[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
** Tags added: lucid ** Tags removed: kernel-series-unknown -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
I too was experiencing this problem on Ubuntu 10.4 with my Western Digital 500GB My Book external hard drive connected via firewire. I can confirm that after manually patching the file my external drive is recognized by Ubuntu. (Note: installing Jerone's patch via command line would not work for me) -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Another test with Lucid Beta 2... I have migrated to the new firewire kernel stack and I have applied the above mentionned patch. In this case, I can use the firewire HDD. So here is the whole summary: 1. with Lucid Beta 2, firewire HDD is using the old kernel stack and is working out-of-the-box 2. if one wants to use the new stack, then one has to apply the above mention patch as well as following the Juju Migration Guide (http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration) -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
I had reported back in Bug #543488 that with Lucid, it was not possible to mount some firewire hard disks either with the old or new stack. I had made the test with Lucid Beta 1. Today, I'm updating the status with Lucid Beta 2: It is working out-of-the-box (without patch or other configuration), however Lucid Beta 2 is still using the old firewire stack by default. So I have tried to switch to the new kernel stack (just as i tried it on Karmic Bug #529524). However, this is still not working on Lucid Beta 2. See my report on the Bug #529524. N.B.: My firewire external HDD is a western digital MyBook with external power supply. I'm plugging it to a Lenovo Thinkpad T500 using a 6-pin to 4-pin firewire cable (the T500 has only a 4-pin plug). -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Just to let everyone know. The comment I made about a 2nd issue with udev was invalid. Had something in my other install. Though on my new install apport is giving a false error about the kernel. Though no errors reported in dmesg and the firewire drive is working fine (with the workaround fix). -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Confirming the workaround by Jerone to work, thanks! -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
** Tags added: patch -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Yes, this is probably an appropriate workaround (assuming it works, but it does look plausible) - but hdparm is (potentially) doing other things as well as enabling ATA passthrough, so I'd like to allow the active upstream discussion of this problem to proceed a bit longer before we slam a workaround into place. If there is no alternative by 10.04 final, then we can apply this. -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Here is a patch for the hdparm package. ** Attachment added: "hdparm_debian_udev_fix" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43361088/hdparm_debian_udev_fix -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
I've found, what I think, is a good solution to the problem for now. The hdparm udev rule that is launching hdparm. What hdparm is tyring to do is enable ATA passthrough for drives that claim to support it (most newer drives do). The problem is there doesn't seem to be proper kernel support or many drives really don't support it. What I have done is found a way to identify firewire & usb drives and tell the udev rule to not try and run hdparm to activate ATA passthrough. So changing /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm to: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="[sh]d[a-z]", \ ENV{ID_PATH}!="pci-*-ieee1394-*|pci-*-usb-*", \ RUN+="/lib/udev/hdparm" * This fix does expose a separate issue in udev for firewire drives. Udev tries to create a second symbolic link causing a kernel warning from sysfs. The drive works though. Will get this 2nd issue resolved also. Also here is a clip from the udev db of how the drive is exposed in udev: P: /devices/pci:00/:00:1c.4/:0d:00.3/fw-host0/0090a9236e69e657/0090a9236e69e657-0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0/block/sdb N: sdb W: 53 S: block/8:16 S: disk/by-id/ieee1394-0090a9236e69e657:0:0 S: disk/by-path/pci-:0d:00.3-ieee1394-0x0090a9236e69e657:0:0 E: UDEV_LOG=3 E: DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.4/:0d:00.3/fw-host0/0090a9236e69e657/0090a9236e69e657-0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0/block/sdb E: MAJOR=8 E: MINOR=16 E: DEVNAME=/dev/sdb E: DEVTYPE=disk E: SUBSYSTEM=block E: ID_SCSI=1 E: ID_VENDOR=WD E: ID_VENDOR_ENC=WD\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20 E: ID_MODEL=My_Book E: ID_MODEL_ENC=My\x20Book\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20 E: ID_REVISION=1028 E: ID_TYPE=disk E: ID_BUS=scsi E: ID_PATH=pci-:0d:00.3-ieee1394-0x0090a9236e69e657:0:0 E: ID_PART_TABLE_TYPE=dos E: UDISKS_PRESENTATION_NOPOLICY=0 E: UDISKS_PARTITION_TABLE=1 E: UDISKS_PARTITION_TABLE_SCHEME=mbr E: UDISKS_PARTITION_TABLE_COUNT=1 E: DEVLINKS=/dev/block/8:16 /dev/disk/by-id/ieee1394-0090a9236e69e657:0:0 /dev/disk/by-path/pci-:0d:00.3-ieee1394-0x0090a9236e69e657:0:0 ** Attachment added: "85-hdparm.rules" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43360124/85-hdparm.rules ** Changed in: hdparm (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: New => Confirmed -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
The issue here is the "hdparm" command is launched by udev. It then attempts to try to activate ata pass through. This then causes the drive to fail. bug 515023 But disabling hdparm from being lauched by udev gets around the issue. Then the drive works fine. I tested the latest hdparm (9.28) and still see it trying to do ata pass through. -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Renaming the file mentioned in #15 works for me as well, 05:00.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04) -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
@Jeremy Ok looks to be an issue with "hdparm" in user space. Can you test on a clean install of Lucid with the kernel currently shipping. ** Also affects: hdparm (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Please see bug 515023 -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
sudo mv /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.disabled fixes this issue for me. I am using the new firewire subsystem. jer...@hephaestus:~$ lsmod | grep firewire firewire_sbp2 15009 2 firewire_ohci 25343 0 firewire_core 51537 2 firewire_sbp2,firewire_ohci crc_itu_t 1715 1 firewire_core -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 543488 Lucid Beta 1 cannot use firewire hard disk -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 543488 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543488 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 543488 Lucid Beta 1 cannot use firewire hard disk -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
@Manoj I have a theory after some other partically related issues with a USB 3.0 drive found in a disscussion on the udev mailing list. Can you remove /lib/udev/85-hdparm.rules & reboot and see it works. It may be hdparm at fault? -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
** Changed in: oem-priority Status: New => In Progress -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
Looks like we are using the older firewire stack, I the older stack is reported not to work as well with the newer kernel (2.6.32). https://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Release_Notes#Linux_2.6.32 ((scroll up for 2.6.33 notes). I tried blacklising the old stack and using the new stack but I cant get to see the disks anymore. I will continue to look at this some more. -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
@Manoj Tried it out. Did not work. I've attached the dmesg. Still same issue can see the device .. but when something tries to access it it can't. Manoj also if you need a machine or device call me or email me. Can meet up and can let you borrow a device to try and get to the problem faster. ** Attachment added: "dmesg_firewire_fail_thinkpad_t410" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42415403/dmesg_firewire_fail_thinkpad_t410 ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Incomplete => Confirmed -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
@jerone can you please try the kernel in http://people.ubuntu.com/~manjo/lp548513-lucid/ and report back here? ** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
@Jerone - I was able to write to the disk. -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
@Jerone Unfortunately, I think the firewire disk we have here is the same one you have, so I'd expect the results to be similar -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
I've seen this issue with a Ricoh e832 firewire card. Same behavior (can see the disk in /proc/partitions though gparted cant see it and it can't be mounted). Attaching dmesg ** Attachment added: "dmesg.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42089732/dmesg.txt -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04
@Jeremy The drive requires an external power source, so tried that case. Also played around with powering it up and down. @Brian Actually are you able to mount and write to the disk? I saw this too with one system .. but when trying to access the disk it was actually unable to do it. -- Some firewire disks not working under 10.04 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/548513 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs