[Bug 488911] Re: needs-packaging kdevelop3 (because kdevelop4 is low-quality beta)

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Thomas
There's nothing to keep. It's been removed and per policy cannot be re-
introduced.

** Changed in: kdevelop (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix

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[Bug 488911] Re: needs-packaging kdevelop3 (because kdevelop4 is low-quality beta)

2010-01-26 Thread liquidweaver
Wow, I wish the kdevelop team would wither make kdevelop4 work before throwing 
out support for kdevelop3. This is highly disappointing.
I and my team have been using kdevelop3 for a rather large in-house project 
(about 310k lines of code) and kdevelop4 breaks a LOT of stuff. I have 
developers who range from seasoned developers to fresh out of grad school - 
Jonathon Thomas' recommendation of switching to radically different development 
tools (with completely different workflows, I might add) simply isn't 
practical, logistically or otherwise when you have project deadlines to keep.

Would it be against the Ubuntu policy to keep kdevelop3 in the universe
or metaverse repository? I can easily point out projects of those that
are not actively maintained.

Our solution right now is to installed custom .deb packages for
kdevelop3 in Karmic, or keep Jaunty or switch to Debian.

Ouch.

** Changed in: kdevelop (Ubuntu)
   Status: Won't Fix = Incomplete

** Changed in: kdevelop (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Confirmed

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[Bug 488911] Re: needs-packaging kdevelop3 (because kdevelop4 is low-quality beta)

2009-11-29 Thread N7DR
OK. Has the person who set that policy actually tried to develop C++
code on karmic?

I'll have to go find a distro that supports developers, I guess :-( I
don't have time to waste on silliness. I have to produce working code.

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[Bug 488911] Re: needs-packaging kdevelop3 (because kdevelop4 is low-quality beta)

2009-11-29 Thread Jonathan Thomas
Qt Creator, vim, emacs and even Kate all work fine.

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[Bug 488911] Re: needs-packaging kdevelop3 (because kdevelop4 is low-quality beta)

2009-11-29 Thread N7DR
For some rather odd value of the word fine, yes, they do.

Not really relevant to trying to support large projects for server code
though, which was the point of my original report.

I'm still not sure why this policy has been applied to kdevelop when a
quick review of the official repositories indicates the presence of
plenty of unmaintained software, so it's clear that not only can
unmaintained software enter the repositories, it frequently does so.

Anyway, I've moved all the code development off Kubuntu now, so I
suppose it doesn't really matter. It just would have been nice to have
been warned about this before karmic came out, so the migration could
have been proactive instead of reactive.

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[Bug 488911] Re: needs-packaging kdevelop3 (because kdevelop4 is low-quality beta)

2009-11-28 Thread Jonathan Thomas
KDevelop3 is unmaintained, and Ubuntu policy states that unmaintained
software cannot enter the repositories.

** Changed in: kdevelop (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Won't Fix

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