[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-22 Thread Alfas
After every new release of ubuntu (the last I am trying now is 10.10) I
try openldap. Unfortunately every time I end up with the same result. It
does not work. I type in dpkg-reconfigure slapd and the result is the
same as mentioned at the top of this bug report - no password asked
configuration exits after first few questions. The only solution I found
so far is to switch to http://directory.apache.org/

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-22 Thread Alfas
After every new release of ubuntu (the last I am trying now is 10.10) I
try openldap. Unfortunately every time I end up with the same result. It
does not work. I type in dpkg-reconfigure slapd and the result is the
same as mentioned at the top of this bug report - no password asked
configuration exits after first few questions. The only solution I found
so far is to switch to http://directory.apache.org/

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-22 Thread Adam Sommer
Can you try purging slapd using apt-get purge slapd ?  The issue is that
using reconfigure will, I believe, leave modules loaded in slapd.  Thus when
you follow the instructions in the Server Guide you will need to account for
loaded modules, and modify the instructions appropriately.  There will be
errors in /var/log/syslog pointing you in the right directions.

Thanks for reporting your issues, you can also find help in #ubuntu-server
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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-20 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Does not work for lucid too. Error:

SASL/EXTERNAL authentication started
SASL username: gidNumber=0+uidNumber=0,cn=peercred,cn=external,cn=auth
SASL SSF: 0
adding new entry cn=module,cn=config
ldap_add: Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80)
additional info: olcModuleLoad handler exited with 1

This is for the documentation found for Ubuntu-Server. I do not see it
fixed, as stated in comment #10

Nearly anything related to ldap seems undocumented, or alt least
outdated if not wrong and error prone. Any docs I found refer to various
variants of backend.ldif all not working. This is quite bad, since
Ubuntu lucid is out since April 2010! It looks a lot like no one
considered to update necessary Howtos to make them work again.

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-20 Thread Thomas Schweikle

** Attachment added: backend.ldif as given by Ubuntu-Server docs
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/463684/+attachment/1703211/+files/backend.ldif

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-20 Thread Adam Sommer
Can you check /var/log/syslog for slapd related errors.


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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-20 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Does not work for lucid too. Error:

SASL/EXTERNAL authentication started
SASL username: gidNumber=0+uidNumber=0,cn=peercred,cn=external,cn=auth
SASL SSF: 0
adding new entry cn=module,cn=config
ldap_add: Other (e.g., implementation specific) error (80)
additional info: olcModuleLoad handler exited with 1

This is for the documentation found for Ubuntu-Server. I do not see it
fixed, as stated in comment #10

Nearly anything related to ldap seems undocumented, or alt least
outdated if not wrong and error prone. Any docs I found refer to various
variants of backend.ldif all not working. This is quite bad, since
Ubuntu lucid is out since April 2010! It looks a lot like no one
considered to update necessary Howtos to make them work again.

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-20 Thread Thomas Schweikle

** Attachment added: backend.ldif as given by Ubuntu-Server docs
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/463684/+attachment/1703211/+files/backend.ldif

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-10-20 Thread Adam Sommer
Can you check /var/log/syslog for slapd related errors.


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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-09-29 Thread nutznboltz
CentOS 6 + http://directory.fedoraproject.org/ FTW!

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-09-29 Thread nutznboltz
CentOS 6 + http://directory.fedoraproject.org/ FTW!

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-07-01 Thread trader...@yahoo.co.uk
Trying to get LDAP working on Ubuntu is my worst linux experience yet.
Still can't do it. Every tutorial a different, incomprehensible error
code. Hours and hours wasted. Someone needs to sort this can of worms
out.

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-07-01 Thread Thag
Pin it back to Jaunty...groan.

Package: slapd
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

Package: ldap-utils
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

Package: libldap-2.4-2
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

-Bruce


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:35 PM, trader...@yahoo.co.uk trader...@yahoo.co.uk
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 Still can't do it. Every tutorial a different, incomprehensible error
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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-07-01 Thread trader...@yahoo.co.uk
Trying to get LDAP working on Ubuntu is my worst linux experience yet.
Still can't do it. Every tutorial a different, incomprehensible error
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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-07-01 Thread Thag
Pin it back to Jaunty...groan.

Package: slapd
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

Package: ldap-utils
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

Package: libldap-2.4-2
Pin: version 2.4.15-1ubuntu3
Pin-Priority: 1100

-Bruce


On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:35 PM, trader...@yahoo.co.uk trader...@yahoo.co.uk
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 Still can't do it. Every tutorial a different, incomprehensible error
 code. Hours and hours wasted. Someone needs to sort this can of worms
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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-06-16 Thread Matthew Nuzum
** Changed in: ubuntu-website
   Status: New = Invalid

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2010-06-16 Thread Matthew Nuzum
** Changed in: ubuntu-website
   Status: New = Invalid

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-05-12 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 15:03:46 -, Adam Sommer wrote:
 The OpenLDAP instructions have been updated for Ubuntu Lucid, and they work
 for Karmic.  

I noticed that the Lucid version of the Ubuntu Server Guide is now
available on the web site:

  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

Nathan

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-05-12 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 15:03:46 -, Adam Sommer wrote:
 The OpenLDAP instructions have been updated for Ubuntu Lucid, and they work
 for Karmic.  

I noticed that the Lucid version of the Ubuntu Server Guide is now
available on the web site:

  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

Nathan

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread atom88
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html  
This documentation is still outdated when it comes to installing it.  The 
script does NOT request a password still?

Any updates as to when this document might be updated?

I would suggest making these docs. more wiki-like  Then, volunteers
who run into the issue and wish to update the docs on their own for the
benefit of the community may do so and everyone is happy.  There are
already 20+ messages on this bug alone.  These could have been turned
into productive time by updating the docs.

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread Adam Sommer
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, atom88 adam.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
 This documentation is still outdated when it comes to installing it.  The
 script does NOT request a password still?

 Any updates as to when this document might be updated?




The OpenLDAP instructions have been updated for Ubuntu Lucid, and they work
for Karmic.  After Lucid is released a SRU for the Karmic serverguide will
probably be done.  So the answer to your question is they should be updated
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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread atom88
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html  
This documentation is still outdated when it comes to installing it.  The 
script does NOT request a password still?

Any updates as to when this document might be updated?

I would suggest making these docs. more wiki-like  Then, volunteers
who run into the issue and wish to update the docs on their own for the
benefit of the community may do so and everyone is happy.  There are
already 20+ messages on this bug alone.  These could have been turned
into productive time by updating the docs.

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread atom88
I found this comment about why things were changed:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bug/447099

-- Mathias Gug math...@ubuntu.com Tue, 11 Aug 2009 14:48:56 -0400

There isn't a default LDAP directory admin password anymore. Instead the
cn=config tree is accessible when connecting as root using the SASL
external mechanism under the ldapi connection.

Example:

  sudo ldapsearch -Y EXTERNAL -H ldapi:/// -b cn=config

  status invalid

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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread Adam Sommer
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:23 AM, atom88 adam.hi...@gmail.com wrote:

 https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
 This documentation is still outdated when it comes to installing it.  The
 script does NOT request a password still?

 Any updates as to when this document might be updated?




The OpenLDAP instructions have been updated for Ubuntu Lucid, and they work
for Karmic.  After Lucid is released a SRU for the Karmic serverguide will
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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread Mathias Gug
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 02:23:51PM -, atom88 wrote:
 Any updates as to when this document might be updated?
 
 I would suggest making these docs. more wiki-like  Then, volunteers
 who run into the issue and wish to update the docs on their own for the
 benefit of the community may do so and everyone is happy. 

FWIW the Ubuntu server guide is available from a bzr repository. Anyone can
create a branch, update the documentation and submit a merge proposal [1].

[1]:
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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-29 Thread atom88

Thanks Mathias for the info. I'll look into becoming a contributor.

I found this how-to that solved my problem:
http://www.howtoforge.com/install-and-configure-openldap-on-ubuntu-karmic-koala

It has step-by-step instructions on how to create an admin user with a
password.

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-05 Thread Chris Bainbridge
The documentation for Karmic is still wrong:
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-05 Thread Chris Bainbridge
Also see bug #355400 - OpenLDAP doc page is horrible.

I found this forum post
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8161118postcount=6 and this
thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313472 to be useful in
getting a server up and running. It's a shame the Ubuntu documentation
is still incorrect as it appears to be confusing people.

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-05 Thread Chris Bainbridge
The documentation for Karmic is still wrong:
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-04-05 Thread Chris Bainbridge
Also see bug #355400 - OpenLDAP doc page is horrible.

I found this forum post
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8161118postcount=6 and this
thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313472 to be useful in
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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-03-15 Thread chandra
I think dpkg-reconfigure slapd still has issues as of today, and the doc
does not reflect, i have followed these steps to make it work again from
ground up.

http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/OpenLDAP

I think that the developers need to do a bit more of testing.

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-03-15 Thread chandra
Further more this has happened in server edition, i would expect that
the guys are a little more cautious when releasing the fixes for the
server edition.

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2010-03-15 Thread chandra
I think dpkg-reconfigure slapd still has issues as of today, and the doc
does not reflect, i have followed these steps to make it work again from
ground up.

http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/OpenLDAP

I think that the developers need to do a bit more of testing.

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2010-03-15 Thread chandra
Further more this has happened in server edition, i would expect that
the guys are a little more cautious when releasing the fixes for the
server edition.

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2010-03-11 Thread Graeme Humphries
Docs look better, but they also serve to highlight that the base config
should be more fleshed out. That's a lot of non-trivial steps to get to
a point where you can actually use your slapd install for something.

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2010-03-11 Thread Graeme Humphries
Docs look better, but they also serve to highlight that the base config
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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Sommer
Hello,

On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Tobias Bradtke
webwu...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Will things be easier with Lucid? Does someone know what is planned? I
 could not find much about that.

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on the documentation here:

  http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openldap-server.htmlAll
feedback is greatly appreciated.


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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-02-22 Thread Adrian Custer
Yes,

the current situation sucks. Unfortunately, it cannot all be laid at the
feet of Ubuntu. Like you, I spent a good week in a maze of twisty
passages where nothing worked. Then, painfully, I emerged from that mess
over a few weeks to get a working system.

The core issue is that LDAP has moved on while most of the available
documentation has not. Almost all the search accessible documentation is
based on the venerable 'slapd.conf' but OpenLDAP has moved to an
embedded Db. So, like an anthropologist, one has to sift through the
docs and try to figure out what is still relevant and what no longer
works. It's a hard slog. The #openldap irc channels sometimes helps.

Then, there's Ubuntu which silently transitioned from the older system
to the newer one without really considering the consequences for the
newbies like me who were getting their first dose of LDAP in the middle
of the transition. Ubuntu doesn't have infinite resources and made the
code transition without having the documenters who could at least put up
the flags warning that 'here be monsters'. Fixing it though, requires a
good documentation writer who will take on the task of writing a really
decent chapter. In itself, that's a couple of weeks of work.
Unfortunately, the cost of figuring things out takes so much time that
there's none left to 'volunteer' to fix the docs. (And my Gnumeric
manual is ever waiting for my spare documenter cycles.) So it never gets
fixed---such goes life in the collaborosphere.

So, good luck to you with your next distribution. You now also know that
newer LDAPs are working differently from the way things used to work so
you have a leg up when installing that.

all the best,
--adrian

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 01:36 +, murray wrote:
 I am sick of this.
 
 I have spent the last 4 days upgrading, installing, uninstalling trying
 really hard to get OpenLDAP to work on Ubuntu but I am just now giving
 up.
 
 For those who care to listen there are some reasons:
 
 1. I originally had it working on Edgy but when I went to test some
 stuff on Friday it was no longer working.  Plus I thought it was
 probably time for an update...
 
 2. The update had some moments but I eventually arrived at Karmic but
 along the way my slapd.conf wouldn't upgrade.
 
 3. No worries, I'll remove and install the package again.  Really really
 bad decision.
 
 4. The installation wouldn't work because the remove wouldn't delete the
 slapd.conf.  The remove was failing as was the install. I eventually
 deleted the slapd.conf manually so the remove and install would then
 work.  I was surprised that a new slapd.conf was never created.
 
 5. The configuration script asks just 3 questions when it clearly should
 be asking a whole lot more.  Nobody seems to know why it's not asking
 more but they think the documentation should be updated to reflect that
 the configuration will only ask 3 questions.  Duh!
 
 6. More googling and I found a step by step to getting the ldap server
 working.  Well, at least there were steps but I couldn't get them to
 work.  I needed some Berkeley database which I couldn't find anywhere,
 and I looked for other packages that utilised this bdb and tried
 installing them - I don't know if the database arrived or not but the
 LDAP script still failed with some error about the database, I think it
 was error (80) - really cool messages.  So my ldap server is like a
 beached whale without this database I thought that was what pre-
 requisites were for
 
 7. None of the ldapadd scripts worked and now the problems are just
 adding up...
 
 Wouldn't it be nice to have a piece of software that would load, provide
 some configuration options and then you could use a tool like
 LDAPExplorerTool2  to do the loading and searching functions.
 
 I'm a developer and my application operates as an LDAP client - I don't
 want to learn all of the intricacies of the LDAP server in order to test
 my application.  I want just the basics operating so I can test my app
 with a couple of use cases.
 
 I'm now completely turned off Ubuntu and will be heading off to another
 Linux derivative.
 
 Good bye.
 Murray


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2010-02-22 Thread yannickm
Murray's comments is exactly what I was expecting to happen, and what I
warned of in the bug i filled [442498].

As I mentioned, not everyone who wishes to use openldap is a system
administrator who wishes to setup a production ldap environment.

Many are people who need to use an ldap server, and who are NOT
interested in wasting hours and hours learning all the complexity of
openldap's cn=config

Those people will try ubuntu, waste time struggling to get it working,
give up and think 'ubuntu sucks'

What really is rubbing salt in the wound, is that this is NOT a question
of something that is missing and that needs to be added. it is *NOT* a
documentation problem (although documentation quality makes things even
worse)

The debconf script that would create a completely working-out-of-the-box
system EXISTED in the last version, and supported cn=config, and had all
the flexibility one might need since they were debconf-based.

So no extra work is required. This whole situation has been created due
to the REMOVAL of functionality that worked fine, at the cost of making
openldap UNUSABLE for a significant portion of people who who need it,
for NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER

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2010-02-22 Thread Graeme Humphries
I'm not as enraged as others here, but I agree with Yannick. If we had a
debconf based base configuration for cn=config, and removed it, then it
should be put back in. Clearly having it would be less problematic for
most users than not having it.

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2010-02-22 Thread Tobias Bradtke
** Tags added: regression-release

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2010-02-22 Thread Tobias Bradtke
Will things be easier with Lucid? Does someone know what is planned? I
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Re: [Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2010-02-22 Thread Adrian Custer
Yes,

the current situation sucks. Unfortunately, it cannot all be laid at the
feet of Ubuntu. Like you, I spent a good week in a maze of twisty
passages where nothing worked. Then, painfully, I emerged from that mess
over a few weeks to get a working system.

The core issue is that LDAP has moved on while most of the available
documentation has not. Almost all the search accessible documentation is
based on the venerable 'slapd.conf' but OpenLDAP has moved to an
embedded Db. So, like an anthropologist, one has to sift through the
docs and try to figure out what is still relevant and what no longer
works. It's a hard slog. The #openldap irc channels sometimes helps.

Then, there's Ubuntu which silently transitioned from the older system
to the newer one without really considering the consequences for the
newbies like me who were getting their first dose of LDAP in the middle
of the transition. Ubuntu doesn't have infinite resources and made the
code transition without having the documenters who could at least put up
the flags warning that 'here be monsters'. Fixing it though, requires a
good documentation writer who will take on the task of writing a really
decent chapter. In itself, that's a couple of weeks of work.
Unfortunately, the cost of figuring things out takes so much time that
there's none left to 'volunteer' to fix the docs. (And my Gnumeric
manual is ever waiting for my spare documenter cycles.) So it never gets
fixed---such goes life in the collaborosphere.

So, good luck to you with your next distribution. You now also know that
newer LDAPs are working differently from the way things used to work so
you have a leg up when installing that.

all the best,
--adrian

On Mon, 2010-02-22 at 01:36 +, murray wrote:
 I am sick of this.
 
 I have spent the last 4 days upgrading, installing, uninstalling trying
 really hard to get OpenLDAP to work on Ubuntu but I am just now giving
 up.
 
 For those who care to listen there are some reasons:
 
 1. I originally had it working on Edgy but when I went to test some
 stuff on Friday it was no longer working.  Plus I thought it was
 probably time for an update...
 
 2. The update had some moments but I eventually arrived at Karmic but
 along the way my slapd.conf wouldn't upgrade.
 
 3. No worries, I'll remove and install the package again.  Really really
 bad decision.
 
 4. The installation wouldn't work because the remove wouldn't delete the
 slapd.conf.  The remove was failing as was the install. I eventually
 deleted the slapd.conf manually so the remove and install would then
 work.  I was surprised that a new slapd.conf was never created.
 
 5. The configuration script asks just 3 questions when it clearly should
 be asking a whole lot more.  Nobody seems to know why it's not asking
 more but they think the documentation should be updated to reflect that
 the configuration will only ask 3 questions.  Duh!
 
 6. More googling and I found a step by step to getting the ldap server
 working.  Well, at least there were steps but I couldn't get them to
 work.  I needed some Berkeley database which I couldn't find anywhere,
 and I looked for other packages that utilised this bdb and tried
 installing them - I don't know if the database arrived or not but the
 LDAP script still failed with some error about the database, I think it
 was error (80) - really cool messages.  So my ldap server is like a
 beached whale without this database I thought that was what pre-
 requisites were for
 
 7. None of the ldapadd scripts worked and now the problems are just
 adding up...
 
 Wouldn't it be nice to have a piece of software that would load, provide
 some configuration options and then you could use a tool like
 LDAPExplorerTool2  to do the loading and searching functions.
 
 I'm a developer and my application operates as an LDAP client - I don't
 want to learn all of the intricacies of the LDAP server in order to test
 my application.  I want just the basics operating so I can test my app
 with a couple of use cases.
 
 I'm now completely turned off Ubuntu and will be heading off to another
 Linux derivative.
 
 Good bye.
 Murray


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2010-02-22 Thread yannickm
Murray's comments is exactly what I was expecting to happen, and what I
warned of in the bug i filled [442498].

As I mentioned, not everyone who wishes to use openldap is a system
administrator who wishes to setup a production ldap environment.

Many are people who need to use an ldap server, and who are NOT
interested in wasting hours and hours learning all the complexity of
openldap's cn=config

Those people will try ubuntu, waste time struggling to get it working,
give up and think 'ubuntu sucks'

What really is rubbing salt in the wound, is that this is NOT a question
of something that is missing and that needs to be added. it is *NOT* a
documentation problem (although documentation quality makes things even
worse)

The debconf script that would create a completely working-out-of-the-box
system EXISTED in the last version, and supported cn=config, and had all
the flexibility one might need since they were debconf-based.

So no extra work is required. This whole situation has been created due
to the REMOVAL of functionality that worked fine, at the cost of making
openldap UNUSABLE for a significant portion of people who who need it,
for NO BENEFIT WHATSOEVER

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2010-02-22 Thread Graeme Humphries
I'm not as enraged as others here, but I agree with Yannick. If we had a
debconf based base configuration for cn=config, and removed it, then it
should be put back in. Clearly having it would be less problematic for
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2010-02-22 Thread Tobias Bradtke
** Tags added: regression-release

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2010-02-22 Thread Tobias Bradtke
Will things be easier with Lucid? Does someone know what is planned? I
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2010-02-21 Thread murray
I am sick of this.

I have spent the last 4 days upgrading, installing, uninstalling trying
really hard to get OpenLDAP to work on Ubuntu but I am just now giving
up.

For those who care to listen there are some reasons:

1. I originally had it working on Edgy but when I went to test some
stuff on Friday it was no longer working.  Plus I thought it was
probably time for an update...

2. The update had some moments but I eventually arrived at Karmic but
along the way my slapd.conf wouldn't upgrade.

3. No worries, I'll remove and install the package again.  Really really
bad decision.

4. The installation wouldn't work because the remove wouldn't delete the
slapd.conf.  The remove was failing as was the install. I eventually
deleted the slapd.conf manually so the remove and install would then
work.  I was surprised that a new slapd.conf was never created.

5. The configuration script asks just 3 questions when it clearly should
be asking a whole lot more.  Nobody seems to know why it's not asking
more but they think the documentation should be updated to reflect that
the configuration will only ask 3 questions.  Duh!

6. More googling and I found a step by step to getting the ldap server
working.  Well, at least there were steps but I couldn't get them to
work.  I needed some Berkeley database which I couldn't find anywhere,
and I looked for other packages that utilised this bdb and tried
installing them - I don't know if the database arrived or not but the
LDAP script still failed with some error about the database, I think it
was error (80) - really cool messages.  So my ldap server is like a
beached whale without this database I thought that was what pre-
requisites were for

7. None of the ldapadd scripts worked and now the problems are just
adding up...

Wouldn't it be nice to have a piece of software that would load, provide
some configuration options and then you could use a tool like
LDAPExplorerTool2  to do the loading and searching functions.

I'm a developer and my application operates as an LDAP client - I don't
want to learn all of the intricacies of the LDAP server in order to test
my application.  I want just the basics operating so I can test my app
with a couple of use cases.

I'm now completely turned off Ubuntu and will be heading off to another
Linux derivative.

Good bye.
Murray

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2010-02-21 Thread murray
I am sick of this.

I have spent the last 4 days upgrading, installing, uninstalling trying
really hard to get OpenLDAP to work on Ubuntu but I am just now giving
up.

For those who care to listen there are some reasons:

1. I originally had it working on Edgy but when I went to test some
stuff on Friday it was no longer working.  Plus I thought it was
probably time for an update...

2. The update had some moments but I eventually arrived at Karmic but
along the way my slapd.conf wouldn't upgrade.

3. No worries, I'll remove and install the package again.  Really really
bad decision.

4. The installation wouldn't work because the remove wouldn't delete the
slapd.conf.  The remove was failing as was the install. I eventually
deleted the slapd.conf manually so the remove and install would then
work.  I was surprised that a new slapd.conf was never created.

5. The configuration script asks just 3 questions when it clearly should
be asking a whole lot more.  Nobody seems to know why it's not asking
more but they think the documentation should be updated to reflect that
the configuration will only ask 3 questions.  Duh!

6. More googling and I found a step by step to getting the ldap server
working.  Well, at least there were steps but I couldn't get them to
work.  I needed some Berkeley database which I couldn't find anywhere,
and I looked for other packages that utilised this bdb and tried
installing them - I don't know if the database arrived or not but the
LDAP script still failed with some error about the database, I think it
was error (80) - really cool messages.  So my ldap server is like a
beached whale without this database I thought that was what pre-
requisites were for

7. None of the ldapadd scripts worked and now the problems are just
adding up...

Wouldn't it be nice to have a piece of software that would load, provide
some configuration options and then you could use a tool like
LDAPExplorerTool2  to do the loading and searching functions.

I'm a developer and my application operates as an LDAP client - I don't
want to learn all of the intricacies of the LDAP server in order to test
my application.  I want just the basics operating so I can test my app
with a couple of use cases.

I'm now completely turned off Ubuntu and will be heading off to another
Linux derivative.

Good bye.
Murray

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2010-02-02 Thread Julián Alarcón
Please, check again this wiki help:
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

Still no updates.

** Also affects: ubuntu-website
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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2010-02-02 Thread Julián Alarcón
Please, check again this wiki help:
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html

Still no updates.

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2010-01-09 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-docs - 10.04.1

---
ubuntu-docs (10.04.1) lucid; urgency=low

  * First upload for lucid
  * General:
- Refresh pot files
- Changed 'Text Editor' to 'gedit Text Editor' LP: #442417 (Connor Imes)
  * Advanced-topics:
- Added link in advanced-topics to a description about Users and Groups in
  Debian systems. LP: #145055 (Connor Imes)
  * Hardware:
- Added mention of ext4 to hardware.xml and changed the mentioning of the
  default filesystem in Ubuntu from ext3 to ext4 LP #449667 (Connor Imes)
- Removed subsection in hardware about quirk-checker script - link was
  broken, script is outdated LP: #461158 (Connor Imes)
  * Keeping-safe:
- Updating instructions for automatic login for new GDM LP: #442676
 (Dean Sas)
- String adjustment (period inside of a quote tag), Scott Shields,
  LP: #496885
  * Internet:
- Changes remaining mention of flashplugin-nonfree to flashplugin-installer
  in web-apps.xml LP: #444546 (Connor Imes)
- Change some guimenu tags to guimenuitem tags in web-apps.xml to show
  arrows in HTML documentation instead of + signs LP: #453512 (Connor Imes)
- Removed reference to network-manager radio buttons, as radio buttons
  aren't used in this version of NM for wired networks (Jim Campbell)
- Aligned similar strings in 'internet' section to benefit translators;
  some small adjustments. LP: #460360 (Connor Imes)
  * Musicvideophotos:
- Fixed apturl for mtp-tools package in music.xml LP #452262 (Connor Imes)
- Improve ipod section, patch by Michael Fitzhugh. LP: #370085
  * Printing:
- Updated printer setup directions in printing section LP: #435510
  (Connor Imes)
- Fix scanning typo. Patch by Shane Fagan LP: #447250
  * Programming:
- Removed entire programming section LP: #414035 (Connor Imes)
  * Serverguide:
- Adjusted wording in serverguide package-management file to more
  clearly describe apticron.  LP: #473280 (Connor Imes)
- Updated LDAP section for changes to the Jaunty package.
  Fixes LP: #475492, LP: #459403, LP: #463684 (Adam Sommer)
- In OpenSSH section, .ssh/authorized_keys permissions should be
  600, not 644 LP: #491159 (Connor Imes)
- Replaced description of ebox Log Observer in serverguide with a real
  description of the event's purpose LP: #405926 (Connor Imes)
- Fixed IP example in serverguide's postfix configuration section
  LP: #495202 (Connor Imes)
- Include 'auto eth1' in interfaces file for static IP configuration
  LP: #441802 (Connor Imes)
- Fix for disabling Control-Alt-Delete in serverguide. Scott Shields,
  LP: #496465
- Typo fix, Scott Shields, LP: #497867
- PostgreSQL setup fix for config file pg_hba.conf, Scott Shields,
  LP: #492286
- Misc fixes in windows-networking section. Vikram Dhillon, LP: #462607
- Changes to RAID installation section LP: #428036, LP: #462719
  (Connor Imes)
- Fixes and adjustments to web-servers LP: #462621 (Connor Imes)
  * Switching:
- Replaced Pidgin with Empathy in applications-equivalents
  LP: #490980 (Connor Imes)
- Fixed misspelling of Rhythmbox (Connor Imes)
- Added note about FAT32 file size limit to Windows. Also removed comment
  of NTFS needing extra work since Ubuntu now supports it out of the box
  LP: #442111 (Connor Imes)
- Replaced explicit em-dashes with normal en-dashes LP: #493331
  (Connor Imes)
  * Windows:
- Menu entry correction, LP: #483149 (Jonathan Jesse)
- Two very small fixes in Windows migratingdata section
  LP: #493358, LP: #493843 (Connor Imes)
- Various updates to the Windows section on migrating data. LP: #492949,
  LP: #492951, LP: #492955, LP: #493166, LP: #493169 (Connor Imes)
- Further updates to the Windows section on preparing to switch and
  migrating data - specifically for transferring email
  LP: #493169 (Connor Imes)
- Add support for for exporting bookmarks in IE7 and IE8 LP: #442097
  (Shane Fagan)
- Added necessary step to exporting Outlook data in windows section
  LP: #493866 (Connor Imes)
- Ubuntu does have some fax support - adding link in glossary sections
  LP: #493346 (Connor Imes)
 -- Matthew East m...@ubuntu.com   Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:26:29 +

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-12-08 Thread Julián Alarcón
Please, check this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-
server/2009-August/003182.html

So, we must to update the docs.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html (DONE!!!)

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Custer
Hey Julián,

Thanks for doing that work. I have not had time to read your edits on
doc.ubuntu.com in detail yet, but want to add an issue worth mentioning
in these pages.

If one tries to create a second branch on the DIT, openldap wants to
store that in a separate backend. If we want to do this next to the
initial backend, on /var/lib/ldap2/ for example, then apparmor kicks in
to block slapd from writing to a directory it has not been authorized to
hit. The error message generated by openldap does not prove very helpful
---I was only saved by finding a message on the subject on the web.

It would be useful to mention that apparmour might become an issue for
any expansion of the DIT to a second backend. It would also be elegant
to explain how to modify apparmour correctly to allow this second
backend but that's getting far afield so I could understand mentioning
the issue and moving on. I personally hacked my apparmour quick and
dirty but am not working on a production server.

cheers, --adrian

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-12-08 Thread Julián Alarcón
Please, check this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-
server/2009-August/003182.html

So, we must to update the docs.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer
https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html
http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html (DONE!!!)

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-12-08 Thread Adrian Custer
Hey Julián,

Thanks for doing that work. I have not had time to read your edits on
doc.ubuntu.com in detail yet, but want to add an issue worth mentioning
in these pages.

If one tries to create a second branch on the DIT, openldap wants to
store that in a separate backend. If we want to do this next to the
initial backend, on /var/lib/ldap2/ for example, then apparmor kicks in
to block slapd from writing to a directory it has not been authorized to
hit. The error message generated by openldap does not prove very helpful
---I was only saved by finding a message on the subject on the web.

It would be useful to mention that apparmour might become an issue for
any expansion of the DIT to a second backend. It would also be elegant
to explain how to modify apparmour correctly to allow this second
backend but that's getting far afield so I could understand mentioning
the issue and moving on. I personally hacked my apparmour quick and
dirty but am not working on a production server.

cheers, --adrian

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-11-27 Thread Luis F. Lopez
As Alvin mentions (from bug 459403), a good howto that could be used to
update the official documentation is available at:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8161118#post8161118

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-11-27 Thread Luis F. Lopez
As Alvin mentions (from bug 459403), a good howto that could be used to
update the official documentation is available at:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8161118#post8161118

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-11-19 Thread Alvin
Also see bug 447099 and bug 459403

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2009-11-19 Thread Alvin
Also see bug 447099 and bug 459403

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-11-04 Thread Mathias Gug
** Summary changed:

- dpkg-reconfigure slapd wizard configuration isn't complete
+ openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

** Also affects: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Won't Fix

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Adam Sommer (asommer)

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[Bug 463684] Re: openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

2009-11-04 Thread Mathias Gug
** Summary changed:

- dpkg-reconfigure slapd wizard configuration isn't complete
+ openldap sections in ubuntu server guide not updated for packages in karmic

** Also affects: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: openldap (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Won't Fix

** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Adam Sommer (asommer)

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