

work well and it relatively clean.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-09 Thread Barry Warsaw
> 1) If you do not change the "Sound theme" to "No sounds", the "GNOME
Login Sound" entry in "Startup Applications" will > reactivate on its
own.

It sounds like this is the real bug then!  While hidden, it's nice to
see that this is possible.  If it weren't reactivated each time, the bug
would be solved.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread komputes
I was able to remove the login sound (not the drums but the successful
login sound) only by doing the following:

1) Go to System > Preferences > Startup Applications
2) Uncheck "GNOME Login Sound"
3) Right click the speaker icon (volume applet) and select "Sound Preferences"
4) In the "Sound Effects" change the "Sound Theme" to "No sounds"
5) Reboot

Result: No login sound

Note: 
1) If you do not change the "Sound theme" to "No sounds", the "GNOME Login 
Sound" entry in "Startup Applications" will reactivate on its own. 
2) I am guessing you would have to do this each user on the machine.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread mac_v
FWIW , the "Alert volume" option controls the sounds for these sounds ,
you can set it to mute or lower the volume to any level.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread emarkay
Another vote for NOT having this enabled by default - it should fall in the 
"Startup Sounds" category. 
Wouldn't it just be a simple task to remove it in the code where it is now and 
then add it to where the "Startup Sounds" preferences work?

There is no reason for this - libraries and late night reboots are 100%
proof!

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
you can try to use "sudo -u gdm dbus-launch gconftool-2 --set /apps/gdm
/simple-greeter/settings-manager-plugins/sound/active --type bool false"

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
> Both of those are excellent reasons to return to the previous version
of GDM in Karmic until this issue can be resolved.

those comments are not useful, there has been lot of testing and
integration work during the cycle and you can't roll back to other
technologies like that it would break suspend, hibernate, user switching
etc and would require to rewrite several desktop components

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread MP
@Oliver and Fabus: Both of those are excellent reasons to return to the
previous version of GDM in Karmic until this issue can be resolved.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread Fabus
remember Ubuntu's not being useful in class room and library scenarios
if you cannot disable the sounds!

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-08 Thread Oliver Grawert
note that the sound is essential for visulally impaired people, its one
part of the accessibility improvements we have over other distros. it
should not be removed by default.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread MP
I didn't mean to remove the sound file. I meant disabling GDM from
playing the sound.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread mac_v
I dont think removing the sound is ideal. 
AFAIK , it is the same sound which is used for alerts... which ask for 
overwrite confirmation, when using the "Save as..." option and the same file 
name already exists.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread MP
In the meantime, could we remove the sound for Karmic? It provides no
utility. We can add it back once upstream has resolved this issue.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread David Bensimon
I agree with Brian. Even more, users must have the ability to login
silently *and/or* to customize the sound. This is available in the
"Login Window" utility in jaunty but is a feature that has been removed
in karmic. Requesting that we give back the power of sound customization
to the user, both for system sounds (this bug) and session sounds ( Bug
#324700 ).

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread komputes
Upstream bug has been created and linked:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597731

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #597731
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597731

** Also affects: gdm via
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=597731
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for your bug report. The issue is an upstream one and it would
be nice if somebody having it could send the bug the to the people
writting the software (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME)

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs)

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Ubuntu is not the one which rewrote gdm and the update has been delayed
for over a year but the old version used old technologies so the update
made sense before the lts coming next cycle, comments about what distro
do or not is not really constructive there

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
I agree that this is a real issue, but ubuntu-sounds is certainly not
the correct package. ubuntu-sounds is simply a sound theme and isn't
responsible for any configuration. The bug could potentially be against
gnome-media which provides the binary 'gnome-volume-control,' but I
think the most likely candidate is GDM itself. This option should
probably be added to an extended 'gdmsetup'

** Package changed: xsplash (Ubuntu) => gdm (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: gdm (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

** Changed in: ubuntu-sounds (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Invalid

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread David Bensimon
** Changed in: ubuntu-sounds (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-07 Thread Brian Murray
** Tags added: regression-potential

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-01 Thread MP
@Harry: This is most certainly a bug. A necessary and working function
has been removed. This is a problem that is prevalent in the Linux
community. Distros remove perfectly functioning programs and replace
them with broken and insufficient replacements coupled with promises
that the replacement will one day be just functional and stable as the
prior working program. Regardless of the reasons for such actions, the
result is that the end-users suffer.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
Hi Harry, gotcha and thanks for the workaround.

I do think it's a deficiency that needs to be addressed.  I can
understand the desire for fewer knobs for the login screen, but try
booting a laptop surreptitiously during a talk and enduring the nasty
stares.  Like having your cell phone ringer on in the movie theater. :)

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-01 Thread Harry
Hi Barry,
Well I never said my way is an option, I only offered a workaround.
I offered a way to set any sound for examle to "system-ready" sound, 
immediately.

This is not a bug, the karmic alfa-6 (and beta) are meant to be like this.
But yes, I also think that it is a fair wish to say that a proper GUI is needed 
here.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-01 Thread Barry Warsaw
@Harry: i don't think that's a viable option for many reasons.  You
might actually want the sound for other purposes.

@MP: The problem as I see it is that there is no user accessible
configuration for this any more.  There was in Jaunty and earlier, but
no longer in Karmic.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-01 Thread MP
Isn't this a GDM bug?

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-10-01 Thread MP
This is a regression. Can we get it fixed in time for Karmic?

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-09-27 Thread Cody Russell
** Also affects: ubuntu-sounds (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: xsplash (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-09-27 Thread Harry
Sound theme sets one of the four alert sounds (bask, drip, glass or sonar). It 
does not change the system-ready sound.
One of the many workarounds to your wish is to go to (with root priviledge) the 
directory /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo and change the name of the file 
"dialog-question", for example to "dialog-question-backup".
Now the system-ready (drums) sound does play no more.

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[Bug 437429] Re: Cannot prevent login sound

2009-09-26 Thread Barry Warsaw

** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32502765/Dependencies.txt

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