[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-13 Thread Andy Whitcroft
** Tags added: lucid
** Tags removed: kernel-series-unknown

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-13 Thread Matt Zimmerman
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-10 Thread Jeff
I too was experiencing this problem on Ubuntu 10.4 with my Western
Digital 500GB My Book external hard drive connected via firewire.

I can confirm that after manually patching the file my external drive is
recognized by Ubuntu. (Note: installing Jerone's patch via command line
would not work for me)

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-10 Thread Huygens
Another test with Lucid Beta 2...
I have migrated to the new firewire kernel stack and I have applied the above 
mentionned patch. In this case, I can use the firewire HDD.

So here is the whole summary:
 1. with Lucid Beta 2, firewire HDD is using the old kernel stack and is 
working out-of-the-box
 2. if one wants to use the new stack, then one has to apply the above mention 
patch as well as following the Juju Migration Guide 
(http://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Juju_Migration)

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-10 Thread Huygens
I had reported back in Bug #543488 that with Lucid, it was not possible
to mount some firewire hard disks either with the old or new stack. I
had made the test with Lucid Beta 1.

Today, I'm updating the status with Lucid Beta 2:
It is working out-of-the-box (without patch or other configuration), however 
Lucid Beta 2 is still using the old firewire stack by default.

So I have tried to switch to the new kernel stack (just as i tried it on
Karmic Bug #529524). However, this is still not working on Lucid Beta 2.
See my report on the Bug #529524.

N.B.: My firewire external HDD is a western digital MyBook with external
power supply. I'm plugging it to a Lenovo Thinkpad T500 using a 6-pin to
4-pin firewire cable (the T500 has only a 4-pin plug).

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-07 Thread Jerone Young
Just to let everyone know. The comment I made about a 2nd issue with
udev was invalid. Had something in my other install.

Though on my new install apport  is giving a false error about the
kernel. Though no errors reported in dmesg and the firewire drive is
working fine (with the workaround fix).

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-07 Thread Klaus Doblmann
Confirming the workaround by Jerone to work, thanks!

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-07 Thread Brian Murray
** Tags added: patch

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
Yes, this is probably an appropriate workaround (assuming it works, but
it does look plausible) - but hdparm is (potentially) doing other things
as well as enabling ATA passthrough, so I'd like to allow the active
upstream discussion of this problem to proceed a bit longer before we
slam a workaround into place.  If there is no alternative by 10.04
final, then we can apply this.

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-07 Thread Jerone Young
Here is a patch for the hdparm package.

** Attachment added: "hdparm_debian_udev_fix"
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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-07 Thread Jerone Young
I've found, what I think, is a good solution to the problem for now.

The hdparm udev rule that is launching hdparm.  What hdparm is tyring to
do is enable ATA passthrough for drives that claim to support it (most
newer drives do). The problem is there doesn't seem to be proper kernel
support or many drives really don't support it.

What I have done is found a way to identify firewire & usb drives and
tell the udev rule to not try and run hdparm to activate ATA
passthrough.

So changing /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm to:
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="block", KERNEL=="[sh]d[a-z]", \
ENV{ID_PATH}!="pci-*-ieee1394-*|pci-*-usb-*", \
RUN+="/lib/udev/hdparm"

* This fix does expose a separate issue in udev for firewire drives.
Udev tries to create a second symbolic link causing a kernel warning
from sysfs. The drive works though. Will get this 2nd issue resolved
also.

Also here is a clip from the udev db of how the drive is exposed in udev:
P: 
/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.4/:0d:00.3/fw-host0/0090a9236e69e657/0090a9236e69e657-0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0/block/sdb
N: sdb
W: 53
S: block/8:16
S: disk/by-id/ieee1394-0090a9236e69e657:0:0
S: disk/by-path/pci-:0d:00.3-ieee1394-0x0090a9236e69e657:0:0
E: UDEV_LOG=3
E: 
DEVPATH=/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.4/:0d:00.3/fw-host0/0090a9236e69e657/0090a9236e69e657-0/host6/target6:0:0/6:0:0:0/block/sdb
E: MAJOR=8
E: MINOR=16
E: DEVNAME=/dev/sdb
E: DEVTYPE=disk
E: SUBSYSTEM=block
E: ID_SCSI=1
E: ID_VENDOR=WD
E: ID_VENDOR_ENC=WD\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20
E: ID_MODEL=My_Book
E: ID_MODEL_ENC=My\x20Book\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20\x20
E: ID_REVISION=1028
E: ID_TYPE=disk
E: ID_BUS=scsi
E: ID_PATH=pci-:0d:00.3-ieee1394-0x0090a9236e69e657:0:0
E: ID_PART_TABLE_TYPE=dos
E: UDISKS_PRESENTATION_NOPOLICY=0
E: UDISKS_PARTITION_TABLE=1
E: UDISKS_PARTITION_TABLE_SCHEME=mbr
E: UDISKS_PARTITION_TABLE_COUNT=1
E: DEVLINKS=/dev/block/8:16 /dev/disk/by-id/ieee1394-0090a9236e69e657:0:0 
/dev/disk/by-path/pci-:0d:00.3-ieee1394-0x0090a9236e69e657:0:0


** Attachment added: "85-hdparm.rules"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43360124/85-hdparm.rules

** Changed in: hdparm (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-06 Thread Jerone Young
The issue here is the "hdparm" command is launched by udev. It then attempts to 
try to activate ata pass through. This then causes the drive to fail.
bug 515023 

But disabling hdparm from being lauched by udev gets around the issue.
Then the drive works fine.

I tested the latest hdparm (9.28) and still see it trying to do ata pass
through.

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-05 Thread Matthias Klose
Renaming the file mentioned in #15 works for me as well,
05:00.1 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-04 Thread Jerone Young
@Jeremy
   Ok looks to be an issue with "hdparm" in user space. Can you 
test on a clean install of Lucid with the kernel currently shipping. 

** Also affects: hdparm (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-03 Thread Jeremy Teale
Please see bug 515023

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-03 Thread Jeremy Teale
sudo mv /lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.rules
/lib/udev/rules.d/85-hdparm.disabled fixes this issue for me. I am using
the new firewire subsystem.

jer...@hephaestus:~$ lsmod | grep firewire
firewire_sbp2 15009 2
firewire_ohci 25343 0
firewire_core 51537 2 firewire_sbp2,firewire_ohci
crc_itu_t 1715 1 firewire_core

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-03 Thread Jerone Young
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 543488
   Lucid Beta 1 cannot use firewire hard disk

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-03 Thread Screatch
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 543488 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/543488

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 543488
   Lucid Beta 1 cannot use firewire hard disk

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-02 Thread Jerone Young
@Manoj
I have a theory after some other partically related issues with a 
USB 3.0 drive found in a disscussion  on the udev mailing list. Can you remove 
/lib/udev/85-hdparm.rules & reboot and see it works.

   It may be hdparm at fault?

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-04-01 Thread Jerone Young
** Changed in: oem-priority
   Status: New => In Progress

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-03-30 Thread Manoj Iyer
Looks like we are using the older firewire stack, I the older stack is
reported not to work as well with the newer kernel (2.6.32).

https://ieee1394.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Release_Notes#Linux_2.6.32
((scroll up for 2.6.33 notes).

I tried blacklising the old stack and using the new stack but I cant get
to see the disks anymore.

I will continue to look at this some more.

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-03-29 Thread Jerone Young
@Manoj

Tried it out. Did not work. I've attached the dmesg.

 Still same issue can see the device .. but when something
tries to access it it can't.

 Manoj also if you need a machine or device call me or email
me. Can meet up and can let you borrow a device to try and get to the
problem faster.

** Attachment added: "dmesg_firewire_fail_thinkpad_t410"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/42415403/dmesg_firewire_fail_thinkpad_t410

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-03-29 Thread Manoj Iyer
@jerone can you please try the kernel in
http://people.ubuntu.com/~manjo/lp548513-lucid/ and report back here?

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Lucid)
   Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-03-26 Thread Brian Murray
@Jerone - I was able to write to the disk.

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-03-26 Thread Chris Wayne
@Jerone
Unfortunately, I think the firewire disk we have here is the same one you have, 
so I'd expect the results to be similar

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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-03-26 Thread Chris Wayne
I've seen this issue with a Ricoh e832 firewire card.  Same behavior
(can see the disk in /proc/partitions though gparted cant see it and it
can't be mounted).  Attaching dmesg

** Attachment added: "dmesg.txt"
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[Bug 548513] Re: Some firewire disks not working under 10.04

2010-03-26 Thread Jerone Young
@Jeremy
 The drive requires an external power source, so tried that case. 
Also played around with powering it up and down.
   
@Brian
Actually are you able to mount and write to the disk? I saw this 
too with one system .. but when trying to access the disk it was actually 
unable to do it.

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