[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Martin Pitt
Chris, with our recent move to almost-pure-upstream builds I figure
adding a screensaver/session inhibitor is something that we should get
upstream to do. Can you please forward those two (firefox/chromium) to
upstream bugs and discuss it there? I guess it's just adding a D-Bus
call on starting the first download and ending the last?

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   Status: New

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Martin Pitt
I can look into enabling Ryhthmbox's power management plugin by default
and test it.

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Martin Pitt
I tested this on current lucid with totem and Rhythmbox. It works as it
should with totem, i. e. when playing a movie, the idle and suspend
timeouts are inhibited, but closing the lid always works.

The Rhythmbox plugin works fine as well. One potentially debatable issue
is  that inhibits the idle timeout, instead of the suspend one, so while
playing music the screensaver and DPMS standby never get active. I
suppose this is meant for party mode where you want to see the
playlist, or the goom visualizer, etc. I propose to leave it like it is
for now.

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package rhythmbox - 0.13.0git20100715-0ubuntu3

---
rhythmbox (0.13.0git20100715-0ubuntu3) maverick; urgency=low

  * debian/rhythmbox.gconf-defaults: Enable power-manager plugin by default.
Drop the power-manager/hidden override, since it's the upstream default
anyway. (LP: #604635)
 -- Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com   Mon, 19 Jul 2010 18:08:58 +0200

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Evan Martin
Most movies in browsers is via Flash, which browsers don't get a lot of
insight into.  I think we can tell that Flash is iterating its main loop
but not whether it's painting or just running a timer; full-screened
Flash creates its own window out of our control.  I think this means we
can't control power management for this primary use case.  (HTML5 video
could definitely be fixed, and I'd be happy to review a patch to do it,
but realistically HTML5 video isn't very common yet.)

A coworker proposed a hack that, after reflection, I think is actually
pretty good: the compositing manager has ultimate knowledge of what's
getting dirtied on your screen.  A heuristic like if something in a
region at least X by Y is repainting regularly don't sleep would
probably get you pretty far without needing to change every app.

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Jerone Young
Thinking about his more after Martin's comment on rhythmbox. I think
another level of idleness has to be created ?

If you have something downloading in Chromium or Firefox .. you do want
the screen lock or screen blank to happen. But what you do not want is
for the machine to go to sleep or hibernate automatically.

Almost like something that says that I'm idle .. but don't go to sleep.

@Martin
  You have thoughts on that?

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/rhythmbox

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Re: [Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, I do recall from my dark murky past with Windows, that there is an
energy-star system for monitoring data

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_wol

http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_wolI'm not
sure if it is of any help, but provide it for you.

Regards,

Phill.

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Jerone Young
jerone.yo...@canonical.comwrote:

 Thinking about his more after Martin's comment on rhythmbox. I think
 another level of idleness has to be created ?

 If you have something downloading in Chromium or Firefox .. you do want
 the screen lock or screen blank to happen. But what you do not want is
 for the machine to go to sleep or hibernate automatically.

 Almost like something that says that I'm idle .. but don't go to sleep.

 @Martin
  You have thoughts on that?

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 Status in Gnome Powermanager: New
 Status in OEM Priority Project: In Progress
 Status in “chromium-browser” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
 Status in “firefox” package in Ubuntu: Triaged
 Status in “gnome-power-manager” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released
 Status in “rhythmbox” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released

 Bug description:
 Binary package hint: gnome-power-manager

 Energy star is a standard backed by the US government to set standards for
 energy use of devices.
 The specification for Operating System settings can be found here:
 http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=revisions.computer_spec

 Spec direct link (page 13):

 http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/prod_development/revisions/downloads/computer/Version5.0_Computer_Spec.pdf

 Also to better help understand Energy Star. The Open Suse team actually
 heavily looked into this, and have a great presentation here:
 http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/3/34/EnergyStar.pdf

 The reason you want to be Energy star compliant:

 - Many retailers will not sell machines that are not Energy Star compliant
 - Most Government agencies will not buy hardware solutions that are not
 Energy Star compliant
 - OEMs are now pushing heavily to have all hardware be Energy Star
 compliant
  - The OS software default settings are apart of the Energy Star
 compliance of machines

 There are only two default settings preventing Ubuntu from being energy
 star compliant:
 * Put display to Sleep within 15 minutes of user inactivity when on A/C
 - Currently this is set to 30 min. So setting it to 15 or below
 would fix this.
 * Activate computer's Sleep mode within 30 minutes of user inactivity when
 on A/C.
 - Currently this is set to never
 - It is also under stood that this could potentially have user
 experience impact

 If both settings cannot be done by deafult.  It has been requested to have
 an Energy Star button in Gnome Power Management interface that would set
 settings to be energy star compliant.






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Re: [Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-19 Thread Chris Coulson
On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 17:04 +, Jerone Young wrote:
 Thinking about his more after Martin's comment on rhythmbox. I think
 another level of idleness has to be created ?
 
 If you have something downloading in Chromium or Firefox .. you do want
 the screen lock or screen blank to happen. But what you do not want is
 for the machine to go to sleep or hibernate automatically.
 
 Almost like something that says that I'm idle .. but don't go to sleep.
 
 @Martin
   You have thoughts on that?
 

This already exists, and is what transmission uses

Rhythmbox could be more intelligent. It could create a suspend inhibit
when listening to music with no visuals, and an idle inhibit if you have
visuals on.

I'll look at implementing this functionality for downloads in Firefox as
an extension. I think I can do it with nsIDownloadManager and
nsIDownloadProgressListener

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-18 Thread Jerone Young
@Martin
  I would like to mark the gnome-power-management task in progress 
for the 30 min suspend. Along with this would be to open bugs or tasks on this 
bug for projects that would get effected by this (as Mario suggests in comment 
#11). This may not be something for 10.10 .. but 11.04 seems to be where 
everything can come together. What do you think ?

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-15 Thread Mario Limonciello
Chris:

Would it be worthwhile then maybe to set up some tasks for those
projects to make sure that inhibitors get setup by default, so as to see
this change that was made for gnome-power-manager doesn't cause a
negative experience on those applications?

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Thanks Mario. Taking this then.

** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Martin Pitt
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #624330
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624330

** Also affects: gnome-power via
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624330
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: gnome-power
   Status: Unknown = New

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Martin Pitt
I pushed this change to the Ubuntu packaging bzr for now. I proposed it
upstream, and will discuss with Richard about possible refinements.

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gnome-power/ubuntu

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-power-manager - 2.30.1-1ubuntu2

---
gnome-power-manager (2.30.1-1ubuntu2) maverick; urgency=low

  * Add 00git-port-to-libupower.patch: Port from libdevkit-power to
libupower-glib, the former will go away soon.
  * debian/control.in: Replace libdevkit-power-gobject-dev with
libupower-glib-dev build dependency.
  * 12-add-appindicators.patch: Update to upower port.
  * Add 13-energy-star.patch: Change default timings to be Energy Star 5.0
compliant, except for automatic suspend on AC (since that might be both
inconvenient, and suspend might not work at all). (LP: #604635)
 -- Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com   Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:19:03 +0200

** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Martin Pitt
Jerone, that's about as far as we can push it from the distro side. At
least the code patch is in, so a possible customization from OEM would
merely involve to add one extra line to debian/gconf-defaults on tested
hardware. Is that acceptable?

** Changed in: oem-priority
   Status: Confirmed = Incomplete

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Jerone Young
@Martin Pitt
   Thanks Martin! I would agree. That does lesson the work needed. 
As I mentioned Activating sleep after 30 minutes is potentially has potential 
impact on machines that do not suspend well, as well as potential user 
experience issues.

With what Mario mentioned I would say that if a Desktop
is having issues with suspend, the preferred method would be to have the
defaults be energy star compliant (suspend after 30min inactivity), and
we would then do something to basically change the suspend setting so
for that machine we wouldn't suspend. Essentially breaking the energy
star compliance.

Though  we can wait to see what the response upstream is
toward energy start compliance. Would like to follow more given upstream
 even perhaps UX team  community input.



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   Status: Incomplete = In Progress

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/gnome-power-manager

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Jerone Young
To add some more comments.

Thinking about the 30 minute suspsend when idle more. Off the top of my
head I can think of some use cases that can be impacted by this:

* A long download via firefox or chromium
* watching a movie or listening to music

Though a solution seems to this already exist. I know that totem has the
ability to tell gnome-power-manager that the it is busy so don't do
anything automatically. This would also be something that firefox or
chromium could have as well when they are downloading content.

I was also told that Transimmision Bittorrent Client has the same logic
to prevent gnome-power-manager from automatically like suspend when it
is running.

Not sure if they are reporting the system not being idle or something
else. But I believe it's all done over dbus.

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-14 Thread Chris Coulson
transmission has the option to inhibit suspend when downloading, but i
think that preference is off by default.

Totem creates an idle inhibitor when watching movies. Rhythmbox can do
this too when listening to music, but i think that plugin is disabled by
default

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-13 Thread Brent Fox
So, if I could restate the request a bit:

Goal: To have Ubuntu be Energy Star Compliant.

Why?:  Some customer tenders are beginning to list Energy Star
Compliance as a requirement, therefore the OEMs must have an Energy Star
compliant OS in order to respond to these tenders.

Implementation Options:  
1)  Make Ubuntu's default settings comply with Energy Star requirements:
* Put display to Sleep within 15 minutes of user inactivity when on A/C
- Currently this is set to 30 min. 
* Activate computer's Sleep mode within 30 minutes of user inactivity when on 
A/C.
- Currently this is set to never

Cons:  These settings may not be a desirable default for the majority of
users


2)  Add a new option to Gnome Power Management to toggle both settings at once 
with a checkbox:  Enable Energy Star Power Mode or somesuch.  I'm guessing 
the best place for that toggle would be under the General tab instead of On 
AC Power or On DC Power.

Cons:  Requires UI changes that would likely need to be pushed upsteam.
Also introduces new strings which would need to be translated.

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-13 Thread Chris Coulson
The second option is basically adding support for profiles in g-p-m,
which I think has already been rejected once before upstream (although
I'm not completely certain about this).

The first option would be really bad for machines such as my desktop,
which are quite happy to suspend - but they always fail to resume.
People with machines like this would be pretty annoyed to do a fresh
install and then lose a bunch of work because the machine automatically
suspended over their lunch break or something

Couldn't you just ship a custom set of defaults for OEM machines?

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-13 Thread Martin Pitt
As a close approximation of this, could we always have the DPMS mode
after 15 minutes (instead of 30), and suspend after 30 only if we are on
battery? Or only if we are a laptop, i. e. have a lid? The latter would
be closer to your request, but require a small code patch (but that
shouldn't stop us, upstream is very open to such kind of things)

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Re: [Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-13 Thread Mario Limonciello
Checking that we are a laptop for the suspend after 30 would cover a
majority of OEM enabled machines, so I think would definitely be a step in
the right direction.  For desktops that need the requirement then, it would
only be a matter of setting a single gconf key.

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 00:04, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com
wrote:

 As a close approximation of this, could we always have the DPMS mode
 after 15 minutes (instead of 30), and suspend after 30 only if we are on
 battery? Or only if we are a laptop, i. e. have a lid? The latter would
 be closer to your request, but require a small code patch (but that
 shouldn't stop us, upstream is very open to such kind of things)

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-12 Thread Jerone Young
** Description changed:

  Binary package hint: gnome-power-manager
  
  Energy star is a standard backed by the US government to set standards for 
energy use of devices.
  The specification for Operating System settings can be found here:
  http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=revisions.computer_spec
  
  Spec direct link (page 13):
  
http://www.energystar.gov/ia/partners/prod_development/revisions/downloads/computer/Version5.0_Computer_Spec.pdf
  
  Also to better help understand Energy Star. The Open Suse team actually 
heavily looked into this, and have a great presentation here:
  http://files.opensuse.org/opensuse/en/3/34/EnergyStar.pdf
  
  The reason you want to be Energy star compliant:
  
  - Many retailers will not sell machines that are not Energy Star compliant
  - Most Government agencies will not buy hardware solutions that are not 
Energy Star compliant
  - OEMs are now pushing heavily to have all hardware be Energy Star compliant
-  - The OS software default settings are apart of the Energy Star 
compliance of machines
+  - The OS software default settings are apart of the Energy Star 
compliance of machines
  
  There are only two default settings preventing Ubuntu from being energy star 
compliant:
  * Put display to Sleep within 15 minutes of user inactivity when on A/C
- - Currently this is set to 30 min. So setting it to 15 or below would 
fix this.
+ - Currently this is set to 30 min. So setting it to 15 or below would 
fix this.
  * Activate computer's Sleep mode within 30 minutes of user inactivity when on 
A/C.
- - Currently this is set to never
- - It is also under stood that this could potentially have user 
experience impact
+ - Currently this is set to never
+ - It is also under stood that this could potentially have user 
experience impact
  
- If this is not completely possible (agreed) to do. OEMs whould like to
- have a Energy Star button in Gnome Power Management interface that would
- set settings to be energy star compliant.
+ If both settings cannot be done by deafult.  It has been requested to
+ have an Energy Star button in Gnome Power Management interface that
+ would set settings to be energy star compliant.

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[Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant
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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

2010-07-12 Thread Jerone Young
** Changed in: oem-priority
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant
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