[Bug 521877] Re: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #537890 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537890 ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #41115 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41115 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #20) > It was chosen in order to make display of web pages using Xorg more consistent > with the way they get displayed on Windows, which by default assumes 96. It's called bug compatibility, and there's a knob in a browser for that already. -- 1400x1050@122, 1600x1200+1920x1080@varied -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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PLEASE stop reopening or discussing this in here. This is not a proper place for such discussion - this is not a forum or mailing list but bug reporting software and xorg developers concluded this is NOT A BUG. If you really want some changes in DPI area then please discuss it through proper channels like xorg@ mailing list (http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg) first. Thank you. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I've created feature request to add patch from comment 17: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41115 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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However you look at it this is a bug. Xorg changed from working to bogus and broken behaviour. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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PLEASE stop reopening or discussing this in here. This is not a proper place for such discussion - this is not a forum or mailing list but bug reporting software and xorg developers concluded this is NOT A BUG. If you really want some changes in DPI area then please discuss it through proper channels like xorg@ mailing list (http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg) first. Thank you. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Was it really fixed??? I can't find any related fixed in git's master. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I'm seeing this bug too with the nouveau driver: [ 745.858] (**) NOUVEAU(0): Display dimensions: (330, 210) mm [ 745.858] (**) NOUVEAU(0): DPI set to (129, 127) ... [ 745.892] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting screen physical size to 444 x 277 I noticed this after switching from the proprietary nvidia driver, and this is a *huge* regression for me. X should *not* try to fix bugs in some programs by lying to all of them. Right now I'm using "xrandr --fbmm" from my .xinitrc, but this is just an ugly hack -- I'll probably get back to nvidia next time I have to plug my laptop to a projector. Environment: Arch Linux x86_64, Linux 3.0.4, xorg-server 1.11.0. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Created attachment 51062 X log from 1.11.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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I'm seeing this bug too with nouveau driver. I've set DisplaySize to 474 296. At first it looks okay: [ 45437.510] (**) NOUVEAU(0): Display dimensions: (474, 296) mm [ 45437.510] (**) NOUVEAU(0): DPI set to (90, 90) and sets it to 96 dpi... [ 45437.530] (II) NOUVEAU(0): Setting screen physical size to 444 x 277 environment: Gentoo x86_64 Linux 3.0.4 Xorg Server 1.11.0 Nouveau DDX driver from GIT. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Please add an option (command-line or config file) to make the X server stop lying about the physical DPI of the display device. I understand all the arguments for pegging DPI at 96, but *I* still want my X server to report the actual DPI as read from the EDID. Maybe add an -autodpi command-line option? Or support "-dpi auto" with 96 being the default. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #27)
> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:58:07PM -0800, bugzilla-dae...@freedesktop.org
> wrote:
> > --- Comment #26 from Andrey Rahmatullin 2010-02-16
> > 22:58:04 PST ---
> > (In reply to comment #20)
> > > It was chosen in order to make display of web pages using Xorg more
> > > consistent
> > > with the way they get displayed on Windows, which by default assumes 96.
> >
> > Is it an official position of X.org developers? Is it documented anywhere?
>
> Sure, consider it an official position. I don't think it's
> unreasonable. Especially if you assume that lower-DPI displays are
> likely to be higher-resolution and thus physically huge, meaning that
> people sit further away from them, and that displays with a meaningfully
> higher DPI are almost always found in phones (as well as some laptops)
> these days, meaning that people hold them a great deal closer to their
> face.
>
> I do agree that being able to configure the reported DPI (or just Option
> "DontForce96DPI") would be entirely useful, but I can't see us changing
> anything in the near future, particularly if it breaks web page display.
> Saying 'well, don't go to that website then' isn't helpful to anyone at
> all, and makes us look like we value strict technical correctness ('but
> don't you know what the true definition of a point is?!?') over an
> actual working system. While we do value strict technical correctness,
> we don't value it to the point of crippling everything else.
Why are you trying to fix browser bugs in X?
If you want to fake the DPI to 96, that should be a configuration in
XRandr, or something, that people can easily disable, but it would be a
workaround, not a fix.
Setting a fixed DPI is completely and totally the wrong thing to do.
Say, my laptop's display has a DPI of 142, and then I plug my display of
101 DPI, the fonts will look completely different, and I would be forced
to change the font settings (if there are any).
Do you seriously think that people changing their font settings each
time they plug/unplug external displays is ideal?
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Take it from a typographer http://www.alistapart.com/articles/realfontsontheweb "We have a world of display devices that have standardized to report their exact resolution, the space it occupies, and thus the pixels per inch, a key to moving text typography forward." Who wants to break the news to him? Welcome to the past Mr. David Berlow. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #77) > (Chrome already does so, in a misguided attempt to force a constant ratio > between "px" and "pt" across all websites. Chrome does because it's built on WebKit, where 96 as the only possibility is the traditional Macintosh way, which became also the Internet Explorer default behavior back in v7 or v8. > Firefox still seems to respect the system DPI by default, AFAICT.) Since 2010/08/18 in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=537890 it only does so in the UI, not in web page content, where it now copies the IE, Chrome and Safari insanity. You can see the impact by using it to view both http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-windowg.html (old edition that worked as expected before that "fix"), and http://fm.no- ip.com/Auth/dpi-screen-window.html (modified version that can be accurate only in Geckos, Konq, and most old browsers). Its behavior can be impacted by two hidden preferences, layout.css.dpi (integer) & layout.css.devPixelsPerPx (a string parsed as a float), the former of which defaults to -1, and the latter to 1.0. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Retitling this bug, since it affects current X servers as well, though possibly only randr-1.2-capable drivers as mentioned in comment 63 and the immediately preceding comments. This needs fixing. Each time I set up a new system, I end up with incredibly tiny fonts, and I end up having to manaully fix (and hardcode) the DPI to use the correctly autodetected value. The server already has a flag to override DPI with a constant value (namely -dpi). It doesn't need a flag to go back to autodetection, because it needs to do that by default. Nothing needs the X server to hardcode 96 DPI; browsers can already do that if they want to. (Chrome already does so, in a misguided attempt to force a constant ratio between "px" and "pt" across all websites. Firefox still seems to respect the system DPI by default, AFAICT.) Meanwhile, having the correct DPI makes fonts have reasonable sizes, and makes "100% zoom" in various applications (such as evince) match the physical dimensions of a page. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #74) > Created an attachment (id=45751) [details] > 120 DPI full 1600x1200 desktop screenshot > > This demonstrates the current state of elevated actual DTE DPI affairs, as of > the release of openSUSE 11.4 about 5 weeks ago. Video chip is rv380. Driver is > radeon. 120 DPI is achieved exclusively via DisplaySize in xorg.conf. Note > that > all apps are using the same font for the UI (urlbars, main menu), but that web > browser viewports are of two schools: Thanks, I can confirm this with nouveau. However, as one can see in my attachment this has to be set for every monitor and then the correct Monitor section associated with the output. Kind of complicated if you often switch monitors... Wouldn't it make more sense to have a "UseEDIDDpi" option as already suggested above (and already used by nvidia)? Thanks, Andrei -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Created attachment 45875 setting DisplaySize -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Created attachment 45751 120 DPI full 1600x1200 desktop screenshot This demonstrates the current state of elevated actual DTE DPI affairs, as of the release of openSUSE 11.4 about 5 weeks ago. Video chip is rv380. Driver is radeon. 120 DPI is achieved exclusively via DisplaySize in xorg.conf. Note that all apps are using the same font for the UI (urlbars, main menu), but that web browser viewports are of two schools: 1-Those forcing 96 DPI (WebKit in Google Chrome 7.0.517.44 and Epiphany 2.30.6, Opera 11.01) 2-Those using the DTE's DPI. (Gecko pre-rv2.0 in Firefox 3.6.16, KHTML in Konqueror 4.6) Note that Gecko rv2+ also forces to 96 in the usual cases, but provides a workaround (mozmm) that allows pages to size to match DTE DPI, which http://fm.no-ip.com/Auth/Font/font-vera.html in the screenshots does, and means all of Firefox 3.x, SeaMonkey 2.0.x, Firefox 4.x & SeaMonkey 2.1x will render it the same if the DTE DPI is 96 or above. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #72) > (In reply to comment #50) > > We need an xorg.conf flag -- for example, NVIDIA has "UseEDIDDpi". > > Definitely. Is it that hard to implement? No. A patch was attached to this report a year ago. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #50) > We need an xorg.conf flag -- for example, NVIDIA has "UseEDIDDpi". Definitely. Is it that hard to implement? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #66) > Okay, I meant to post this a while ago and forgot, but the recent churn has > reminded me to do so. I'll start with the tl;dr: > > I don't think this bug matters anymore. > > It's been over a year since this bug was opened, and during that time I've > come to the conclusion that one should simply *always* specify DisplaySize in > xorg.conf. This bug does not affect any setups that have a DisplaySize for > each monitor: the only issue is DPI computation for monitors that have no > DisplaySize. Lets look at the situation beforn and after the change: > > With the old behaviour, computing the resolution from the EDID works only if > your monitor doesn't lie about its size (which happens far more often than > it should). Otherwise, you have to set DisplaySize. Yes, only when your screen is broken. > > With the new behaviour, things work fine as long as 96dpi is correct for > your monitor. Otherwise, you have to set DisplaySize. Which is not the case about half of the time, and is becoming increasigly rare. > > So regardless of which way we pick, some people need to add DisplaySize > directives to their xorg.conf. We could probably argue all day about which > way is "better", but I recommend a much simpler solution: grab a ruler and > put DisplaySize directives in your xorg.conf. I don't want to measure my screen every time I install Xorg somewhere. > > This bug was only a problem because the change broke working server > configurations (this sort of issue seems to happen all the time with the > X.org server). While breaking working setups is bad, I suspect that the vast > majority of people who ran into problems because of this bug have long since > updated their xorg.conf. At this point, changing it back will probably break > just as many setups for marginal utility. If the screen lies then you are free to take it and beat some of the manufacturer staff with it until they fix it. I suggest somebody with a 120+ dpi screen burns a bag of Xorg CDs an beats some Xorg developer with it until they fix the X server since they don't seem to respond to logical reasoning. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Why should it have to care about screen size? 100% zoom is supposed to be "app DPI matches screen DPI", it has nothing to do with the whole screen. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #67) > Let me disagree: I keep using my laptop either on a 17" monitor, or on a 21" > monitor, or on the internal LVDS. > > In both 17" and 21" monitor cases, I do want 100% zoom to really mean 100% > zoom, so I need correct DPI. I don't understand what you mean by "100% zoom", but I understand the need for correct DPI. > Your reasoning leads to having to modify xorg.conf each time I switch, which > means twice per day in my case... We can assign monitor sections per-connector for randr-1.2 drivers, so we can easily arrange for the LVDS to always be right (since you presumably never change which monitor is attached to it). So in the case where monitors are swapped regularly, I guess this still is a problem. I still think that changing the default behaviour now is a bad idea. So let's get a server option to enable autodetection. I think someone posted a patch for that earlier... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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> --- Comment #67 from Samuel Thibault
> 2011-02-13 14:27:50 PST ---
> In both 17" and 21" monitor cases, I do want 100% zoom to really mean 100%
> zoom, so I need correct DPI.
>
No, you need whatever app you're using to get the info about screen size
from somewhere it has a decent chance of being correct (randr), instead
of Display{Height,Width}MM.
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Let me disagree: I keep using my laptop either on a 17" monitor, or on a 21" monitor, or on the internal LVDS. In both 17" and 21" monitor cases, I do want 100% zoom to really mean 100% zoom, so I need correct DPI. Your reasoning leads to having to modify xorg.conf each time I switch, which means twice per day in my case... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Okay, I meant to post this a while ago and forgot, but the recent churn has reminded me to do so. I'll start with the tl;dr: I don't think this bug matters anymore. It's been over a year since this bug was opened, and during that time I've come to the conclusion that one should simply *always* specify DisplaySize in xorg.conf. This bug does not affect any setups that have a DisplaySize for each monitor: the only issue is DPI computation for monitors that have no DisplaySize. Lets look at the situation beforn and after the change: With the old behaviour, computing the resolution from the EDID works only if your monitor doesn't lie about its size (which happens far more often than it should). Otherwise, you have to set DisplaySize. With the new behaviour, things work fine as long as 96dpi is correct for your monitor. Otherwise, you have to set DisplaySize. So regardless of which way we pick, some people need to add DisplaySize directives to their xorg.conf. We could probably argue all day about which way is "better", but I recommend a much simpler solution: grab a ruler and put DisplaySize directives in your xorg.conf. This bug was only a problem because the change broke working server configurations (this sort of issue seems to happen all the time with the X.org server). While breaking working setups is bad, I suspect that the vast majority of people who ran into problems because of this bug have long since updated their xorg.conf. At this point, changing it back will probably break just as many setups for marginal utility. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Guess this is an invite to leave for Wayland or whatever. My current screen is 96 dpi (give or take a pixel) so I could care less but the moment I switch to a display with different resolution I will have to put up with this Xorg's insanity as well. If Xorg is going to be bug-compatible with Windows, and only Windows default settings, not Windows preinstalled by system integrators on all laptops with hi-res screens we can as well run ReactOS. The user experience will, again, be terrible, much worse than Windows. You should also add some (*((int (*)())0))(); to make it feel more like badly configured Windows. If you are really concerned that DPI alone is not doing the right thing then you should add a mechanism to adjust it per display type, not just flat force everything to some random bogus value. Eg. if you had a statistical study that says that people usually sit at a distance from LVDS which is about 2/3 the distance to TMDS then *leave the detected DPI alone* and add a *magnification factor* of 0.66 which modifies the reported DPI to be 0.66 of the actual DPI. Everyone can easily set to 1 if they want DTP-correct display and tune to a value that suits better their use of the system. This *also* handles displays that have non-square pixels correctly. You need a correct baseline to magnify from to get a magnification factor, not a brain damage factor. You can use the same magnification factor to set the resolution of something you think is a TV to flat 96dpi and still preserve the option to easily revert to the actual reported DPI. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #63) > The bug is marked general, not Intel. Various comments spoke of at least one > other chip prior to my MGA comment 58. Before your comment 58 reached my eyes, > I had to put that Intel host aside to work on the MGA host, so I used that to > demonstrate what I wrote in comment 58, that "always" is incorrect. Fair enough. > That said, I reread comment 6, which does indicate manual intervention via > config file or xrandr is normally required to achieve accurate DPI, normal > meaning ATI, Intel or NVidia, chips that have current version xrandr-supported > drivers. I don't want to push too much, but up until now all feedback to this bug has been (or at least this is how it reads to me): - autodetection of DPI is deprecated - 96 dpi ought to be enough for anybody :) Does this mean you agree that under normal circumstances the DPI should be the one detected from EDID and 96 is just a fall-back value in case auto-detection fails? Because I don't believe anyone here disagrees 96 should be uses as *fall-back*, we just don't want it *overriding* correctly auto-detected values. Thanks for reading, Andrei -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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The bug is marked general, not Intel. Various comments spoke of at least one other chip prior to my MGA comment 58. Before your comment 58 reached my eyes, I had to put that Intel host aside to work on the MGA host, so I used that to demonstrate what I wrote in comment 58, that "always" is incorrect. That said, I reread comment 6, which does indicate manual intervention via config file or xrandr is normally required to achieve accurate DPI, normal meaning ATI, Intel or NVidia, chips that have current version xrandr-supported drivers. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #60) > Created an attachment (id=43320) [details] > 86 DPI screenshot > > What do I win? :-) You posted a log with intel, but your screenshot says mga... Regards, Andrei -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #60) > Created an attachment (id=43320) [details] > 86 DPI screenshot > > What do I win? :-) AFAIK this issue affects RandR 1.2 capable drivers only, and unless I'm mistaken MGA is not such a driver. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877]
Created attachment 43320 86 DPI screenshot What do I win? :-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #58) > There may have been a time when that was the case, but this was filed by an > Intel video user long before KMS was required by the Intel driver. Obviously > from the attachment, using no xorg.conf, xrandr, xorg.conf.d/ or anything else > to force DPI, "always" is not the much more recent case. Display used is 20" > 4:3 1400x1050 Viewsonic several years old. >From your own log: [35.477] (**) intel(0): Display dimensions: (410, 310) mm [35.477] (**) intel(0): DPI set to (86, 86) ... [35.914] (II) intel(0): Setting screen physical size to 370 x 277 Which means: $ qalc '1400 / (370 mm to inch)' 1400 / (370 * millimeter) = approx. 96.108108 / in $ qalc '1050 / (277 mm to inch)' 1050 / (277 * millimeter) = approx. 96.281588 / in Wanna' bet 'xdpyinfo | grep reso' on your machine shows resolution:96x96 dots per inch ? :) Regards, Andrei P.S. I get the same "resizing" to 96 dpi with latest Xorg + nouveau from Debian unstable, so this is not limited to intel -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877]
Created attachment 43316 Xorg.0.log from server 1.9.3 using 86x86 DPI on i845G (In reply to comment #57) > Isn't this bug precisely about X.org *always ignoring* the hardware DPI value > from the EDID? There may have been a time when that was the case, but this was filed by an Intel video user long before KMS was required by the Intel driver. Obviously from the attachment, using no xorg.conf, xrandr, xorg.conf.d/ or anything else to force DPI, "always" is not the much more recent case. Display used is 20" 4:3 1400x1050 Viewsonic several years old. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #56) > (In reply to comment #55) > > Please use the correct dpi by default. > > If it doesn't, it's usually: > > 1-your distro's fault, or > 2-your hardware's fault, or > 3-your use of unequal DPI multiple displays, which is a complicated problem > for > X to deal with > > X automagic configuration will fall back to 96 if there's a problem with your > hardware supplying the info automagic needs to work, [...] Isn't this bug precisely about X.org *always ignoring* the hardware DPI value from the EDID? (as per comment #5 and comment #6 and commit http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/commit/?id=fff00df94d7ebd18a8e24537ec96073717375a3f ) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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(In reply to comment #55) > Please use the correct dpi by default. If it doesn't, it's usually: 1-your distro's fault, or 2-your hardware's fault, or 3-your use of unequal DPI multiple displays, which is a complicated problem for X to deal with X automagic configuration will fall back to 96 if there's a problem with your hardware supplying the info automagic needs to work, while many distros force 96, in part because it makes web browsers behave like Windows on a not insignificant number of web sites, and in another part because DTEs are behind the development curve on adapting fonts, icons and initial window sizes to high DPI displays. Resolution independence is needed, but not available, either from most web sites, or most DTE components. OTOH, as long as you're sticking to one display, you can force correct DPI via xrandr, xorg.conf.d/, xorg.conf, xinitrc, proprietary nvidia driver and/or several other documented ways if bothered by inaccurate automagic or distro forcing. If your distro maker is forcing 96, complain to it. Just because xorg.conf is not used by default does not mean you cannot use it to enjoy accurate DPI. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Please use the correct dpi by default. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Is this bug fixed in a newer release? A fix would be using the original behaviour or providing an option to revert to the original behaviour. I got a new monitor with 109 DPI yesterday and started to struggle with too small font sizes. I was not aware of this bug because my old monitor had approximately 96 dpi. In my opinion it is a wrong decision to not use the correct dpi of the device. This is the best choice one can make to get readable fonts. If one wants to consider the different viewing distance for projectors then the distance should be added as an additional option to the projector or to the X server such that the effective DPI can be calculated. Using a fixed value of 96 is plain wrong. It is also a problem that each tool starts to mess with the DPI settings: - X ignores the correct setting and uses 96 DPI - Firefox has its own DPI emulation - KDE has a setting for the DPI it should assume - For Scribus and Gimp one has to set the correct DPI in the settings. Relying on the server is no longer possible. - The latex beamer package assumes that slides are 15cm x 10cm to account for the larger viewing distance with projectors. Instead of having a simple central spot of DPI configuration the user has to cope with increased complexity. I also think that the website argument is not relevant. I've used a notebook for several years with 144 DPI. This was before the discussed changes and X used the correct DPI value. Some websites had problems with too small graphical elements compared to the font but I cannot remember that this made a website completely unusable. It scares me to imagine how the fonts would look like with 96 DPI on such a device. Finally I could always show Windows users that with X11 WYSIWYG is possible out-of-the-box while on their system the printout does not match the shown contents. With the introduction of this bug this is no longer possible. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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The correct DPI is needed for legibility when the same user uses the same font size settings on multiple monitors. When the user sets the base font size to be legible in on 1 monitor and then goes to another which has a higher (true) DPI he will get poorly legible fonts. The correct DPI is needed for WYSIWYG, which is a holy grail of desk top publishing (DTP). X Windows applications increasingly aspire to be suitable for DTP. Look into the future. Monitors have not attained the highest useful DPI. This is only going to become a more pronounced deficiency as monitors increase in DPI. In fact, I suspect that monitor DPI has been somewhat held back by lack of proper support for automatically setting DPI. If current common monitors were completely adequate, we would not care about antialiasing or font hinting so much. 1200DPI or higher is found in printers and I am inclined to think it is not completely a marketing gimmick. 96DPI printers are practically nonexistant. I used to make fun of how MS Windows could not manage to set the DPI correctly automatically, unlike my Xorg, to friends and co-workers. No one attempted to rebut it. Instead of being "compatible with old versions of MS Windows" better is "compatible with reality". Playing a hoax on programmers by default is a bad thing. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s
I notice the upstream bug report is closed as 'not a bug' - IOW forcing the dpi to 96 is by design. We were actually patching X to do the same thing before they started doing it there as well, so this is not something we're liable to want to change. Perhaps some better configuration logic in kde would help? ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/521877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Summary changed: - wrong screen size detected on X200s + [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: [gm45] wrong screen size detected on X200s -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Importance: Unknown => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: wrong screen size detected on X200s -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Importance: Medium => Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 Title: wrong screen size detected on X200s -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Description changed: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-intel HW: Lenovo ThinkPad X200s (12.1" 1440x900 screen) with 4500GMD graphics SW: up-to-date Kubuntu Lucid (installed Alpha2 today + dist-upgrade) I get proper KDE desktop, just the fonts are very small. I have found out that Display is detected with wrong physical size. xdpyinfo reports wrong size: screen #0: dimensions:1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters) resolution:96x96 dots per inch while xrandr reports correct size: LVDS1 connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 261mm x 163mm In Xorg.0.log, you can see both correct size being reported: (II) intel(0): clock: 74.1 MHz Image Size: 261 x 163 mm (II) intel(0): clock: 74.1 MHz Image Size: 261 x 163 mm I would like to point out that I did not have any similar problems in jaunty and karmic on the same laptop. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: amd64 Date: Sun Feb 14 21:08:26 2010 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 DkmsStatus: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory MachineType: LENOVO 74705HG Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-1ubuntu4 ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-13-generic root=/dev/mapper/plain-root ro quiet splash ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-13.18-generic RelatedPackageVersions: xserver-xorg 1:7.5+1ubuntu2 libgl1-mesa-glx 7.7-0ubuntu8 libdrm2 2.4.17-0ubuntu2 xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-1ubuntu4 SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-video-intel Uname: Linux 2.6.32-13-generic x86_64 dmi.bios.date: 12/19/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: 6DET38WW (2.02 ) dmi.board.name: 74705HG dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: Not Available dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: Not Available dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr6DET38WW(2.02):bd12/19/2008:svnLENOVO:pn74705HG:pvrThinkPadX200s:rvnLENOVO:rn74705HG:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable: dmi.product.name: 74705HG dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X200s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO glxinfo: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory system: distro: Ubuntu architecture: x86_64kernel: 2.6.32-13-generic + + [lspci] + 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2a42] (rev 07) + Subsystem: Lenovo Device [17aa:20e4] -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel Status: Unknown => Confirmed -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
Added Link to upstream. And set to confirmed. ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Also affects: xserver-xorg-video-intel via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Tags added: kubuntu resolution -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
It's not a bug it's a feature! :-( It sounds like you are experiencing upstream http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 . To be honest, I also don't understand why the xserver needs to lie about the display size. ** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #23705 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705 -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
As a workaround, I have put the following in my ~/.xsessionrc: xrandr --fbmm 261x163 || true This setups proper DPI and my fonts have proper size. -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] Re: wrong screen size detected on X200s
** Attachment added: "BootDmesg.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194947/BootDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: "CurrentDmesg.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194948/CurrentDmesg.txt ** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194949/Dependencies.txt ** Attachment added: "Lspci.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194950/Lspci.txt ** Attachment added: "Lsusb.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194951/Lsusb.txt ** Attachment added: "PciDisplay.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194952/PciDisplay.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcCpuinfo.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194953/ProcCpuinfo.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcInterrupts.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194954/ProcInterrupts.txt ** Attachment added: "ProcModules.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194955/ProcModules.txt ** Attachment added: "UdevDb.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194956/UdevDb.txt ** Attachment added: "UdevLog.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194957/UdevLog.txt ** Attachment added: "XorgLog.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194958/XorgLog.txt ** Attachment added: "XorgLogOld.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194959/XorgLogOld.txt ** Attachment added: "Xrandr.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194960/Xrandr.txt ** Attachment added: "setxkbmap.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194961/setxkbmap.txt ** Attachment added: "xdpyinfo.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194962/xdpyinfo.txt ** Attachment added: "xkbcomp.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/39194963/xkbcomp.txt -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 521877] [NEW] wrong screen size detected on X200s
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: xserver-xorg-video-intel HW: Lenovo ThinkPad X200s (12.1" 1440x900 screen) with 4500GMD graphics SW: up-to-date Kubuntu Lucid (installed Alpha2 today + dist-upgrade) I get proper KDE desktop, just the fonts are very small. I have found out that Display is detected with wrong physical size. xdpyinfo reports wrong size: screen #0: dimensions:1440x900 pixels (381x238 millimeters) resolution:96x96 dots per inch while xrandr reports correct size: LVDS1 connected 1440x900+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 261mm x 163mm In Xorg.0.log, you can see both correct size being reported: (II) intel(0): clock: 74.1 MHz Image Size: 261 x 163 mm (II) intel(0): clock: 74.1 MHz Image Size: 261 x 163 mm I would like to point out that I did not have any similar problems in jaunty and karmic on the same laptop. ProblemType: Bug Architecture: amd64 Date: Sun Feb 14 21:08:26 2010 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 DkmsStatus: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory MachineType: LENOVO 74705HG Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-1ubuntu4 ProcCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-13-generic root=/dev/mapper/plain-root ro quiet splash ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user) LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE= SHELL=/bin/bash ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-13.18-generic RelatedPackageVersions: xserver-xorg 1:7.5+1ubuntu2 libgl1-mesa-glx 7.7-0ubuntu8 libdrm2 2.4.17-0ubuntu2 xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-1ubuntu4 SourcePackage: xserver-xorg-video-intel Uname: Linux 2.6.32-13-generic x86_64 dmi.bios.date: 12/19/2008 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO dmi.bios.version: 6DET38WW (2.02 ) dmi.board.name: 74705HG dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO dmi.board.version: Not Available dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO dmi.chassis.version: Not Available dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr6DET38WW(2.02):bd12/19/2008:svnLENOVO:pn74705HG:pvrThinkPadX200s:rvnLENOVO:rn74705HG:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable: dmi.product.name: 74705HG dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X200s dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO glxinfo: Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory system: distro: Ubuntu architecture: x86_64kernel: 2.6.32-13-generic ** Affects: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug lucid -- wrong screen size detected on X200s https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/521877 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
