[Bug 490935]

2020-01-28 Thread Com-ben-bucksch-bugmail
(In reply to Johannes Reiff from comment #95)
> hasn't there just been any volunteer to implement the feature?

Yes

> I have another use-case for this feature: Many scanners nowadays can send 
> emails with the scan attached. By default, though, these mails have a very 
> generic subject. Being able to change the subject from the mail client ... 
> allows finding particular scans later on.
> 
> I have been doing this in the past using the Header Tools Lite addon. This 
> addon, however, is not compatible with newer versions of Thunderbird.

100% exactly my problem as well. This makes scan to email very hard to
use. Everything has the same subject. Get 5 at the same time, and it's
impossible to manage. Scan to email is a widely advertized feature of
printers, so it's not a mainstream feature, and not marginal.

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[Bug 490935] Re: it is not possible to modify email subject

2020-01-26 Thread tellapu
I could download and activate the legacy WebExtension version of the add-on 
Header Tools Lite and it worked on TB 68.4.1:
https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/headertools-lite/

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[Bug 490935] Re: it is not possible to modify email subject

2020-01-26 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Importance: Wishlist => Medium

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[Bug 490935]

2020-01-26 Thread Vseerror
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2020-01-26 Thread Mshunfenthal
I second the motion to add an API to Thunderbird that would allow
changing the email subject in the folder list - not in the email itself,
just like the last addon.

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2020-01-26 Thread 3-miil-2
It has been over six years since the last real discussion took place and
almost two decades since the issue was created. Are there any objections
from the Thunderbird team or hasn't there just been any volunteer to
implement the feature?

I have another use-case for this feature: Many scanners nowadays can
send emails with the scan attached. By default, though, these mails have
a very generic subject. Being able to change the subject from the mail
client conveniently allows finding particular scans later on.

I have been doing this in the past using the [Header Tools
Lite](https://addons.thunderbird.net/de/thunderbird/addon/header-tools-
lite/) addon. This addon, however, is not compatible with newer versions
of Thunderbird. After looking through [Thunderbird's WebExtension
APIs](https://thunderbird-webextensions.readthedocs.io/en/68/), it seems
like editing an email's headers is no longer possible at all. It would
be great if we could get at least an API to modify (or create new)
mails.

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[Bug 490935]

2020-01-26 Thread Pascal-crb
I fully agree with ben.bucksch' comment: it is good practice to keep a trace of 
trace of what the original Subject line showed.
Sometimes I like to edit the email itself to add comments/annotations to make 
the content more (re-)usable for myself. In that case I explicitly indicate 
(eg. by 'keyword' like "_ANNOTATIONS") that this was an entry added after 
receiving the email.
This feature is not 'comfortably' provided by all my favorite mail-clients 
though ;-)

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[Bug 490935]

2013-12-11 Thread ThaiGringo
+1 for me. Still would benefit my use of Thunderbird for mail
storage/archival. My partner at work often sends empty subjects. It's
annoying as hell --- but what's even more annoying is having to keep
telling him. I'd prefer to just add a modified subject to the email with
a record in the email header as described by Charles. - Thx

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[Bug 490935]

2013-12-11 Thread Bugzilla2007
(In reply to Ben Bucksch (:BenB) from comment #88)

+1, I'd like to register my support for Ben's support of this bug :)

65 votes and 15 duplicates with consistent inflow over a large time span
are a good indication that "edit subject" feature has the potential of
adding significant value for many affected users.

Somebody care to search https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/
for user requests about this?

> Why this is important:
> 
> 1. You personally may not, but many users have fax->email services.

If you are suggesting that a larger or in any way significant percentage
of TB users use FAX-to-Email services, then imho that's a fiction from
the same ideosyncratic historic world where plaintext messages are still
so much the order of the day that we could just ignore the substantial
dataloss of formatting/styles inflicted on users of HTML messages by
your delivery-format "Auto-Detect" algorithm.

Having said that, I don't think small numbers of users for a given
feature is per se an argument against that feature; if we removed all
features each only used by small percentage of users, we would end up
removing large parts of TB feature set. On the contrary, I'd claim that
qualitative aspects like the degree of disturbance by lost ux-efficiency
should also matter. Which might apply to this bug: It's hard to tell how
many users would actually bother to edit subjects, but for those
affected by such problems, it's a significant interruption to their
workflows.

> For them, this feature is absolutely necessary.

+1

> 2. If people set bad subjects for important emails (e.g. by just hitting
> reply on an unrelated subject), I can either get angry at them (because I
> will not find it anymore in one week), or ask them to fix it in the future,
> or I can fix it myself in my mail store. The latter, however, I can only do
> with this feature.

+1

> 3. Many other people have wrong clocks on their computers, and Thunderbird
> sorts folders by the message send time that the sender put in. I recently
> received a mail which was exactly one month off. Completely confused me in
> the folder view. I can't fix it, without this feature. (Arguably,
> Thunderbird should sort better.)

This bug is only about editing subject; editing any other header fields
(like date) is not in the scope of this bug, and should not. It'll be
more than hard enough to just land "edit subject" in a generally
acceptable and functional manner (think IMAP), so expanding the scope of
this bug would be the perfect recipe for never landing anything.

> This is similar to "delete attachment" feature. That's also a feature that
> we didn't have for a long time, and some said we didn't want it, they said
> it's freaky and wrong. Finally, we added it -

+1, there seems to be some analogy of technicalities and historical
development.

> and it's indispensable, as it turned out.

OT: I have some doubts on that, given that the "delete/detach
attachment" feature still has bugs (like wrong icon for detached files)
without much activity from users iirc.

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[Bug 490935]

2013-12-11 Thread Ben-bucksch
Previous headers should be recorded as "X-Original-", e.g.:
  X-Original-Subject: Re: How are you?
  Subject: Appointment to discuss Bla project
If X-Original-Foo already exists, it is *not* overwritten.

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2013-12-11 Thread Charles
My .02 clad coins worth:

I might use this feature, but honestly, all I do now is simply forward
the email as an attachment to myself, with the new subject.

Since I don't do this very often, it isn't that big of a deal, but I
understand the argument for someone who may have a different workflow
from me.

That said, I would only support implementing this feature if the act of
modifying the email was recorded.

Ie, it adds a new header to the email, something like:

X-SubjectModified: OLD: Blahblah; NEW: blahBlahBlahBlah

In other words, the evidence (old subject) is still there.

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2013-12-10 Thread Ben-bucksch
Why this is important:

1. You personally may not, but many users have fax->email services. For
them, this feature is absolutely necessary. For a long time, I didn't
realize that there was an extension that allows it and works well, the
lack of which causing me a lot of pain.

2. If people set bad subjects for important emails (e.g. by just hitting
reply on an unrelated subject), I can either get angry at them (because
I will not find it anymore in one week), or ask them to fix it in the
future, or I can fix it myself in my mail store. The latter, however, I
can only do with this feature.

3. Many other people have wrong clocks on their computers, and
Thunderbird sorts folders by the message send time that the sender put
in. I recently received a mail which was exactly one month off.
Completely confused me in the folder view. I can't fix it, without this
feature. (Arguably, Thunderbird should sort better.)

This is similar to "delete attachment" feature. That's also a feature
that we didn't have for a long time, and some said we didn't want it,
they said it's freaky and wrong. Finally, we added it - and it's
indispensable, as it turned out.

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[Bug 490935]

2013-12-09 Thread Bugzilla2007
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2013-12-09 Thread Bugzilla2007
(In reply to Lee_Dailey from comment #85)
> this extension from paolo kaosmos does the job. it replaces the old
> headertools extension mentioned in comment 37 and is actively supported. 
> - Headers ToolsLight: edit Subject, Sender, Full source etc
> [Forum] http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2300561
> it seems like a good workaround until tbird finally includes the ability.

The addon can be downloaded from here (reported to work with TB24, and
actively maintained):

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/thunderbird/addon/header-tools-lite/

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2011-12-31 Thread Ld-bugzilla
howdy y'all,

this extension from paolo kaosmos does the job. it replaces the old
headertools extension mentioned in comment 37 and is actively supported.

- Headers ToolsLight: edit Subject, Sender, Full source etc
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=2300561

it seems like a good workaround until tbird finally includes the
ability.

take care,
lee

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[Bug 490935]

2011-10-27 Thread Beanladen
The editemailsubject extension is POP-only, no help for IMAP users.

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[Bug 490935]

2011-10-27 Thread S-seidel-x
This addon "editemailsubject" doesn't upload the changed subject to the 
IMAP-Server.
Changes are LOCAL only.

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2011-10-27 Thread wilfriedh
I just found the new extension (as of Sept. 2011) "editemailsubject"
(must be typed as written, without blanks, in Thunderbird's extensions
search). It allows to edit the subject displayed in the mailbox window
while preserving the subject in the message header. Exactly what I was
looking for.

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[Bug 490935]

2011-09-26 Thread Jim
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[Bug 490935] Re: it is not possible to modify email subject

2011-08-09 Thread tellapu
TB Header Tools 0.71 was great help to edit empty or useless subjects in
order to find an important email again. But unfortunately I have not
checked this forum before I upgraded to TB 5! Hopefully there will be
soon an new solution, otherwise I might downgrade again or use another
client.

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2011-07-13 Thread Bugzilla-kabsi
(In reply to comment #78)
> FWIW, I agree that the original subject should NOT be overwritten, as
> apparently happens with the MailTags suggestion listed above.

Sorry, my comment #73 may be misleading. MailTags does not overwrite the
subject in the mail header.

Instead it adds custom headers to allow you to set your own subject
line. This subject line will be displayed in message list pane (instead
of the original subject line) and regarded in searches. However, you can
always revert to the original subject line.

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2011-07-12 Thread Carol-kaynor
Point of information: MailTags does NOT overwrite the original subject.
The original subject displays when you view the message. The subject is
only changed in the mailbox listing.

I agree that the optimum implementation, which the original Eudora does
(I'm still running Eudora on my Mac and will do so until Lion) is the
ability to highlight the subject and change it. Eudora has an editable
subject line field at the top of the email message, as well as a
Subject: display within the email that retains the original subject.

Why is this so difficult?

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2011-07-12 Thread Procrastistamper
I am also looking for this for TB 5, and would like the same
functionality TB Header Tools had, and the stability of that original
add-on so my mail doesn't get hosed up as can happen with the
"unofficial hack", as it was called above.

FWIW, I agree that the original subject should NOT be overwritten, as
apparently happens with the MailTags suggestion listed above. The
optimum implementation IMHO would be the ability to highlight the
subject and just edit it right there (which even the nefarious Outlook
has). Second most optimum is the right-click option method, and last
(mildly inconvenient but worlds better than no option at all) is to
drill down for the option through the Message menu.

It would be most ideal to have this functionality in TB itself...and
even I'm okay with having to go into Config Editor to manually enable
it.

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2011-07-04 Thread wilfriedh
The TB Header Tools were not updated for a long time - the latest release on 
addons.mozilla.org is for TB 0.5-1.0 and the 7.1 "update" for TB 3.0 is just an 
unofficial hack. So it seems TB Header Tools will never be updated to TB 5.
I sometimes get messages without subject (from people in a hurry) and I want to 
be able to see what they are about when browsing the mailbox.
I

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2011-03-10 Thread Mileschap
I also have been using TB Header Tools and now on extension 7.1 which
has a basic problem in that when a msg is being viewed and I go to
View/Change Header Details, then the msg in focus is changed.  This can
make it very difficult to write the appropriate subject since it's
usually something included in the msg.

A good example of a daily change that is made is a msg from Cybernet
where the subject always is "CyberNet Technology News."  If such a msg
is to saved the actual content subject needs to be entered.   This is
needed for a later quick search to find the subject.  Of course, the
subject frequently needs to be changed in received business msgs as well
because writers frequently do not include a subject at all or the
subject is not related to the content.

As far as the various fields and minimal instructions with the
extension, I don't understand one iota so simply change the subject line
and happy I can do that.  It would certainly be appreciated if this
extension were to be incorporated into TB as a feature that could be
used by those who need it.

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[Bug 490935]

2011-01-09 Thread Bugzilla-kabsi
If this get's implemented, Gloda (global indexer) has to be informed
about the new subject entered by user. However, Gloda should not forget
the original subject.

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[Bug 490935]

2010-11-24 Thread Ben-bucksch
*** Bug 532153 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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2010-10-25 Thread Bugzilla-kabsi
MailTags implements overwriting of subject by adding proprietary headers
to mails.

Example:

> X-Mailtags: {
>"mailTagsAnnotation" : "Project Brainstorm: Req Meeting 2010",
>"mailTagsShowNoteAsSubject" : 1}

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2010-10-25 Thread Bugzilla-kabsi
Apple Mail and MailTags can do this.

MailTags provides keyword tagging and adding of notes to mails. Notes
can be set as subject. Full text search / Spotlight will find text in
notes, too.

See http://www.indev.ca/MailTags.html

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[Bug 490935] Re: it is not possible to modify email subject

2010-09-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: thunderbird
   Importance: Unknown => Wishlist

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[Bug 490935] Re: Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-16 Thread Micah Gersten
Revising actual upstrema bug

** Changed in: thunderbird
   Status: New => Unknown

** Changed in: thunderbird
 Remote watch: Mozilla Bugzilla #532153 => Mozilla Bugzilla #91106

** Summary changed:

- Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"
+ it is not possible to modify email "subject"

** Summary changed:

- it is not possible to modify email "subject"
+ it is not possible to modify email subject

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[Bug 490935] Re: Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-16 Thread Micah Gersten
Thank you for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the developers of 
the software.
I'm going to mark it as Triaged and wait for upstream to work on this. Thanks 
for taking the time to make Ubuntu better!  Please report any other issues you 
may find.

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #91106
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91106

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[Bug 490935] Re: Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-02 Thread Arnaudus
Since the bug has been forwarded upstream, I guess we can consider it as
confirmed.

** Changed in: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 490935] Re: Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-02 Thread Arnaudus
Actually, the bug has been marked as a duplicate in mozilla bugzilla.
The "top" bug is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195138.
However, it seems that it's taking the direction of a "WONTFIX", because
this is considered as data loss.

** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #195138
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[Bug 490935] Re: Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Johnston
Thank you for your bug report. This bug has been reported to the
developers of the software. You can track it and make comments at:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532153

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[Bug 490935] Re: Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-01 Thread Chris Johnston
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #532153
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532153

** Also affects: thunderbird via
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532153
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 490935] Re: Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-01 Thread picopico

** Attachment added: "XsessionErrors.txt"
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[Bug 490935] [NEW] Non properly a bug: it is not possible to modify email "subject"

2009-12-01 Thread picopico
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: thunderbird

Microsoft Outlook allows to modify "subject" of incoming emails. This is very 
very useful, especially when sender used a meaningless subject, or a simple 
dot. This feature should be very useful also in Thunderbird.
Thanks a lot

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
CheckboxSubmission: c44b5fa992c605c204076ccbc3a738b7
CheckboxSystem: b1865df84255b8716d3bcc269ff410d1
Date: Tue Dec  1 18:36:54 2009
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
Package: mozilla-thunderbird (not installed)
ProcEnviron:
 LANG=it_IT.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.31-15.50-generic
SourcePackage: thunderbird
Uname: Linux 2.6.31-15-generic i686

** Affects: thunderbird (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


** Tags: apport-bug i386

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