[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2011-10-02 Thread Rolf Leggewie
** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Dapper)
   Status: Incomplete => Won't Fix

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-06-24 Thread Steve Beattie
** Tags added: patch patch-needswork

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-04-05 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Unsubscribing ubuntu-security-sponsors. Based on earlier comments, the
Dapper patch needs more work and testing. Leonel, please resubscribe
ubuntu-security-sponsors and set the status to 'NEW' when the changes
are complete. Thanks!

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-04-05 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Since all momentum was lost on this bug wrt intrepid and jaunty, I
rechecked the debdiff between hardy and intrepid and hardy and jaunty
and there are only whitespace changes. Being in universe and no bugs
were filed against the hardy update, I am copying this over now.

** Tags removed: verification-needed

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Dapper)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Leonel Nunez (leonelnunez)

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-04-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package squirrelmail - 2:1.4.15-4ubuntu0.3

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  * SECURITY UPDATE: (LP: #446838)
  * Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) in all
forms submissions
  * edited:
src/addrbook_search_html.php,src/addressbook.php,src/compose.php
src/folders_create.php,src/folders_delete.php,src/folders.php,
src/folders_rename_do.php,src/folders_rename_getname.php,
src/folders_subscribe.php,functions/forms.php,
functions/mailbox_display.php,src/move_messages.php,
src/options_highlight.php,src/options_identities.php,
src/options_order.php,src/options.php,src/search.php,
functions/strings.php,src/vcard.php
  * Fixes : CVE-2009-2964
- http://www.squirrelmail.org/security/issue/2009-08-12
- patches taken from upstream rev 13818
- patches applied inline
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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-04-05 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package squirrelmail - 2:1.4.15-3ubuntu0.4

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squirrelmail (2:1.4.15-3ubuntu0.4) intrepid-security; urgency=low

  * SECURITY UPDATE: (LP: #446838)
  * Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) in all
forms submissions
  * edited:
src/addrbook_search_html.php,src/addressbook.php,src/compose.php
src/folders_create.php,src/folders_delete.php,src/folders.php,
src/folders_rename_do.php,src/folders_rename_getname.php,
src/folders_subscribe.php,functions/forms.php,
functions/mailbox_display.php,src/move_messages.php,
src/options_highlight.php,src/options_identities.php,
src/options_order.php,src/options.php,src/search.php,
functions/strings.php,src/vcard.php
  * Fixes : CVE-2009-2964
- http://www.squirrelmail.org/security/issue/2009-08-12
- patches taken from upstream rev 13818
- patches applied inline
 -- Leonel NunezSun, 11 Oct 2009 21:33:16 -0600

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Jaunty)
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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-02-08 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Hardy and Karmic copied. Leaving the verification-needed tag for
Intrepid and Jaunty. Can someone please test Jaunty and Intrepid?

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-02-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package squirrelmail - 2:1.4.13-2ubuntu1.5

---
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  * SECURITY UPDATE: (LP: #446838)
  * Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) in all
forms submissions
  * edited:
src/addrbook_search_html.php,src/addressbook.php,src/compose.php
src/folders_create.php,src/folders_delete.php,src/folders.php,
src/folders_rename_do.php,src/folders_rename_getname.php,
src/folders_subscribe.php,functions/forms.php,
functions/mailbox_display.php,src/move_messages.php,
src/options_highlight.php,src/options_identities.php,
src/options_order.php,src/options.php,src/search.php,
functions/strings.php,src/vcard.php
  * Fixes : CVE-2009-2964
- http://www.squirrelmail.org/security/issue/2009-08-12
- patches taken from upstream rev 13818
- patches applied inline
 -- Leonel NunezSun, 11 Oct 2009 06:41:56 -0600

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-02-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package squirrelmail - 2:1.4.19-1ubuntu0.1

---
squirrelmail (2:1.4.19-1ubuntu0.1) karmic-security; urgency=low

  * SECURITY UPDATE: (LP: #446838)
  * Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) in all
forms submissions
  * edited:
src/addrbook_search_html.php,src/addressbook.php,src/compose.php
src/folders_create.php,src/folders_delete.php,src/folders.php,
src/folders_rename_do.php,src/folders_rename_getname.php,
src/folders_subscribe.php,functions/forms.php,
functions/mailbox_display.php,src/move_messages.php,
src/options_highlight.php,src/options_identities.php,
src/options_order.php,src/options.php,src/search.php,
functions/strings.php,src/vcard.php
  * Fixes : CVE-2009-2964
- http://www.squirrelmail.org/security/issue/2009-08-12
- patches taken from upstream rev 13818
- patches applied inline
 -- Leonel NunezSun, 11 Oct 2009 19:18:52 -0600

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Hardy)
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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-01-29 Thread Kees Cook
I can confirm that squirrelmail appears to be working from karmic-
proposed.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-01-21 Thread Stian Seland Olsen
Can now confirm that the Hardy package is working.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-01-19 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Can someone comment on whether these packages fix the problem and still
generally work? These packages cannot be copied to -security until
people verify they work for each release.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2010-01-19 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Stian, can you give more information, including versions and what "does
not work" for you?

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-18 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/hardy-proposed/squirrelmail

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/intrepid-proposed/squirrelmail

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/jaunty-proposed/squirrelmail

** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/karmic-proposed/squirrelmail

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-12 Thread Stian Seland Olsen
the patch to hardy seem that it does not work.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-12 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Leonel, for karmic I needed to update the distribution to karmic-
security and adjust the version to use ubuntu0.1. At this point, the
packages in -proposed need to be tested and commented on here. This bug
will follow the standard https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
from this point forward.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-12 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Pocket copied squirrelmail on Karmic to proposed. Please test and give
feedback here. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for
documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-12 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Karmic uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-
proposed/+archive/ppa/+packages.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-12 Thread Jamie Strandboge
ACK'd

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
 Assignee: Leonel Nunez (leonelnunez) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-12 Thread Jamie Strandboge
ACK'd

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
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Re: [Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Leonel Nunez

> Leonel, you get to be the first person to take part in the new
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SponsorsQueue process.
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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Leonel Nunez
new karmic debdiff with the  missing parts added


** Attachment added: "Karmic  DebDiff"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36706271/sqkarmic.debdiff

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Incomplete => New

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
To ubuntu-sru: if this passes the verification process, please also
pocket copy to -security. Thanks!

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Pasted a little too much in that last comment... The packages are ready
to test now.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Pocket copied squirrelmail for Hardy - Jaunty to proposed. The package
will build now and be available in a few hours. Please test and give
feedback here. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for
documentation how to enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Tags removed: security-verification

** Tags added: verification-needed

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Because this is a large patch, I am going to have it go through
-proposed for wider testing. I'll update the bug accordingly after it
finishes building in the ubuntu-security-proposed PPA.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Hardy - Jaunty uploaded to https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security-
proposed/+archive/ppa/+packages.

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   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
The karmic debdiff is missing a portion of the patch to src/compose.php.
Please review the whole patch, and when ready, attach a new debdiff to
this bug and set the Karmic task to 'New'. Thanks!

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Jaunty ACK'd

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2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Intrepid ACK'd

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2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Hardy ACK'd

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2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Leonel, you get to be the first person to take part in the new
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/SponsorsQueue process.

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Fix Released => Fix Committed

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Leonel Nunez
After patched builded and created the package

Tested the packages for some hours  on a test server and no problems
where found or regressions where found

The dapper version I could not apply 2 patches


** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Dapper)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: Incomplete => In Progress

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Dapper)
   Status: In Progress => Incomplete

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-12-11 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Leonel,

Thanks for the debdiffs and your hard work on this! Can you please
detail the testing performed as Marc requested? Once this is done we can
process your debdiffs. Marking Incomplete for now; please set back to
'In Progress' after you detail your testing.

Thanks again!

** Also affects: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: In Progress

** Also affects: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Dapper)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Dapper)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Dapper)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Hardy)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Intrepid)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Jaunty)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Status: New => Incomplete

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu Karmic)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-11-25 Thread Marc Deslauriers
Thanks for the debdiffs. The patch is quite big, please describe the
testing that was performed on each release.

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Marc Deslauriers (mdeslaur) => (unassigned)

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-11-13 Thread Marc Deslauriers
** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Leonel Nunez (leonelnunez) => Marc Deslauriers (mdeslaur)

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-10-12 Thread Leonel Nunez
Dapper debdiff
package builds , installs and worked fine.

The patches  to

search.php  line 240, has no place to patch.

http://squirrelmail.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/squirrelmail/branches/SM-1_4-STABLE/squirrelmail/src/search.php?r1=13818&r2=13817&pathrev=13818

and compose.php line 1032   introduces an error when reply,reply all, or 
forward messages.
leaved this line unpatched

http://squirrelmail.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/squirrelmail/branches/SM-1_4-STABLE/squirrelmail/src/compose.php?r1=13818&r2=13817&pathrev=13818


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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-10-11 Thread Leonel Nunez
intrepid debdiff
package builds,installs and works

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-10-11 Thread Leonel Nunez
karmic debdiff,
package builds installs and works fine.


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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-10-11 Thread Leonel Nunez
Hardy DebDiff , package builds installs and works ..

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-10-10 Thread Leonel Nunez
jaunty debdiff, package builds installs and works ..

Working on the intrepid,hardy,dapper I guess I must include Karmic too?


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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-10-09 Thread Leonel Nunez
It's a long patch .. working on it

** Changed in: squirrelmail (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Leonel Nunez (leonelnunez)

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[Bug 446838] Re: Multiple cross-site request forgery (CSRF) vulnerabilities in SquirrelMail 1.4.19 and earlier

2009-10-09 Thread Jamie Strandboge
Thank you for using Ubuntu and taking the time to report a bug.  This
package is in universe and is community supported. If you are able,
perhaps you could prepare debdiffs to fix this by following
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityUpdateProcedures.

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