[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-06-12 Thread David Tombs
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 531190 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/531190

Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. This particular bug has already been reported and is a
duplicate of bug 531190, so it is being marked as such. Please look at
the other bug report to see if there is any missing information that you
can provide, or to see if there is a workaround for the bug.
Additionally, any further discussion regarding the bug should occur in
the other report.  Please continue to report any other bugs you may
find.

** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 531190
   upower (devkit-power) reporting bad data when AC cable is unplugged

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-06-05 Thread Ivan Blinov
MSI wind u200, Ubuntu 10.04. Bug still exists. Battery power applet and
acpi -b works cprrect though.

To stop warning every time you pull the plug, repeat next steps:

Run gconf-editor.
Navigate to Apps / gnome-power-manager / notify.
De-select the option discharging.

No need to restart, just close the config editor.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-06-02 Thread ailo
The popup warning message claims I only have 2 minutes left, but when I
press the battery power applet, it says 55 minutes.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-06-02 Thread ailo
When fully charged and after I pull out the power cable, Ubuntu claims
the power is critically low and starts to hibernate. Before going into
hibernation I did see a message claiming I had 55 minutes left of
battery power. Laptop is: LG G51-NPR031-xxx. Celeron Processor.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-23 Thread Ciccio
Same here, msi wind u100. For some reason I only receive the warning but
no action is taken. After a while the estimated remaining battery time
is correct, so the only "problem" I have is a warning every time I pull
the plug.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-17 Thread Falcon1
Dell Vostro 1510, Same simptons

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-12 Thread Kent deVillafranca
This affects me too, on an MSI X340.  Under both Karmic and Lucid,
immediately after pulling the plug, it would tell me I only have 2
minutes of battery power remaining.  Under Karmic, it was merely
annoying...

Under Lucid, it pops up a dialogue box telling me the system is
critically low on power and will shut down.  And then shuts down, *no
matter whether I hit OK or Cancel in the dialogue box*, and even if the
time estimate has corrected itself and is now showing the expected 2.5
hours of battery life remaining!

I'm going to go use the use_time_for_policy workaround now, but surely
the system should ignore blatantly false time estimates (2 minutes
estimated, but battery at 90%)?

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-11 Thread Jiri Lebl
I have a zareason computer which is MSI underneath.  I worked around the
problem by unsetting /apps/gnome-power-
manager/general/use_time_for_policy in gconf-editor

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-11 Thread Alfrenovsky
Peter.

I'm not talking about 10 minutes of remaining time (current capacity / current 
rate).
What I said is that when (design capacity / current rate) <= 10 minutes We 
should ignore the data because the "current rate" should be fake.

"design capacity" is the design battery full charge (usually a little
higher than the real battery last full charge)

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-11 Thread Peter Curtis
Alfrenovsky

The 'drain in 10 minutes' limit might still gives us a potential problem
between 10 minutes battery life left and the 2 minutes that is the
normal shutdown point on machines that have intermediate readings.

A delay of 30 secs  would use some of the hibernate time and need the
standard 120 seconds to be increased to say 150 secs so neither are
perfect.

I tried a time as short as 10 ms on Jauntyin 'invalid-timeout'  and
could not reproduce the effect there so I am not sure we have got to the
bottom of it. i suspect the answer will be obvious to the writers of
upower and gnome-power-manager as it has obviously been an issue in the
past and many others have found it and the ' use_time_for_policy' fudge
as shown by a google search for use_time_for_policy .

The output of a script such as yours on a higher time resolution for
various machines may help them set suitable default parameters if they
can not make them available via the Configure Editor.

By the way, I have put a way of making Configure Editor available via
the Applications menu and avoiding using a terminal on my 'Wind' web
page at www.pcurtis.com/wind.htm#critical_power for users who are
frightened of the terminal (95%?!)

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-11 Thread Alfrenovsky
Peter:

Forget my script. I didn't know that "upower -d" gives you the same
information. cooked.

I had the same strange remaining times with karmic just after
plug/unplug, I didn't report it as a bug before cause I had my
hibernation support broken I disable it and I didn't notice the problem.

I was testing to achieve a reasonable timeout after a pluging/unpluging
event, and the time needed are up to 15 seconds sometimes. So the wait
after reading is not a feasible solution.

The key is to ignore the very high rates. But the rates may vary in different 
notebooks.
The batteries are supposed to be designed to last some hours.
I think we can ignore the rates that will lead the "design capacity" to drain 
in less than 10 minutes.
In my case the "desing capacity" is 57720 mWh so I whould ignore 346320mW or up 
(My strange readings are all about 70mW)
and its far from my standard real rates 3 in charging and 5000 to 13000 
discharging.

does the arbitrary "drain in less than 10 minutes" fits to all?

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-11 Thread Peter Curtis
I have just checked the setup in Jaunty and I find that there are more
options under gconf-editor -> apps -> general including a key called
invalid_timeout which does exactly what we need - the description is
"The invalid timeout is in ms for Power actions.  Set longer if you get
a 'battery critical' messages when you unplug" In Jaunty it is set to
500 ms. So where has it gone!

I also note that other keys such as can_hibernate and can_suspend are
missing and I recall some discussion over these in the past

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-11 Thread Peter Curtis
Alfrenovsky

I have not been able to get your script to work [yet] for me but I
confirm I can see anomalous readings after both plugging in and removing
the power adapter on the output from upower -dump on the MSI Wind.

If this is a common BIOS problem why have we not seen it before. I have
been using two Winds under Hardy and Jaunty almost since they came out
without any sign of a problem. What has changed in the latest gnome-
power-manager? Did it use the charge level in the past? - if so that is
a valid solution as it has been proved over many years. Allowing a
settling period for what must start off as an analog measurement is also
sensible. It must not be too long as we do not want to fail to shut down
in time although unplugging with a critical battery is unlikely apart
from a fumble.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-10 Thread Alfrenovsky
In Dell mini 10 there are anomalous readings just after plugging or
unplugging.

The problem is the BIOS. gnome-power-manager is working fine.
Using change instead time to take actions is not a fix, is a workaround.
Another workaround will be IGNORING absolutelly the acpi battery informatiĆ³n 
when the charge/discharge rate exceedes 700Watts (70mW). I hope this won't 
break anything cause there  are not (i hope) noteboots cosuming that high power

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-10 Thread Peter Curtis
I can confirm I am also seeing the problem on an MSI Wind U100 (with
original bios) and had found the fix using setting 'use_time_for_policy'
to FALSE  works. The problem occurs with two different batteries.

Looking at the various charts one can view using the gnome-power-manager
gui there seems to be a lot of random large values after a unplugging
and plugging in the adapter both in charge and discharge times.

Excerpt from upower --dump shortly after a change shows

.
   state:   discharging
energy:  22.3998 Wh
energy-empty:0 Wh
energy-full: 22.6218 Wh
energy-full-design:  24.42 Wh
energy-rate: 11.3775 W
voltage: 12.152 V
time to empty:   2.0 hours
percentage:  99.0186%
capacity:92.0455%
  History (charge):
1273505398  99.019  discharging
1273505367  99.460  discharging
1273505336  99.902  discharging
  History (rate):
1273505398  11.377  discharging
1273505367  11.466  discharging
1273505336  11.400  discharging
1273505334  13.120  discharging
1273505332  727.438 discharging

Daemon:
  daemon-version:  0.9.1


There seem to be two 'extra' anomalous readings in the rate history which do 
not match readings in the charge history. The idea of a delay seems a good one 
until real cause is found especially if it is Bios related.

I hope this can be fixed soon as such problems give Linux a bad name
especially with owners of MSI machines after all the problems with
Karmic. It took me 4 hours to find a fix and another hour before I came
to this bug report hidden amongst many others for the gnome-power-
manager. It wold have taken a lot longer if I did not know about and use
gconf-editor. I am keeping our other Wind on Jaunty a bit longer which
has behaved  flawlessly for a year.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-03 Thread Oktay Altunergil
Great. Another MSI Wind specific bug. I have a Medion Akoya which is the
same thing as MSI Wind and I have this issue too.

The workaround in Comment #11 regarding setting 'use_time_for_policy' to
FALSE works. (Thanks)

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-02 Thread Alfrenovsky
My post #12 was bas, there was really 72 mW and no 72000.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-02 Thread Alfrenovsky
I tried this again with gdm stopped, so changes can happen with no
suspending or hibernate.

As you can see here in my battery watch file this time my BIOS took 15
seconds to start giving reasonable values.

My netbook charges at about 35-40 Watts, discharges at 13 Watts. 700 to
750 Watts is more power then my microwave oven uses and should be
ignored by any program reading the acpi battery status. When the status
file shows stupid values like this one, it should be completely ignored
a re-read until is looks sane.

The log file was made with this very simple shell script:

#!/bin/bash
while sleep 1
do
BATSTATE="/proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state"
read present state charging rate therest << EOState
$(cat $BATSTATE | cut -d":" -f2 | tr "\n" " " )
EOState
echo "time $(date +%H:%M.%S)\t$charging rate: \t$rate"
done


** Attachment added: "Battery status log (each 1 second)"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47398016/batinfo

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-05-02 Thread Alfrenovsky
Same thing for me with a Dell inspiron 1010 (aka mini 10)

In my case the problem is the netbook, not gnome-power-manager. 
But because its a common problem. gnome-power-manager seems to be the right 
place to put a workaround.

If I watch /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/state I can see that inmediatly after
unpluging the power cord, the "present rate" climbs up to 76000 mW.
After 4 to 6 seconds drops to 900 and 4 seconds after that starts
stabilizing.

The real rate is about 11000 mW.

After unpluging, no matter the remaining capacity, the very high
discharging rate reported leads to miscalculation about the remaining
time. Very little remaining time, and the netbook hibernates.

One workaround possible is to wait 10 or 20 seconds after any "charging state:" 
status change before taking any other measure that can lead to an action.
Other workaround can be to ignore the state when it reports a ridiculous out of 
scale value. In my case I cannot make my netbook use more than 13000 mW, so 
75000 is definitivly a bad measured rate.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-30 Thread steve.horlsey
This procedure fixed it for me (Advent 4211 which is a wind clone):

Press Ctrl-Alt-F2 and use the pop-up to launch gconf-editor.
Navigate to Apps / gnome-power-manager / general.
De-select the option use_time_for_policy.

No need to restart, just close the config editor.

I read in another forum thread that the same problem / workround also
work on a Dell Vostro 1310.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Agger
** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-28 Thread Carsten Agger
I'm also affected by this on an MSI Wind U135.

Here's the result of upower --dump after killing gnome-power-manager:

Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/line_power_ADP2
  native-path:  
/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:01/PNP0C09:00/ACPI0003:00/power_supply/ADP1
  power supply: yes
  updated:  Wed Apr 28 09:11:55 2010 (10 seconds ago)
  has history:  no
  has statistics:   no
  line-power
online: no

Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1
  native-path:  
/sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/device:01/PNP0C09:00/PNP0C0A:00/power_supply/BAT1
  vendor:   MSI Corp.
  model:MS-N014
  power supply: yes
  updated:  Wed Apr 28 09:12:01 2010 (4 seconds ago)
  has history:  yes
  has statistics:   yes
  battery
present: yes
rechargeable:yes
state:   discharging
energy:  56.0994 Wh
energy-empty:0 Wh
energy-full: 56.0994 Wh
energy-full-design:  57.72 Wh
energy-rate: 9.4572 W
voltage: 12.406 V
time to empty:   5.9 hours
percentage:  100%
capacity:97.1923%
  History (rate):
1272438720  9.457   discharging
1272438718  5.350   discharging
1272438716  727.438 discharging

Daemon:
  daemon-version:  0.9.1
  can-suspend: yes
  can-hibernateyes
  on-battery:  yes
  on-low-battery:  no
  lid-is-closed:   no
  lid-is-present:   yes

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-27 Thread Jonathan Reeve

** Attachment added: "upower-output"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45755527/upower-output

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-26 Thread lupus

** Attachment added: "unplugged"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/45596469/upower_unpluged.dump

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-26 Thread lupus
Here is my plugged and unplugged dump!

** Attachment added: "a/c plugged"
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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-26 Thread Chris Coulson
Thank you for your bug report. Please stop gnome-power-manager (killall
gnome-power-manager), unplug the power cord and then post the output of
"upower --dump"

** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Incomplete

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-26 Thread nomentero
Same insue here on Ahtec NetBook LUG(MSI wind clone)

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-21 Thread Ddall
I have the same problem on a MSI Wind u100x with ubuntu 10.04
-I can boot the pc with the sector adaptater pluged-in, but when I unplug it, 
no matter what the current level of charge of the battery is, the system 
hibernate. (just like Jonathan)

-An important precision: If I boot the computer WITHOUT the sector
adaptator, the system works properly, and reads the level of charge (but
if I plug/unplug the sector adaptator, it goes to hibernation).

Another precision: This bug was fixed 2 or 3 weeks ago but it came back
a few days later.

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Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and 
hibernates -- MSI Wind U100
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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-21 Thread Ddall
** Also affects: gnome-power
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-12 Thread Konstantin Lavrov
The same like in my case with LG X110
See bug # 516023

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-08 Thread lupus
I have exactly the same issue on my MSI Wind U-100.
Even in 9.10 I had that incorrect notification of 2 minutes remaining, just in 
that version the auto hibernate option was disabled i guess.
for a temporary solution i set the behaviour for critical battery to suspend, 
so the computer can be waked  up faster. Why there is no option to do nothing 
in the Power Manager options?
Also if it help, i'm happy to atach log files of my battery chargings if some 
tells me how can i get them.

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[Bug 558627] Re: Power manager mistakenly thinks my battery power is critically low, and hibernates -- MSI Wind U100

2010-04-08 Thread Jonathan Reeve

** Attachment added: "BootDmesg.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457041/BootDmesg.txt

** Attachment added: "CurrentDmesg.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457042/CurrentDmesg.txt

** Attachment added: "Dependencies.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457043/Dependencies.txt

** Attachment added: "DevkitPower.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457044/DevkitPower.txt

** Attachment added: "GConfNonDefault.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457045/GConfNonDefault.txt

** Attachment added: "Lspci.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457046/Lspci.txt

** Attachment added: "Lsusb.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457047/Lsusb.txt

** Attachment added: "ProcCpuinfo.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457048/ProcCpuinfo.txt

** Attachment added: "ProcInterrupts.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457049/ProcInterrupts.txt

** Attachment added: "ProcModules.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457050/ProcModules.txt

** Attachment added: "UdevDb.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457051/UdevDb.txt

** Attachment added: "UdevLog.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457052/UdevLog.txt

** Attachment added: "gnome-power-bugreport.txt"
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/43457053/gnome-power-bugreport.txt

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