[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
This bug was filed against a series that is no longer supported and so is being marked as Won't Fix. If this issue still exists in a supported series, please file a new bug. This change has been made by an automated script, maintained by the Ubuntu Kernel Team. ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 Title: Hard lockups with new kernels To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/475010/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
I guess I've never tried 2.6.32-XX in Karmic but I doubt it would matter. I updated my Karmic to Lucid as soon as the tool-chain was released. The random lockups continued for about 4 to 6 weeks and now they're non- existent. I'm sure it's an Xorg thing and I wish I had the knowledge and the backup hardware to pursue the culprit, but I have neither! -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
I have decided to try upgrading the kernel to see if this matter would resolve. I am now using r...@testmachine:~/Documents$ uname -a Linux Testmachine 2.6.33-020633rc5-generic #020633rc5 SMP Fri Jan 22 10:09:54 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux Will keep you guys updated. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
My current hardware: Mobo : Msi 790fx-gd70 Proc: Phenom2 x4 955 Black edition GPU: XFX 250 GTS model# GS250XYDFC Ram: Mushkin Model 996601 (4gig) uname -a Linux Testmachine 2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 17:01:44 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
I had another hard lockup today. Again I searched the var/logs and found nothing :( -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
I have this same experience with "system lockup." In my case, there are no changes to the screen from whatever desktop was in use. My panel clock shows seconds and the numbers stop changing. I become aware of the lockup when I cannot move the mouse cursor. In addition, I cannot make the "kernel magic keys" work to gather any information, nor can I use the CTRL-ALT-F[1-6] to switch away from X11 to a console. Uname -a shows: Linux mumbles 2.6.31-17-generic-pae #54-Ubuntu SMP Thu Dec 10 17:23:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux I have made not changes to the kernel config from whatever is deployed with the distro or through update-manager. I don't know enough to report anything else. My Workstation Details ** Emperor Linux Raven Tablet (Lenovo Thinkpad X61 Tablet) ** Ubuntu Karmic (v9.10) ** lshw description: Notebook product: 7764CTO vendor: LENOVO version: ThinkPad X61 Tablet serial: LVB7FTC width: 32 bits capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 smp-1.4 smp *=cpu description: CPU product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L7500 @ 1.60GHz vendor: Intel Corp. physical id: 6 bus info: c...@0 version: 6.15.11 *-memory description: System Memory physical id: 22 slot: System board or motherboard size: 4GiB *-display:0 description: VGA compatible controller product: Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: p...@:00:02.0 version: 0c width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: msi pm bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 resources: irq:28 memory:f800-f80f memory:e000-efff(prefetchable) ioport:1800(size=8) -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Thank you for your fast response! I have reviewed your posts on that bug and have decided to give your xorg ppa update a try. I added that repo and added those 16 packages you listed...reboot went fine ( everything still works :P ) and I will see how long this box runs without a lockup. I am still searching for a definitive answer and if I find anything I will let you and that bug thread know. Have a good weekend. On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 7:21 AM, londy wrote: > I haven't had a lockup for a month but I'm not sure it's actually fixed > or not. I've done two things since the last lockup that might have > increased the stability of my system. > > 1.) A couple of days after my last lockup, I upgraded my hard disk to a > larger one. There was nothing wrong with the old one, as far as I know, > I just needed more space. I never got any errors on the old disk and I > ran smartctl on it a two days ago and got no errors. > > 2.) When I installed my new disk I also installed openSUSE 11.2 and I've > been running that ever since. > > -- > Hard lockups with new kernels > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 > You received this bug notification because you are a direct subscriber > of the bug. > -- Ralph. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
I haven't had a lockup for a month but I'm not sure it's actually fixed or not. I've done two things since the last lockup that might have increased the stability of my system. 1.) A couple of days after my last lockup, I upgraded my hard disk to a larger one. There was nothing wrong with the old one, as far as I know, I just needed more space. I never got any errors on the old disk and I ran smartctl on it a two days ago and got no errors. 2.) When I installed my new disk I also installed openSUSE 11.2 and I've been running that ever since. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
In my case I'm quite sure it's an Xorg issue for a couple of reasons: (a) I've tried the Karmic kernel in Jaunty and it does NOT cause any Hangs / Freezes / Lockups. (b) Using the Xorg-edgers PPA dramatically reduced the number/frequency of lockups. I know that I "should" try to follow up on this by "purging" the xorg- edgers PPA and then waiting for the very next lockup and filing a bug simply by: Alt + F2 > ubuntu-bug xorg, but (while that's all simple enough) the "follow-up" is simply beyond my skill level and far too time consuming. Read the "X crash, lockup, freeze, exit, or doesn't start/shutdown" section here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Reporting And particularly: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing#Debugging%20Hangs%20/%20Freezes%20/%20Lockups It's also unrealistic for me to pursue that at this time because (a) frequent and random lockups are very hard on hardware and my only backup hardware right now is an old 333MHZ PII, and (b) due to their random, and yet sometimes frequent nature it makes it nearly impossible to complete any other work dependably while troubleshooting the problem. So for me the answer was to simply "give up" on Karmic and depend on Jaunty which has always been stable on my hardware (Hardy is also), and I'm also devoting as much time as possible to testing Lucid which so far doesn't appear to have the "hard lockup" issue for me. I know that's not an ideal situation but it's the only reasonable solution for me at this time. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
I am using 2.6.31-17_64 and I have had 2 lockups this week. Have been searching for an answer without luck. Have any of you guys figured this out yet? -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
After my last post, I updated to kernel 2.6.31-16 but that didn't help. I had another lockup today. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Dang, I just had another lockup. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
The lockups have dissipated without further action on my part. Thanks for your attention. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Ditto here! No lockups in either Karmic or Mint Helena with the Xorg crack PPA. I think I will however remove that and try the more stable version they advertise just to see what happens. It'll be a bit before I can do so though because I'm currently fighting a problem I created with upstart. I'm never happy until I've really broken something. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
It's been six days and I still haven't had a lockup. I longest I've gone without a lockup in karmic was 2-3 days, so I think it's fixed. Thanks for showing me that ppa, Erick. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Let me clarify the kernel I'm using. It's still 2.6.31-15, I didn't update to the one just released. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
It's way too early for me to say if it fixed it but I added the xorg- edger's ppa 2 days ago (on Karmic w/ newest official kernel) and I haven't had a lockup since. I also haven't updated anything from that ppa since then. I'm keeping my fingers crossed but knowing my luck I'll have a lockup five minutes from now. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
After three days no lockups for me with xorg crack pushers upgrades, but I also haven't used their newest updates, so I'm thinking in my specific situation that it was an xorg problem rather than a kernel problem. I can't however say this is a solution for you or anyone else. I'll wait a few days to see if this resurfaces and then search for related xorg problems on Launchpad. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Well, recently I tried using the Lucid kernel 2.6.32-5 and I was still experiencing lockups, so I removed that kernel and reverted to Karmic 2.6.31-15 and decided to give Xorg a look. What I did was use the xorg crack pushers PPA: https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa That upgraded all of the following: libdrm-intel1 (2.4.14-1ubuntu1) to 2.4.15+git20091125.6f66de98-0ubuntu0tormod~karmic libdrm-radeon1 (2.4.14-1ubuntu1) to 2.4.15+git20091125.6f66de98-0ubuntu0tormod~karmic libdrm2 (2.4.14-1ubuntu1) to 2.4.15+git20091125.6f66de98-0ubuntu0tormod~karmic libgl1-mesa-dri (7.6.0-1ubuntu4) to 7.7.0~git20091201+mesa-7-7-branch.f17dbe25-0ubuntu0tormod3 libgl1-mesa-glx (7.6.0-1ubuntu4) to 7.7.0~git20091201+mesa-7-7-branch.f17dbe25-0ubuntu0tormod3 libglu1-mesa (7.6.0-1ubuntu4) to 7.7.0~git20091201+mesa-7-7-branch.f17dbe25-0ubuntu0tormod3 mesa-utils (7.6.0-1ubuntu4) to 7.7.0~git20091201+mesa-7-7-branch.f17dbe25-0ubuntu0tormod3 xserver-common (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4.1) to 2:1.6.5+git20091107+server-1.6-branch.2dbcb06a-0ubuntu0sarvatt~karmic xserver-xorg-core (2:1.6.4-2ubuntu4.1) to 2:1.6.5+git20091107+server-1.6-branch.2dbcb06a-0ubuntu0sarvatt~karmic xserver-xorg-input-evdev (1:2.2.5-1ubuntu6) to 1:2.3.0+git20091107.a0f7f34d-0ubuntu0sarvatt4~karmic xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (1.1.2-1ubuntu7) to 1:1.2.0+git20091107.e6b1a4ef-0ubuntu0sarvatt2~karmic xserver-xorg-video-ati (1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1) to 1:6.12.99+git20091201.88a50a30-0ubuntu0tormod~karmic xserver-xorg-video-intel (2:2.9.0-1ubuntu2) to 2:2.9.0+git20091130.2.6729b508-0ubuntu0tormod~karmic xserver-xorg-video-nv (1:2.1.14-2ubuntu3) to 1:2.1.15~git20090911.0250f0d7-0ubuntu0tormod xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (1:0.2.903+svn758-0ubuntu1) to 1:0.2.904~svn814-0ubuntu0tormod xserver-xorg-video-radeon (1:6.12.99+git20090929.7968e1fb-0ubuntu1) to 1:6.12.99+git20091201.88a50a30-0ubuntu0tormod~karmic About 24 hours later and no more lockups, but I can't guarantee anything! This AM I disabled (but did not remove) that PPA (rejecting 3 new updates) just to see how things go. And of course we use different graphics drivers, but there are some common packages. No doubt there are some risks involved but for me Karmic is largely unusable otherwise so I'm willing to try almost anything within reason. Just be sure you read that whole page before proceeding, I don't want to be even remotely responsible for killing someone else's system! -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Well, I tested the zen kernel 2.6.32_rc8-1 in Arch Linux and got a lockup after a few hours. It looks like this bug won't be fixed for a while... -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
"When you experience these lockups, does your entire screen change to a single color?' No. "Which kernel version are you running on Jaunty that doesn't have these lockups?" I'm currently running Ubuntu Jaunty w/2.6.28-16 with no problems. "I hope we're experiencing the same bug and an expert can chime in to help us." Clearly it's not exactly the same bug, but similar. If you read through that Karmic dev thread I posted you'll see many variations. My point is that we have a huge problem with hard lockups that began sometime around Karmic (testing) and it needs to be solved! Your thread seemed like a good place to start since these hard lockups do not produce an automated bug sequence. I'm over being lazy about it! I'm going to PM folks that replied to my original thread in Karmic testing and see if they have some input. I started with Gutsy and I've never seen Ubuntu so unusable as I have with Karmic and I think the devs do want to know. Just be patient a bit and I'll do everything I can, I'd hope they'd be listening to me because I have been very responsible lately about posting results of updates fixing bugs, or marking bugs invalid if I discover a true fix. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Finally, I get a response! :) When you experience these lockups, does your entire screen change to a single color? Which kernel version are you running on Jaunty that doesn't have these lockups? I hope we're experiencing the same bug and an expert can chime in to help us. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
I have experienced the same behavior with Ubuntu Karmic beginning as far back as Alpha 6. I'm obviously not alone: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1276146 They are quite random in nature. I've experienced such lockups with web based apps and also simple text projects, whether Gedit or Abiword. They would occur as often as several times right in a row or as seldom as once a week. When they occur absolutely nothing works but powering off with the power button. Alas I was lazy, and since Jaunty had always been stable as a rock I just gave up on Karmic. (I multi-boot). The reason I'm fairly convinced this must be kernel related is that, since Karmic was largely unusable, I upgraded to Lucid (testing) as soon as the Toolchain was uploaded and I'm not experiencing these lockups with the Lucid kernel. Most recently I reinstalled Karmic for grub2 testing purposes and it's still largely unusable because of hard lockups. The first occurred performing the initial post-install updates which created a minor mess in itself. I then experienced another using Firefox. I have very simple hardware: VIA PC2500 mobo, w/C-7D cpu, VIA Unichrome gpu (no 3D), VIA VT8237 audio, w/2GB RAM. I decided I really should try to pursue this and I do have the time to do testing and provide info as needed, although you'll have to be explicit about what's needed, how to get it, how to post it, etc. We do need to fix this Koala killer! ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
Tested kernel 2.6.31-15. Crashed after two days. -- Hard lockups with new kernels https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/475010 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 475010] Re: Hard lockups with new kernels
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