[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
...Release team reckon that will be 750 kB of sufficient space for the Ubuntu Font Family package from flexing the 'example-content' package until things fit. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family/phased-beta Milestone: None => 0.7.0 -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family Milestone: 0.6.7 => 1.0.0 ** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family Milestone: 1.0.0 => 0.7.0 -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
** Also affects: ubuntu-font-family/trunk Importance: Undecided Status: New -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family Milestone: None => 0.7.0 -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
there are three ways I can think of to deploy it. * Set the interface font name in *gconf* /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name UbuntuBeta 10 * Make it a suggested font in the ambiance and radiance *themes* * In *fontconfig* make it one of the fonts that alias to sans (tweaking stuff in /etc/fonts/conf.d) Switching to the HighContrastLargePrint theme *suggests* a font which can be optionally applied and reverted. With gconf or themes this would mean highcontrastLargePrint would suggest sans, with fontconfig it would use the Ubuntu font family (I checked in #ubuntu-accessibilty, the new font is not seen as worse than sans for low vision use) I am unsure what would happen if gconf is set to default to sans, but the default theme suggests ubuntu font family. I suspect it would use sans by default and in appearance-preferences you would be able to apply the ubuntu font - not the desired effect at all. Using fontconfig to redefine sans means it would get used in documents as the default document font is sans. It could also reflow documents existing that expect sans to mean deja-vu-sans, they are not metrically compatible. I would recommend changing the gconf key /desktop/gnome/interface/font_name and optionally the highcontrastlargeprint theme if you want all the themes to use the new font for the interface. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Thanks Paul for lining us up to land if it comes together appropriately. On 07/09/10 14:20, Paul Sladen wrote: > I don't think we should run the risk of going with document > font defaults (eg. the hinting/layout issues that need researching more > for OpenOffice.org). > Agreed - this is interface-only for the moment, if it is used at all in 10.10. Mark -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
** Tags added: uff-10.10-todo -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
We can concentrate on executing the rest of the to-do list above and
ensuring that the font family .deb package is available and in the right
places to be seeded into the CD images. This is virtually all tediously
technical and procedural; eg. tweaking the advertised font name,
version, license, display name, crossing tees and dotting eyes.
With the proviso of having got the pieces into place first, the
possibility and policy decision of /whether/ to ship as the user-
interface default typeface for {Ubuntu,Kubuntu,both} themes can be left
until closer to the ship date. Even if an end-decision were to be to
just ship on the CDs, this gets UFF out to the wider audience. I think
it's been mostly resolved elsewhere that the candidate versions will
ship with a minor release number (not be metrics stable); so any
decision is coming down to just the user-interface choice question for
the moment---I don't think we should run the risk of going with document
font defaults (eg. the hinting/layout issues that need researching more
for OpenOffice.org).
To allay the fears about ("only"!) having ~1,200 codepoints covered with
glyphs at the moment, glyph substitution will fall back to other fonts
just as it does today (in particular to Deja), so scripts not covered
specifically by the Ubuntu Font Family will display much as they do
already. It's perhaps easier to think of it as the Ubuntu Font Family
"overriding" the $default rendering /when/ UFF has the coverage
available.
Thank you to Alan, Bruno G, et al for working through and double-
checking that the substitution is working as expected. There will be a
need to do some similar testing shortly, in order to work out
technically how to deploy UFF as user-interface default (when/if
needed)---the two suggested methods either being an explicit reference
to "family=Ubuntu" or the Themes, or by providing an alias for 'Sans'.
If you've still got a handle on things, this would be a good next step.
For Kubuntu there are also going to be points 14a./14b. for whether or
not the Kubuntu themes would switch to a default user-interface default
of Ubuntu in the same timeframe window. I have mailed the Kubuntu
council members collectively and it is on their Agenda for future
meetings up to the release date:
https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Meetings
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[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Mandarin chinese takes *ages* to install the font (I thought it had crashed) however it did eventually install and here it is, again no issue caused directly by the new font as default. As an aside note, I was a bit disappointed in the extent of the translations of the desktop, I thought it would be a real challenge testing this, but it would be barely inconvenient for me to use any of those languages full time there is so much English on the screen! ** Attachment added: "Screenshot-Chinese [Running] - VirtualBox OSE-2.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/629622/+attachment/1553044/+files/Screenshot-Chinese%20%5BRunning%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE-2.png -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
India has a *lot* of languages, I think I picked standard Hindi, again not much of it in evidence on the desktop, but what was there does not seem to be adversely affected by the addition of the new font ** Attachment added: "Screenshot-Hindi [Running] - VirtualBox OSE.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/629622/+attachment/1553028/+files/Screenshot-Hindi%20%5BRunning%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE.png -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Arabic screenshot, more English than I had expected, but adding the font and setting it as default didn't seem to do any harm at all. ** Attachment added: "Screenshot-Arabic [Running] - VirtualBox OSE.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/629622/+attachment/1553026/+files/Screenshot-Arabic%20%5BRunning%5D%20-%20VirtualBox%20OSE.png -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
On 06/09/10 22:44, Alan Bell wrote: > It is still one heck of a user interface freeze exception, but I would > love to see it get in and as the default. Yes, I agree it's a big change. But we took steps to mitigate it: screenshotters have easy access to the font. We have had to keep the font out of the archives because we want the font design to reflect the core community's preferences rather than all users preferences, but it's still seen very widespread testing. If we can confirm the font substitution for Arabic, Indian and Chinese users, I'd be +1 making the change for 10.10. Mark -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
yeah, just using it as a known example of very distinctive font with a limited set of glyphs so it is easy to see the behaviour of the desktop when it encounters a missing character. I am a member and I have the real font, but I am not sure I would be competent to spot missing characters when running the desktop in Arabic etc. so just a simple proof that font substitution works and the Arabic, Farsi and Urdu desktop users should just get the sans glyphs for those not implemented yet in the new ubuntu font. If I open up the text file I generated with all the missing glyphs and set the gedit font to ubuntu-beta it displays fine using the glyphs from sans. Basically I think the answers to the questions in #20 are "yes", and "yes". It is still one heck of a user interface freeze exception, but I would love to see it get in and as the default. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Mark, I think Alan was using that font because it has a limited character-set as an example of what Ubuntu does when it can't find a glyph. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Completely wrong font, Alan :-) The correct one is available to Ubuntu members and other groups from ppa:ubuntu-font-betatesting/ppa Mark -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
I tried setting my desktop font to the old ubuntu-title font which is a very incomplete font. The attached image of the desktop and gedit shows what the font server does when it comes across a missing glyph (it does the right thing and uses the sans one) on the left is the language selection dialog with arabic script, again working just fine with the missing glyphs substituted. ** Attachment added: "ubuntutitle.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/629622/+attachment/1551497/+files/ubuntutitle.png -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Can we get preliminary feedback that the font substitution should work in the general case? And if so, reinstate this bug as a goal for Maverick? Mark -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Having switched my desktop defaults to the Ubuntu font I actually can't make the missing glyphs break anything. If I download the notinubuntubeta.txt file and look at it in gedit or anything else and set the font to ubuntu beta all the glyphs seem to display (presumably from sans) in fact the only way I can tell the glyphs are missing is to open the ubuntu font in fontforge. I don't know what magic is doing it, but it all seems to work for me. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Bruno, Is there a font substitution map so that missing Ubuntu characters would be pulled in from the existing fonts? i.e. can we make Ubuntu the default and have no change for Arabic and other users? Mark -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
A cursory parse of Alan's missing glyphs file shows that the whole alphabets are missing (Arabic, Armenian, Georgian to name the ones I could spot). The first one in particular would mean that if the Ubuntu font was made the default font, anybody who speaks Arabic, Farsi or Urdu would be out of luck. So maybe it would be less controversial to include the font in 10.10 so that it gets out to as many users as possible but only make it the default in 11.04? -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Hmm. I wonder if we should defer the actual use of the font till 11.04? That list of Paul's was comprehensive (thanks!) and longer than I'd expected. It may be more realistic to use it as default font in 11.04. Mark -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
based on the output of the font diff, and picking out all lines of the form Glyph "uni" missing from UbuntuBeta here is a list of all the missing characters, code points and unicode names. There are more missing characters, but I don't understand how to parse them and find out what they are. ** Attachment added: "notinubuntubeta.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family/+bug/629622/+attachment/1543274/+files/notinubuntubeta.txt -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
To make the new font the desktop default either the theme could be adapted to load the font, or "sans" which is an alias for a list of preferred fonts could be updated to include ubuntu in the preferences list, I think that is in the fontconfig package and would be a change to /etc/fonts/conf.avail/45-latin.conf and possibly /etc/fonts/conf.avail/40-nonlatin.conf (although I am not familiar with how the whole fontconfig thing works). Anyhow at the moment fontconfig maps sans to DejaVuSans by default. using sfddiff ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans.ttf ubuntu-private-fonts/UbuntuRegular.ttf to compare the glyphs gives the attached output (it segfaulted, but not before it did the glyph comparison.) ** Attachment added: "fontdiff.txt" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/629622/+attachment/1542856/+files/fontdiff.txt -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
The version(s) of the typeface available in the next ~1 month window are
likely to remain below the ~750kB mark, they will only consist of the
four fonts that are presently availabe: Regular, Italic, Bold and Bold
Italic in Standard only See the following:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu%20Font%20Family#Timeline
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu%20Font%20Family#Coverage
I can confirm that the documentation issue (of Deja-based screenshots
vs. UFF-based screenshots) has been mentioned more than once. If there
are any documentation team members who would like access to the PPA
fonts, please ask them to request to join the 'ubuntu-typeface-interest'
group listed in the instructions at:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ubuntu%20Font%20Family#Howto
I admit that I am not a fan of Ubuntu's tendancy for last-minute UI
/theme-related code-drops (even if they are somewhat predictable). In
this case it is slightly complicated because there is:
a. An executive desire that the UFF gets in (1) ships (2) as UI default
(see comment #12 above)
b. An even more executive focus on stylistic/quality values for the typeface
c. A fifth-party involved.
so effectively we're trying to turn a quality-based release ("when it's
ready") into a time-based release (before 10.10.10); with all of the
work, bugs, fixes and tweaks having to flow via Dalton Maag in the
middle. We have to deliver all of that without anyone getting upset,
stressed, burning out, or resigning!
So, on a practical level:
1. Finalise/harmonise the open-licensing (has been done behind the scenes, so
can be effected quickly)
2. (Specifically) invite documentation team members to agressively test the
PPA package
3. Take a weather reading of what the doc team think the impact of (a)
shipping (b) by default as UI font, will be
4. Ditto for the translations teams.
5. Ditto for the release team.
6. Harmonise the versioning (bug #629727)
7. Harmonise the .deb package naming (tff-something-something)
8. Harmonise the Typeface family and display name ("Beta" or not, usurp bug
#602870)
9. Upload to main archive (on basis of (1) and (2))
10. Main Inclusion Report (and hopefully get accepted)
11. Feature Freeze Exception (on basis of (3), (4) and (5) and hopefully get
accepted)
12. Justify CD seeding (750kB ... check there is room or start the carve up)
13. Fix 'High' and 'Critical' bugs
14. Adjust themes to use as User Interface default font setting (on basis of
(8), (12), (13))
15. Say thank you to everyone and offer them relaxing cups of hot tea and
chocolate biscuits.
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[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
also the translations teams are going to need to test the desktop with the new font, if there are any glyphs missing in languages we translate to that would be an issue. I know a lot of testing has been done, but I am not sure that full coverage of sans has been tested, I will have a go at a visual test of that. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
What we don't have yet is the ubuntubeta mono font, for terminal applications and indeed monospaced comments like this on launchpad.net. This would push up the size of the package for inclusion from 719K to something a bit bigger. I also don't think that many people have been using it as the default desktop font, just as a font in documents and so on. There was as far as I recall no specific request to beta testers to change their theme to use the new font. Having just done so, I think it is pretty nice. This is going to totally upset the documentation people taking screenshots after UI freeze though (although they could easily change the font and then take the screenshots if they have access to the font). I also imagine the name of the font will change from Ubuntubeta to Ubuntu which might have some minor implications. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
We definitely do want it in, and used by default. It's in wide beta now, accessible to all Ubuntu members, so there's no reason to think it will throw up more issues than are already being reported on it. Mark -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
And usubscribing the release team until there is something to review. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Marking as invalid until someone involved in the font development actually wants it in. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: Incomplete => Invalid -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family Status: New => Incomplete ** Changed in: ubuntu-font-family Importance: Undecided => Wishlist ** Changed in: ubuntu Milestone: None => ubuntu-10.10 -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
UI Freeze only applies if this is changing the default UI. I haven't heard that this font will be used by default - obviously that's a much riskier change to land at this point than just including it by default would be. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
the size of ubuntu-private-fonts_0.1.10~ppa1_all.deb is 719K -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Jonathan, nothing to do with me directly, I was asking in #ubuntu+1 about the font and as nobody knew about plans for including it they advised me to raise an FFE. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
Alan, do you actually have anything to do with the release and inclusion of the font or are you just submitting this bug as a hint to the people who do? -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 629622] Re: MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10)
This is a user interface change, needs approval from documentation teams https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UserInterfaceFreeze What is the regression potential? Will word processing applications use it as their default font? That might confuse some documents which would expect Liberation or Deja fonts. How much space does it take up, do the various CD images have enough space to include it? Will other fonts be removed? The MIR will need the licence confirmed. -- MIR+FFE: Inclusion of Ubuntu Font Family ~0.7 in Maverick (10.10) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/629622 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
