[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
As per mdz, perhaps it is better to leave the material unchanged. I'll close the bug for now. ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Rejected -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/55913 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
On Thu, Jun 14, 2007 at 07:31:15AM -, Matthew East wrote: > No, I don't think so. As a result of the passage of time, and given that > we're not going to be changing the version number in the About Ubuntu > document, and given that updating a package in Dapper is a non-trivial > exercise, I'm tempted to say that we should probably do nothing about > this bug now. Do others have strong views? In general, there is no need to update documents like this for point releases. All of the information applies equally to the 6.06.x series. -- - mdz -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/55913 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
> Do others have strong views? No I wonder if this still makes sence. Since the useres already get used to it! ?? ...and given it isn´t a trivial changeat least for dapper. We should only leave this bug open, if we intend to change anything in future (read as LTS+1) -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/55913 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
No, I don't think so. As a result of the passage of time, and given that we're not going to be changing the version number in the About Ubuntu document, and given that updating a package in Dapper is a non-trivial exercise, I'm tempted to say that we should probably do nothing about this bug now. Do others have strong views? -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/55913 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
Matthew, did this change get made? Can we close this bug? -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/55913 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
A problem with changing the version number in the documentation - it can't be done in translations, because the entities we use to substitute the version number are expanded into the translated xml. I've started a discussion on the doc list about how to fix this for Edgy [1], but for now the approach I think we should take to this bug for Dapper is to leave the documentation with 6.06 LTS as the version number (as mdz said above, this is still valid), and remove the version number on the Firefox home page. [1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2006-August/006984.html Chime in if you disagree. -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Importance: Untriaged => Medium Status: Unconfirmed => Confirmed -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: [Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 10:05:31AM -, Matthew East wrote: > I can't think of a way that the About Ubuntu document automatically > relies on lsb_release at the moment. It should perform that substitution during the build process. Someone from the development team should be able to provide a simple recipe for this and for automatically substituting it into the firefox HTML. > So, the changes I will do, based on what Matt has commented above are: > > * Remove the version number from the firefox homepage and its translations > * Bump the version number in all of the documentation (including About > Ubuntu) to 6.06.1 LTS > > Matt: if I've misunderstood what you'd like done, please let me know. It's fine with me whether you update the version number on the Firefox home page or just remove it. For Edgy, we should definitely substitute the version number automatically in both places. -- - mdz -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: [Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
On Sun, Aug 13, 2006 at 10:24:36AM -, Thilo Six wrote: > An other thought maybe for edgy > > Why not have a systemwide variable for this purpose like the same way we > define the LANG variable? > > Maybe: > $ echo $DISTRIBUTION > Ubuntu > $ echo $RELEASE > Dapper > $ echo $RELEASENUMBER > 6.06 > $ echo $RELEASENUMBERMINOR > .1 That's what lsb_release does. -- - mdz -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: [Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Thilo Six: > If we start scipting the Relese Number in "About Ubuntu" why not do the same > with the FF hp? About Ubuntu and the other documents are docbook xml and take their version numbers from one file: /usr/share/ubuntu-docs/libs/global.ent The firefox homepage is written directly in HTML so we don't have a simple way to do the same. I don't know a way to make these depend on lsb_release, but maybe we can do it for Edgy. I'm not minded to change something like that for Dapper. Matt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFE3wGftSaF0w5rBv8RAm1EAJ9LSRNVg3vA0S3bxZHP3y9UaWYg1wCfeSKS L49smlze5PgB1IJTcrHOFHI= =amLI -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
An other thought maybe for edgy Why not have a systemwide variable for this purpose like the same way we define the LANG variable? Maybe: $ echo $DISTRIBUTION Ubuntu $ echo $RELEASE Dapper $ echo $RELEASENUMBER 6.06 $ echo $RELEASENUMBERMINOR .1 -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
[OT] First i like to thank you for the productive discussion here. That´s sadly not the normal way in FOSS. [/OT] Matt: >Indeed, it would be best if the "About Ubuntu" document automatically > substituted its version number based on lsb_release, so that we have even > fewer things to change. One thought though: If we start scipting the Relese Number in "About Ubuntu" why not do the same with the FF hp? ...and if you are worried about the Number in there, why not take just the name "Dapper" from lsb_release. This way we could have the best of both worlds and it would be consistent with your first post. -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
I can't think of a way that the About Ubuntu document automatically relies on lsb_release at the moment. So, the changes I will do, based on what Matt has commented above are: * Remove the version number from the firefox homepage and its translations * Bump the version number in all of the documentation (including About Ubuntu) to 6.06.1 LTS Matt: if I've misunderstood what you'd like done, please let me know. -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: [Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
If the inconsistency with the Firefox default page is an issue, I'd prefer to remove the version number entirely. It doesn't need to be there, and it's just one more opportunity for human error when doing releases. Indeed, it would be best if the "About Ubuntu" document automatically substituted its version number based on lsb_release, so that we have even fewer things to change. -- - mdz -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
Thanks for this Matt: About Ubuntu and all the other ubuntu-specific documents all get their version number from the same file, so changing that will change it all. The firefox homepage is separate from this scheme, so if you want to leave that and upload new -docs packages with the change to About Ubuntu, we can. But it strikes me that the inconsistency might confuse users a bit. If it were up to me I'd try and ensure the users see the same version number. If you have any thoughts on this, just repost. Bear in mind the firefox homepage change would be a one-line job. Otherwise, we can proceed and make some -docs packages and change the version number for the documents, and not the firefox homepage. Matt -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
The support team can't rely on this for anything particularly useful; a user could upgrade to an equivalent level immediately before the point release, and have the same packages without the version number changing. Changing "About Ubuntu" should satisfy their needs by giving them an easy way to have the user graphically check for a minimum point release level. I don't see a need to change the firefox home pages. If we do so, we will need to repeat the exercise for every point release in the future in order to avoid confusion, and I'd like to minimize the number of things we need to touch when doing that. ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Assignee: Matt Zimmerman => (unassigned) Status: Needs Info => Unconfirmed -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
I'm still not completely satisfied that we can close this bug. Matt, as Thilo pointed out on the mailing list, on the point release spec it says: "The support team would like to have good traceability of the contents of Dapper at its original release and at each point release. The support team and curious end users would both like to be able to identify a point-release system (whether from a fresh install or upgraded) by means of lsb_release, /etc/issue, etc." It occurs to me that things like "About Ubuntu" and the firefox homepage are the two main ways that many users will identify their system when seeking support. Matt: the change is not difficult. If you want it done, just confirm the bug and we'll sort it (and we'll try and do the same before future point releases). If not, please close the bug :) ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Matt Zimmerman Status: Unconfirmed => Needs Info -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
understand. I just thought it would be more obviously for users they have everything installed and do not need to worry they are missing something. Because the FF default homepage is something like a "figurehead". I do not want to cause unnecessary work. It just thought it shouldn´t get lost at least to talk about. Obviously the responsibility the take the decision is up to you. So if you like lets close this bug then? -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
6.06.1 is a maintenance release of 6.06. It merely incorporates many post-release updates and doesn't constitute a proper new release. It is not necessary or appropriate to change the version number in every context. 6.06 is still correct; systems installed or upgraded with 6.06.1 are simply running 6.06 + updates. Consider it like a service pack for Windows; it's still correct to say that you're running XP when you've installed XP and applied SP2. -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 55913] Re: Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1
...of course i meant the Dapper point update which where released today. -- Firefox default Homepage should now reffer to 6.06.1 https://launchpad.net/bugs/55913 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
