[Bug 507222] Re: Postgresql 8.3 no longer starting on upgrade to karmic

2010-01-29 Thread Martin Pitt
Usually update-manager has some special cases to not remove
postgresql-X.Y on upgrade, but this seems to have happened for you:

  Package: postgresql-8.3 (not installed)

Michael, does this special case need an update for 8.3/8.4?

** Package changed: postgresql-8.3 (Ubuntu) = update-manager (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Incomplete

** Summary changed:

- Postgresql 8.3 no longer starting on upgrade to karmic
+ Karmic upgrade removed postgresql-8.3

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[Bug 507222] Re: Postgresql 8.3 no longer starting on upgrade to karmic

2010-01-13 Thread slowtrain

** Attachment added: XsessionErrors.txt
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37863831/XsessionErrors.txt

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[Bug 507222] Re: Postgresql 8.3 no longer starting on upgrade to karmic

2010-01-13 Thread slowtrain
First, another frustration, then a solution, and then a complaint for
the Ubuntu team:

The other frustration: I tried to update my cluster from 8.3 to 8.4, but
it won't let me do so without 8.3 started up. So, now I'm really in a
fix--seems there's no way to get my data back out of 8.3.

Solution: Turn off 8.4 using something like boot-up manager. Next, from
the command line, issue this: sudo apt-get install postgresql-8.3 . This
reinstalls 8.3, but doesn't mess with the 8.3 data. Now, 8.3 can be
started up. It'll be possible to either continue using 8.3 or update
cluster to 8.4. Ta da!

Complaint: Here's the bind the 9.10 upgrade puts postgresql users in: It
apparently erases enough of 8.3 so it can't be started, but not so much
that a non-expert user can tell, either from command line or boot-up
manager, that 8.3 needs to be reinstalled (there's a warning during
installation about 8.3, but I ignored that when boot-up manager let me
turn 8.3 on and off). Also, when attempting to start 8.3, there are no
error messages to tip the user off that anything is wrong. In addition,
the fact that 8.3 has been partially removed means that data from 8.3
cannot be accessed and the data cluster can't be upgraded to the newly
installed 8.4.  8.3 can't be reinstalled from Synaptic.  I suspect many
users won't think they can do so from apt-get. This is an unnecessary
situation--I suspect 8.3 does not need to be uninstalled--that didn't
occur in previous version upgrades.

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