[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-06-17 Thread Jonathan Thomas
Fixed in maverick. Not much hope for lucid at this point, though. :(

** Changed in: qt4-x11 (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-05-03 Thread Gabi Munteanu
Same thing hapend to me. I upgraded to Lucid and after a short period I lost 
the sound.
When I try to use Amarok or when I test the device in phonon I get a message: 
The audio playback device HDA intel (ALC889 Analog) does not work. And no 
other device works.
I tried to clean install the Kubuntu several times with no results.
If there is a workaround please tell me.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-05-03 Thread Bent Jakobsen
I just found this thread :)

I also have the problem. A work-around which I've worked out it is:

1. Stop Amarok (if it is running)
2. delete: ~./pulse/*runtime
3. Start Amarok.

At least it works for me ;) But I do not know if it will work for you
too.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-05-03 Thread Bent Jakobsen
Sorry... step 2 should be delete ~/.pulse/*runtime  - I'm very sorry.

And then the sound should work until the next reboot.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-05-02 Thread David Nemeskey
I completely second that. This situation is unacceptable.

What's interesting is that Amarok doesn't produce any sound at all,
while Kaffeine, Skype, etc. happily uses the sound card. Until I start
playing a flash video in Firefox, that is...

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-05-02 Thread Jonathan Thomas
KDE will not build without the latest Phonon. Not much we can do here.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-05-02 Thread Alex Wauck
This stuff works in Arch Linux with KDE 4.4.2 and Phonon 4.4.1.  I don't
know if they have the issues with PyQT4 and QtWebkit that were mentioned
in the upstream bug, though.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-05-01 Thread Mark Greenwood
Try running mplayer in a terminal. (mplayer name-of-video-file.avi)
You'll see it attempts to use pulse, then falls back to alsa when that
fails. On my system there is no audio.

I can get mplayer to work by specifying the full hw:1,0 alsa card name
instead of relying on defaults. However when doing this, I get a popup
from phonon saying the audio card doesn't work and then phonon produces
no sound ever again.

This is definitely significantly less functional than it was under
karmic. Can't we just back out the phonon pulseaudio changes and go back
to how it was until upstream give us something that builds?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-30 Thread Mark Greenwood
It's even worse than that. I've just installed the Lucid release.
Without pulse installed, any app that doesn't use phonon can't play any
sound at all. This appears to be because the default ALSA routing is
through pulse. Epic Fail.

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Re: [Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-30 Thread Daniel T Chen
Hmm, I can't reproduce this symptom from a Kubuntu live cd.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-27 Thread David Nemeskey
Daniel: this bug IS a kitten killer. I cannot get sound from two
applications at the same time! The thing is, it worked in Karmic with
pulse (obviously), but it also worked before with just ALSA! However,
now since I upgraded to Lucid, it has stopped working.

If the Kubuntu devs decide to ship a completely broken pulse, at least
tell us how to have the old (pre-pulse) back.

All I have in System Settings/Multimedia is:
- Playback/recording through the PulseAudio sound server (disabled)
- HDA Intel (STAC92xx Analog)
- Jack Audio Connection Kit (which doesn't work either, it wasn't there before 
the upgrade; I think it was pulled in by pulse)

Is there a way I can get at least ALSA mixing?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-25 Thread David Nemeskey
I have just updated my system to Lucid, and while I have Pulse
installed, it seems to be disabled in System Settings. Also Jack Audio
Connection Kit is now installed (libjack only), which I definitely had
not have before the upgrade.

Is this setup change related to this bug, or should I open a new one for
it?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-25 Thread David Nemeskey
Daniel: would you be so kind to point me to this PPA?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-25 Thread ghostautumn
Yes, please do Daniel, I am unaware of which PPA you're referring to.
Thanks.

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Re: [Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-25 Thread Daniel T Chen
Ask in #kubuntu-devel, please.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-25 Thread Jonathan Thomas
The pulse-aware bits are all in the main archive. There isn't a PPA. If
it doesn't work, there's nothing we can really do about it until
upstream gives us something we can package/support.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-24 Thread ghostautumn
does anyone have a fix - even a temporary one - for this? I can
understand that this is an LTS and thus the dev. team's reluctance to
rework libphonon, but if it is resolved can someone at least put this in
backports? It's extremely frustrating.

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Re: [Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-24 Thread Daniel T Chen
There's an unofficial Kubuntu ppa with PulseAudio-aware bits.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Greenwood
Does the fact that this has gone very quiet mean nobody knows how to fix
it? I can offer some time to help if required.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-21 Thread Alex Wauck
I think the real long-term fix for this issue is to whine at the Phonon
developers until the Qt Phonon vs KDE Phonon split is addressed.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Greenwood
I've changed the status to Incomplete, since 'Fix Released' isn't really
accurate. It'll be a real shame if Lucid goes out with something this
important still broken.

** Changed in: qt4-x11 (Ubuntu)
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Re: [Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel T Chen
It's too late to ship this in Lucid final.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-21 Thread Alex Wauck
Would it be possible to patch the Phonon backends to hide the non-
functioning PulseAudio option?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-21 Thread Mark Greenwood
Re : It's too late to ship this in Lucid final.

Typical. The release date is everything, whether it works or not is
secondary. I don't mean to have a go but, really, I despair. I try hard
to help and find bugs and this is the response.

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Re: [Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-21 Thread Daniel T Chen
On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Mark Greenwood wrote:
 Typical. The release date is everything, whether it works or not is
 secondary. I don't mean to have a go but, really, I despair. I try hard
 to help and find bugs and this is the response.

I'm working just as hard -- in my spare time -- to find and fix bugs.
No need to get snippy. :) Honestly, I was being realistic above in my
response of too late to ship this in Lucid final. This bug is hardly
a kitten killer, and while I empathize that it sucks to ship sub-par
PA support in 10.04 LTS right away, be aware that the Kubuntu devs
don't support PA in Kubuntu 10.04 LTS, so there really isn't anything
I can do.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-15 Thread Alex Wauck
This problem is still present on my system with phonon-backend-xine
4.4.0-0ubuntu2, libphonon4 4.6.2-0ubuntu5, and pulseaudio 0.9.22~0.9.21
+stable-queue-32-g8478-0ubuntu14 (which I have modified to include
start-pulseaudio-kde).  I have verified that module-device-manager is
loaded with do_routing=1.  Is there anything else I need to do?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-15 Thread Jonathan Thomas
I, honestly, have no clue. Everything really, really should be fine from the 
Phonon end of things now.
Maybe Daniel can save the day, though? (Subscribing him)

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-15 Thread Mark Greenwood
I haven't had a chance to try it on my system yet but, just a thought,
have you checked that the build problem has been fixed in the backend as
well as in phonon itself?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-15 Thread Alex Wauck
The changelog for phonon-backends says Rebuild for fixed libphonon.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-15 Thread Mark Greenwood
I've updated and I don't think the build changes have fixed the problem.
I base this on two observations:

According to the upstream bug, libphonon.so.4.4.0 should be linked against 
libpulse and libpulse-mainloop-glib, but ldd libphonon.so.4.4.0 shows that it 
is not.
(If I run the same command on the libphonon taken from either Mandriva or 
Fedora, I see that it is linked against the correct libraries).

Secondly, I downloaded the source for the backends (apt-get source) and
did a build. The build prints a list of features it has found -
Pulseaudio is not amongst them, and neither HAVE_PULSEAUDIO  nor
HAVE_PULSEAUDIO_DEVICE_MANAGER are specified on the command line during
the build. I did a nasty hack to the CMakeLists.txt (as I described in
comment #12) and this appeared to fix this problem - but I still don't
get full Pulseadio support in phonon, probably because the same build
problem is still affecting phonon (and I haven't figured out a rebuild
hack for that).

So I think the build problem is still not sorted.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-15 Thread Mark Greenwood
To further confirm this, I have copied libphonon.so.4.4.0 from my
Mandriva install on to my Kubutnu install and retained my rebuilt xine
backend.

Pulseaudio support in phonon is now working more or less correctly:
kcm-phonon shows Pulseaudio output devices instead of ALSA devices
Playing back audio through Amarok shows that ALSA plugin is not being used.

I don't actually get any sound, but that could easily be an
incompatability between libraries taken from two different systems.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-14 Thread Alex Wauck
The PulseAudio output for both Xine and GStreamer backends still goes
through the ALSA plugin on my machine with libphonon4 version
4.6.2-0ubuntu5.  Do the backends need to be rebuilt?

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-14 Thread Mark Greenwood
There are still 2 problems I think.

According to the upstream bug, yes the backends need to be rebuilt.

Secondly, I think the ubuntu pulseaudio package is broken in that it
does not include the KDE startup scripts for pulseaudio (see the
upstream bug). I can raise this as a separate bug if you like?

You might be able to work around the second problem by typing

pactl load-module module-device-manager do_routing=1

which is all that the KDE startup script does.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-14 Thread Alex Wauck
I have reported the start-pulseaudio-kde problem as bug 563250.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-13 Thread Alex Wauck
I have marked this as incomplete since it seems that further
investigation is still needed.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-13 Thread Alex Wauck
It looks like the problem is in the Kubuntu packaging:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234072

The root of the problem, though, seems to be existence of two Phonons:
Qt4-Phonon and standalone Phonon.  Who the hell thought that was a good
idea?  Apparently, getting correct Phonon support in PyQt4 and KDE at
the same time is decidedly non-trivial.

** Changed in: phonon (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Incomplete

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-13 Thread Mark Greenwood
Thanks for continuing to look at this problem. Two versions of phonon
does seem like a recipe for disaster. Let's hope upstream can sort that
out. As far as this specific issue goes, I've done some investigation -
I'm not too clued up on cmake or debian packaging but I figured this
would be worth posting in case any of it helps. All of this is based on
working with apt-get source qt4-x11 and running dpkg-buildpackage.

Once the source has been patched, in
src/3rdparty/phonon/phonon/CMakeLists.txt, there is a check using
macro_optional_find_package(PulseAudio), and one using
macro_optional_find_package(GLIB2). However, nowhere on my system is
there a FindPulseAudio.cmake or a FindGLIB2.cmake, and I can't find a
package that installs them. They are not present in the source.

The strange thing is, that with the lack of those two cmake files I
would expect cmake to print a warning that they couldn't be found. But
it doesn't. It's almost as if that particular CMakeLists.txt is simply
being ignored.

I found the same issue with the source for the phonon backends. That
source does include the two 'missing' cmake files, and they are supposed
to be called by the macros in the phonon/CMakeLists.txt file. But again,
they never are. Only by hacking those macro_optional_find_package()
checks into the CMakeLists.txt at the root level of the source tree
could I get them to run, and when I did that I finally saw
-DHAVE_PULSEAUDIO and -DHAVE_PULSEAUDIO_DEVICE_MANAGER being part of the
command lines issued to make.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-13 Thread Jonathan Thomas
** Package changed: phonon (Ubuntu) = qt4-x11 (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: qt4-x11 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete = Fix Committed

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-13 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package qt4-x11 - 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5

---
qt4-x11 (4:4.6.2-0ubuntu5) lucid; urgency=low

  [ Alessandro Ghersi ]
  * Update applications icons (LP: #350312)
  * Fix watch file to report only stable versions
  * Sync patches with Debian:
- 02_launch_assistant-qt4.diff
- 10_config_tests_fixes.diff
- 15_fix_qmake_makefile_generation.diff
- 16_hide_std_symbols_on_qtwebkit.diff
- 40_alpha_ice.diff
  * Fix qdbus.1 manpage
  * Sync desktop files with Debian to fix lintian warning
  * Fix lintian warning: binary-control-field-duplicates-source
  * Add upstream patch 0002_qmake_qfileinfo_absolutepath.diff
- Fixed QFileInfo::absolutePath() warning when running qmake -project
  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23574043

  [ Jonathan Thomas ]
  * Update upstream's libphonon patch. This will correct build system issues
that caused both the PulseAudio integration to fail as well as the
libphonon version to be under-reported (LP: #557514)
 -- Alessandro Ghersi alessandro-ghe...@kubuntu.org   Fri, 09 Apr 2010 
05:57:00 +0200

** Changed in: qt4-x11 (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-12 Thread Mark Greenwood
OK I reported the bug upstream here:

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234072

The response is twofold:

Firstly, libphonon needs to be at least version 4.3.8. The version in
lucid appears to be version 4.3.1, which is quite old.

Secondly, both libphonon and the phonon backend need to be compiled
against libpulse. This does not appear to be the case with the Kubuntu
packages.

See the upstream bug report for the full details.


** Bug watch added: KDE Bug Tracking System #234072
   http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=234072

** Changed in: phonon (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-12 Thread Jonathan Thomas
Neither of these are accurate. We have libphonon patched up to phonon
4.4.0, and we do compile with PA support. See upstream bug for details.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Greenwood
I'm afraid you're wrong. The functionality I have described works
correctly in other distributions that use the same version of KDE. The
problem is therefore most definitely in your packages.


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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-09 Thread Mark Greenwood
As a further demonstration, I have another machine where I have been
using the JACK backend for phonon (I have Xine packages with JACK
support installed). This was working perfectly until the recent phonon
upgrade. I am still presented with an option to use 'Jack Audio
Connection Kit', which is selected - but phonon now ignores that and
just tries to use ALSA instead.

I mention this as it demonstrates that perhaps this bug should be called
'Phonon ignores non-ALSA outputs' or something like that.

If I boot into the Beta of Mandriva 2010.1 on the same machine, using
the same version of KDE, phonon does work with JACK (and indeed with
Pulseaudio) so again, this is not an upstream bug.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-09 Thread Jonathan Thomas
We have the latest patches along with the latest stable phonon backends.
If this is a bug, it's probably an upstream regression.

** Changed in: phonon (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-08 Thread Jonathan Thomas
Hi there!

Thanks for reporting this bug! Your bug seems to be a problem with the
KDE program itself, and not with our KDE packages. While we appreciate
your issue, it would be better if it was tracked at
https://bugs.kde.org, so that the KDE developers can deal with this
speedily and have direct communication with you as the reporter for more
effective debugging.

Thanks!

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-08 Thread Ben Stolen
I can confirm this. Before 4.4.2, Phonon's backends used Pulseaudio
seamlessly. For some reason, Pulse's device was replaced with ESD on
my system after the upgrade to 4.4.2, and the new PA device actually
routes through alsa and has obvious latency issues.

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-08 Thread Mark Greenwood
** Changed in: phonon (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-07 Thread Jonathan Thomas
This change in behavior is actually caused by the Phonon patches. Pulse
support is built in to each backend itself, so you can use any backend
with PA seamlessly. The only patches that we don't have are the KMix
ones, because they are quite invasive and introduce a lot of new strings
that we don't have the manpower to translate at this time.

** Changed in: phonon (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 557514] Re: [Lucid] Phonon pulseaudio support is broken

2010-04-07 Thread Mark Greenwood
Thanks for the answer but I don't really understand what you are saying.
You say I can use any backend 'seamlessly', but the Xine backend under
Lucid is not using Pulse 'seamlessly', it is using an ALSA output and
routing that to Pulse using the ALSA-pulse plugin. I still see all my
ALSA devices under system settings, which is completely different
behaviour from that which occurs under mandriva, for example. I'm not
sure if I'm explaining this very well, but it does not work the same way
as it does under Mandriva for example - KMix patches notwithstanding. If
I run pavucontrol, I see that all the audio output from phonon
applications is coming through the ALSA plugin, not native pulseaudio.

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