[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-11 Thread roadSurfer
Result of "lspci -nn | grep VGA"
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 
[Mobility FireGL 9000] [1002:4c66] (rev 01)

Result of "glxinfo |grep vendor"
server glx vendor string: SGI
client glx vendor string: SGI
OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.

I have downgraded the mesa drivers to 7.4.0-ubuntu3.2 (the most recent I
could find).  This seems to have partially returned Jaunty performance,
but not quite.  Anything that involves true 3D (e.g Tux Race, Compiz
cube) really struggles and Flash performance very poor.

As this is a new install, I have no xorg.conf (it's my understanding
that this file is not used any more).

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-10 Thread Tormod Volden
Keith, please file a new bug using "ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-ati".

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-10 Thread Keith Howanitz
AGPSize did not help me, nor turning off all effects. Video card worked
well with 9.04. Fresh install of 9.10 resulted in a max resolution of
1152x864 - should instead be 1280x1024. Card info:

03:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 
(PCIE)]
03:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 [Radeon X300SE]

Downgrading drivers worked.

Wallpaper and everything was always visible, just had wrong resolution.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-10 Thread jacopoL
sadly the xorg.conf I posted yesterday leaded to compiz instability.
tried adding first "BusType" and then "MigrationHeuristic" with no luck.

downgrading libgl1-mesa-dri to version 7.5.1-1 seem to be the only
stable workaround for me.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-09 Thread Karel Marik
Sorry, I don't know if it is related but I have found following lines in my 
dmesg
---
[   37.915300] agpgart-via :00:00.0: AGP 3.5 bridge
[   37.915340] agpgart-via :00:00.0: putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode
[   37.915404] pci :01:00.0: putting AGP V3 device into 8x mode
...
[   99.878432] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8102000-f8112000
[   99.878449] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8112000-f8122000
[   99.878462] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8122000-f8132000
[   99.878474] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8132000-f8142000
[   99.878485] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8142000-f8152000
[   99.878510] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8152000-f8162000
[   99.878523] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8162000-f8172000
[   99.878534] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8172000-f8182000
[   99.878546] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8182000-f8192000
[   99.878557] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f8192000-f81a2000
[   99.878568] glxinfo:2086 freeing invalid memtype f81a2000-f81b2000


I am running following  xorg.conf
Section "Device"
 Identifier "my-radeon"
 Driver "ati"
 Option "AGPSize" "16"
EndSectio

However, I have another problem with my DVB card and maybe it is related
to it.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread jacopoL
just adding AGPSize 64 to my existing xorg.conf (taken from
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver) works for me, without
kms and without downgrading libgl1-mesa-dri.

I'm now using Extra Visual Effects at the same speed it was on jaunty
(or at least I can't notice differences in browsing, playing flash
video, etc).

---

Section "ServerLayout"
Option "AIGLX" "true"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen" 0 0
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]"
Driver  "ati"
Option  "AGPMode" "8"
Option  "AccelMethod" "EXA"
Option  "ColorTiling" "on"
Option  "AGPSize" "64"
BusID   "PCI:2:0:0"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection

---

** Attachment added: "lspci.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35392522/lspci.txt

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread Karel Marik
I don't know exactly how to determine video memory size, but I believe
it is an old 64MB card as card ID is R9200SE/64B/64M.

lspci gives

~$ lspci -v -v
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] 
(rev 01)
Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Device 320e
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- 
SERR- 

01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] 
(Secondary) (rev 01)
Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Device 320f
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- 
SERR-  doesn't work (black screen with compiz)
Option "AGPSize" "16" or "32" => desktop image is back.

I didn't test another options as "BusType", "AccelMethod" or
"MigrationHeuristic". Just let me know if it is needed.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread bjaglin
I have a T40p: Radeon Mobility 9000 with 64MB:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 
[Mobility FireGL 9000] [1002:4c66] (rev 02)

"AGPSize" "8" does not solve the problem. "AGPSize" "16", "32" or "64"
does. Flash rendering was jerky (at least with Compiz), so I had to add
"BusType" "PCI" (same problem as tastyracer). Too early to say if
everything is fine, but it does look like performance is good and the
system is stable.

Thanks Tormod!

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
With this board:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280
[Radeon 9200] [1002:5961] (rev 01)

The right setup for me is:

modeset disabled

and the following xorg.conf file:

---
Section "Device"
Driver "ati"
Identifier "Radeon 9200"
Option "BusType" "PCI"
Option "AGPSize" "64"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier"Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier"Default Screen"
Monitor"Configured Monitor"
Device "Radeon 9200"
EndSection
---

modeset  must be disabled in order to really have BusType and AGPSize
parameters taken into account.

Also, EXA should not be activated if I want good performance when
scrolling pages in firefox or chromium.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread tastyracer
Aaah...the simple fix didn't work fully - desktop effects perfect but
flash video in Firefox really jerky. I went back to bagl0312's xorg.conf
and it was fine

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread tastyracer
"lspci -nn | grep VGA" reports following:
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 
9200 PRO] [1002:5960] (rev 01)

Also 128MB, essentially identical to bagl0312

Fresh install of Karmic - I had tried all other suggestions but these
screwed it up too much so thought I'd start again and wait for a proper
fix. Just setting AGPsize seemed so simple and easily-reversed - and it
worked.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread bagl0312
I found that if I decrease the AGPSize to 32 I can get rid of some
options.

The following is the minimal set:

Section "Device"
Driver "ati"
Identifier "Radeon 9200"
Option "BusType" "PCI"
Option "AGPSize" "32"
EndSection

It is strange that I have to put a so low AGP size since my card should
have 128MB of memory:

lspci -vv gives the following:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] 
(rev 01)
Subsystem: Hightech Information System Ltd. Device 2020
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- 
SERR- 
Kernel modules: radeon, radeonfb

I can open a new bug if needed

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread Tormod Volden
It is useful if everybody posting results also includes the output from
"lspci -nn | grep VGA" and the amount of video RAM they have.

Since different workarounds are needed among you, there must be several
issues mixed into this report. Bagl0312, I think you should open a new
bug report since you need all these options.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread bagl0312
Putting simply:

 Option "AGPSize" "32"

as suggested by Tormod doesn't work for me.
gnome-appeareance-properties refuses to switch desktop effects on.

If I add:
Option "BusType" "PCI"
desktop effects can be enabled but gdm is unstable: the screen gets all black 
if I open a few firefox windows.

Increasing AGPSize to 64 works but I get a kernel panic few minutes
after logon if I open several windows.

To have a stable system I have to put all the options below in the
Device section:

Section "Device"
Driver "ati"
Identifier "Radeon 9200"
Option "BusType" "PCI"
Option "AccelMethod" "EXA"
Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
Option "AGPSize" "64"
EndSection

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-08 Thread Karel Marik
Reply to Termod Volden 

Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]
(Secondary) (rev 01)

Option "AGPSize" "8"  => doesn't work (black screen with compiz)
Option "AGPSize" "16" or "32" => desktop image is back

BTW - what AGPSize setting is correct? How do I determine it?

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-07 Thread tastyracer
Fantastic, changing the AGPSize worked perfectly for me (Radeon 9200)

The fix suggested by by bagl032 also worked, but Tormod's seems so simple I'm 
guessing it goes to the real heart of the problem.
Thanks guys

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-07 Thread Tormod Volden
I would be interested to know if upping the AGPSize helps for everybody
here, that is, use an xorg.conf with only this (on otherwise default
packages of course):

Section "Device"
 Identifier "my-radeon"
 Driver "ati"
 Option "AGPSize" "32"
EndSection

The default size is 8 for R100/R200 and 32 for R300 and up. You can try
16,32,64,128,256 at the expense of reserved system memory, so if you are
tight on RAM I would recommend to just go as high as you need.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-07 Thread jacopoL
two days ago I turned off kms and downgraded libgl1-mesa-dri to version
7.5.1-1 as bjaglin suggested. I didn't get a freeze, performances seem
to be slightly better than jaunty and I have no screen corruption. good
fix!

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-07 Thread ementos
Wow! Thanks, @bjaglin. It works great :)

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-07 Thread bagl0312
I have an old Radeon 9200 video card:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280
[Radeon 9200 PRO] [1002:5960] (rev 01)

I posted my xorg.conf configuration here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8263824#post8263824

it works perfectly for me, and graphics performance seem better than in
Jaunty

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-07 Thread roadSurfer
Thanks bjaglin, I followed your steps and performance seems to have
improved a bit.  Compiz benchmark now reports 130+fps (which is what I
had under Jaunty) but Tux Racer is still down at 2fps (I can't recall
what is was under Jaunty) so I think there are still underlying
problems.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-07 Thread Dominik
@bjaglin

Your solution is... complex, especially regarding the obtaining of the
mesa packages and locking them. The libgl1-mesa-dri/libgl1-mesa-glx
packages can be easily obtained from packages.ubuntu.com. I wrote a
short explanation of how to "fix" the problem in bug 385539 and a more
detailed expalanation here: http://www.ode2.com/?p=44

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-04 Thread bjaglin
I forgot to mention that this workaround is not perfect: when using
Compiz, the windows rendering content using hardware acceleration leave
a trail (old content not redrawn) when you move the window and/or are
not rendered are rendered on only one workspace (sometimes not the one
you would like) when the window is on a side/corner and has pixels in
another workspace. Some apps such as Google Earth behave therefore
strangely when the window is placed on a corner, but at least no HW
freeze as I was getting doing that on a freshly installed Karmic.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-04 Thread bjaglin
Could someone change the title? It does not seem to be specific to
Radeon 7500, but applies to all R200 chipsets from what I can see here.
Still reproducable with the latest xorg-edgers.

For those who are looking for a workaround that does not introduce
performance hit, result in tearing, or require a change in
resolution/bit depth, you can have a look at bug #433173 and bug #420599
which, to me, sound like duplicates to this one. This does not use KMS,
but just an old version of the DRI module for Mesa. It is always
unfortunate to have to revert to a previous version, but that is the
best alternative I have to enjoy Karmic, so here is a step by step,
tested on a T40p (Radeon Mobility 9000 [RV250]):

1. Download the latest version you can find of libgl1-mesa-dri on the 7.5 
branch. It looks like it is not easy to get a .deb anymore, so I uploaded the 
one I am using (retrieved from the Debian squeeze repositories a few weeks ago):
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/2114917/libgl1-mesa-dri_7.5.1-1_i386.deb

2. Install it using dpkg:
sudo dpkg -i libgl1-mesa-dri_7.5.1-1_i386.deb

3. Restart your X server. If you are using gnome:
sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

At that point the bug should be fixed and the performance be back to
Jaunty level. If it is not, just run sudo apt-get upgrade to revert your
changes. If it works and you want to keep this solution, the next
problem is that the newer version of libgl1-mesa-dri will appear in the
upgrade list each time you want to upgrade your packages and override
the package that you installed manually. There is a way to tell apt to
stay with a specific version using Pin:

1. Edit /etc/apt/preferences. This file might not exist on your system.
sudo gedit /etc/apt/preferences

2. Append the following lines:
Package: libgl1-mesa-dri
Pin: version 7.5.1-1
Pin-Priority: 1001

>From now on, any specific update on libgl1-mesa-dri will be ignored.
When the bug is fixed, KMS gets more stable, or another package require
a newer version of libgl1-mesa-dri, just remove the /etc/apt/preferences
file (or the lines you added if the file was already present) and run
sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade to get the latest version
from the ubuntu repositories.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-04 Thread Ramesh Rajaby
If I can add my 2 cents, with my Radeon 9200SE setting the color depth
to 16 solves it. Animation performance are terrible, anyway, much worse
than on Jaunty.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-01 Thread Peter Jacobs
Just another confirmation, also with a Radeon 9200.  Enabling KMS fixes
this, but introduces mild font corruption.  Interestingly, the
corruption isn't present to begin with, and grows worse over time.
Reloading X or restarting clears it up again, for a while.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-11-01 Thread Karel Marik
(coming from 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/460013
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/368219)

I can confirm this for Radeon 9200SE - black screen and no icons when
visual effects are on. It worked fine in 8.10 or 9.04 with proprietary
driver. I am ready to put here any listing or screen shot if necessary.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-31 Thread Erik Corry
I'm seeing this on Karmic 32 bit.

Resolution is 1680x1050.  I'm using the DVI output.

lspci output:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 662 Host (rev 01)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] PCI-to-PCI bridge
00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS964 [MuTIOL Media IO] 
(rev 36)
00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev 01)
00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 
Sound Controller (rev a0)
00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller 
(rev 0f)
00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller 
(rev 0f)
00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller 
(rev 0f)
00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 2.0 Controller
00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast 
Ethernet (rev 91)
00:06.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] 
(rev 01)
00:06.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO] 
(Secondary) (rev 01)

Switching off visual effects seems to help.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-31 Thread jacopoL
now I'm working with kms on and I'm getting occasional freezes, as
reported by other users here

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-31 Thread JaiBee
Workaround in #3 worked for me (Radeon 9200 PRO (rev 01)), thanks a lot!

Just run the following commands:


echo -e "##enable KMS Radeon\noptions radeon modeset=1" | sudo tee 
/etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf

sudo update-initramfs -k `uname -r` -u

sudo reboot

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-31 Thread jacopoL
confirmed here, after upgrading to karmic I had a black desktop and no
icons.

enabling kms fixed it (only if I also do update-initramfs after enabling
kms in modprobe.d), but sometimes I notice minor font corruption on some
letters.

DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
PciDisplay: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 
[Radeon 9200 SE] (rev 01)
RelatedPackageVersions:
 xserver-xorg 1:7.4+3ubuntu7
 libgl1-mesa-glx 7.6.0-1ubuntu4
 libdrm2 2.4.14-1ubuntu1
 xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2
 xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-31 Thread SpmP
After upgrade from Jaunty, had balck desktop background (with icons),
Enabling KMS resolved this, but now i have slight text corruption (sometimes).
 Compiz performance (with and without KMS) is crap. Very high fps for glxgears 
(5k, small) but in reality glx is kerky and tears.
 Thanks for the link to the fix!

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-30 Thread roadSurfer
(Coming from bug 421334)
I can confirm the same problem on an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 at 1400x1050.
This system was fine on Jaunty, just done a full install of Karmic and I now 
see this.
When Compiz is running, the Benchmark app reports very poor performance (circa 
11fps when it used to be 100+fps).
The KMS update had no effect.

As I am still new, not sure what other info to provide

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-29 Thread Dominik
Like I commented on bug 385539, I fixed this temporarily by installing
libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx from the Jaunty repositories.

I'm now getting

direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set)

and

OpenGL vendor string: Tungsten Graphics, Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R200 20060602 AGP 8x x86/MMX+/3DNow!+/SSE TCL
OpenGL version string: 1.3 Mesa 7.4

from glxinfo, and glxgears flicker.

Desktop effects are back to Jaunty-speeds, though. I thought I'd have to
go back to 9.04, but this should tide me over.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-27 Thread Emmanuel Pacaud
Let's begin this list. Here's my lspci output:

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 
9200] [1002:5961] (rev 01)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:5002]
Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- 
Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- 
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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-27 Thread Travis Watkins
It's too late to do this for the final release but if we get an accurate
list of card affected we could perhaps do it in an SRU. The real problem
is that, as we've seen with previous ATI blacklists, not every card with
the same pci id is affected. I don't know if that is the case for this
issue but we'd want to try to make sure one way or the other before
doing anything.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-27 Thread Emmanuel Touzery
for resolutions about 1024x768

=>

for resolutions above 1024x768

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-27 Thread Emmanuel Touzery
I think if it's not going to be fixed on time for 9.10 release (and it
looks that way) then probably a series of ATI r200 cards should get
blacklisted for 3d effects. Ideally they should be blacklisted only for
resolutions about 1024x768 if possible, since it seems that 1024x768 is
the maximum working resolution.

Note that even at 1024x768 or less there might still be freezes in 3d
that did not occur with 9.04, nobody tested this properly at this point.

I think a blacklist is needed and also maybe a mention in the release
notes. A black desktop gives a very bad first impression of ubuntu and
this is a clear regression from 9.04.

About my freezes, they occur with KMS at AGP8x (default), 4x and 2x. I
stopped at that point and also because of
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/454847 decided to give up on 3d support
on my graphics card for 9.10 (maybe I'll return to 9.04 I'll see).

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-25 Thread bgruber
Turning KMS on fixes this bug for me, introduces tearing. It also seems
to introduce freezes, though as Emmanuel Touzery wrote, it's hard to
know whether or not there would have been freezes without KMS.
radeon.agpmode=-1 fixes the tearing, but I'm still getting occasional
freezes.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-22 Thread Stephen H. Gerstacker
I have the same problem with a Radeon RV250 (Mobility FireGL 9000).  The
work around seems to work for me, but I get the tearing.

The bug #413259 solution seems to have fixed the tearing problem.

I'll also note that the compiz performance takes a hit without the
fixes.  The animations stutter a bit, but with the fix, the animations
are smooth.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-18 Thread Emmanuel Touzery
Well I turned on KMS and that also fixes the problem for me, and I don't
get artifacts however I got a freeze relatively quickly (using AGP as
well). Maybe I would have gotten it without KMS using 3d as well, I
don't know because I never used 3d for long, since the desktop is black.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-17 Thread Stefan Nagy
Regarding screen artifacts and font tearing after turing on KMS for
radeon see bug #413259.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-15 Thread Stefan Nagy
Turning KMS on didn't work for me either - I also got mangled fonts plus
other corruptions. I attach the output of dmesg, there are some error
messages like...

[15318.655652] i2c-adapter i2c-1: unable to read EDID block.
[15318.655657] radeon :01:00.0: LVDS-1: no EDID data

I wonder if we should open another bug, maybe at bugs.freedesktop.org,
to see which ATI chips are affected...


01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV250 
[Mobility FireGL 9000] [1002:4c66] (rev 01)

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-15 Thread marcobra (Marco Braida)
I forgot some details...

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY
[Radeon 7000/VE]

xserver-xorg-video-ati:
  Installato: 1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1
  Candidato: 1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1
  Tabella versione:
 *** 1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1 0
500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic/main Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-15 Thread marcobra (Marco Braida)
On Karmic Turning KMS don't solve. isn't working good, i get desktop background 
and icons but i get mangled font...
Please see the attached image...
Hth

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Re: [Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-14 Thread Arc "warthog" Riley
better yet, run apport on compiz/x11/etc so all the relevant info is
uploaded for you

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread Javier Rivera
_dan_: Yes I see. But you didn't state your graphic card and the bug was
hickjacked by people with ATI cards and this bug. Most of the info there
is Ati-related, and every comment but yours look related to this problem
with the ati drivers.

Sorry but it seems like the ati problem is way more common than yours,
and we (ati-users) steal you bug away. I still believe that you should
open another one. Please note clear in the new bug description your
video card.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread _dan_
As i stated earlier, i opened a bug report back in june for nvidia and
it was marked duplicate of this one. (Not by me).

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread Javier Rivera
Turning KMS on solved it for me.

_dan_ those bugs where ati specific before you commented on then. You
need to search or open a nvidia related bug.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread _dan_
My bug report about this issue with nvidia gfx card was marked duplicate
of this one.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread Javier Rivera
_dan_ this bug is *ati* specific, and it doesn't affect small windows.
It's solved with a workaround for the radeon drivers, so your nvidia bug
is a different one.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread Arc "warthog" Riley
This seems like a pretty serious bug to get fixed before release, many
more people will be affected by it who won't know how to find or apply
the above patch, or even think that reducing their screen resolution
could fix it.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread _dan_
Furthermore it does not only affect fullscreen apps, but also windows apps when 
there are 2 or 3 other windows open.
Its has the same behaviour as the "nvidia black window bug" from 1-2 years ago, 
plus the missing background.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-13 Thread _dan_
This is *not* ati specific, i have the exact same Problem with my Geforce 6M on 
my Laptop.
My Desktop nvidia is not affected.

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-09 Thread Bryce Harrington
** Tags added: karmic

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-09 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-driver-ati
   Status: Unknown => Confirmed

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[Bug 444139] Re: (Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual Effects on (Radeon 7500)

2009-10-08 Thread Bryce Harrington
Amaranth, I'm fairly sure this is a driver bug but since this was open
against compiz I'll leave a task open against it too in case you wish to
track it.  If not, you can close the compiz task.

** Also affects: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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(Needs KMS) Background and full screen apps don't show up when Normal Visual 
Effects on (Radeon 7500) 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/444139
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