[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
We'll not change anything further in usplash in Jaunty. ** Changed in: usplash (Ubuntu Jaunty) Status: In Progress = Confirmed Target: ubuntu-9.04-beta = None ** Changed in: usplash (Ubuntu Jaunty) Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix -- Logo is blurred on non-native resolutions on LCD screens https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Switching to KMS and plymouth will be the real fix for this, in Karmic and beyond. With current usplash and the kernel's svga support it's next to impossible to get this right, and we will stop using usplash in the next release anyway. ** Changed in: usplash (Ubuntu) Assignee: Martin Pitt (pitti) = (unassigned) Status: Confirmed = Won't Fix ** Summary changed: - Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme + Logo is blurred on non-native resolutions on LCD screens -- Logo is blurred on non-native resolutions on LCD screens https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
** Changed in: usplash-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu Jaunty) Importance: Undecided = Low -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Still working on this after review of the current artwork and code ** Changed in: usplash (Ubuntu Jaunty) Status: Fix Released = In Progress -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
It looks like this bug is not fixable with the currently available technology. Martin, Ken, thanks for having a bash at it! -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Dear Martin Pitt, my laptop's native resolution is 1280x800 I use usplash 0.5.30 and usplash-theme-ubuntu 0.21 I reconfigured usplash, that automatically generates a good /etc/usplash.conf but the logo is STILL STRETCHED HORIZONTALLY :-( -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Dear Pitwalker Thank you for your report. This might be related to the vesa mode. Please tell me the output of the command 'cat /proc/cmdline'. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
My notebook's native resolution is 1280*768, /etc/usplash.conf had to be corrected, logo/theme (usplash takes the 4:3 version) is stretched (using the default kernel line root=... ro quiet splash). I know that my video card doesn't list a wide screen VESA video mode - could this be related? -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
cat /proc/cmdline root=UUID=21e742bf-fbd7-4c5b-82f4-92bdf09a2bd1 ro quiet splash lspci |grep VGA 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) (on my DELL INSPIRON 1520 the logo is stretched under Intrepid and Jaunty) -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Leonard, please note that we don't set a vesa mode on the kernel command line by default. usplash entirely relies on a correct usplash.conf, and an existing vesa mode for this. It seems that the problem for Hernando and pitwalker is that usplash/svgalib picks a wrong video mode. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Martin, thank you for you answer. On my machine - which might be too little of a default installation - I don't get any usplash screen if I don't set a vga kernel option. Maybe I have to install svgalib. (How are users expected to set the console video mode? Startup-manager?) -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
xres=1440 yres=900 in usplash.conf, yet logo still appears stretched after pitti's updates (looks like 4:3 - 16:10) -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
As stated before, until the new theme is uploaded there will be no noticable effect (which is good for legacy themes, eh?) If you are interested in testing the new theme (baked fresh today!) build the source from http://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/usplash- theme-ubuntu/ubuntu . Make sure that you are running Jaunty with the latest usplash updates or build them yourself from the source...bzr get lp:usplash, debuild, install 3 debs in the right order, then install theme. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
So if there doesn't exist a vesa mode for the native screen resolution (and one can't force the monitor to not stretch the output) there is no fix other than using a compressed image, right? -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Well, better put would be to say if the vesa mode isn't supported correctly there might be visual artefacts because it is not really scaling, although the effect is similar in the end (albeit worse than scaling). Any given combination of monitor/graphics card with the wrong resolution will lead to different problems. We assume that the resolution will be correctly defined at boot and things will work as well as possible with the given resolutions (greatly increased in the newest theme package). The new plymouth code depending on kernel mode settings will fix this (Karmic or K+1). I think that the newest code and theme fixes many of these problems, testing is required, however. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Due to the smaller logo size now used for my screen, the stretching is far less noticable (the not-really-scaling-factor stays the same, of course): http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/673326/DSCF1691.JPG I had to add the compressed logo to see the difference: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/673326/DSCF1693_crop.JPG -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
For this, I added these fields to the theme definition: /* theme resolution; if 0, use width/height of pixmap */ short theme_width; short theme_height; /* position of pixmap */ short pixmap_x; short pixmap_y; Kenneth, Mat, please confirm whether this is what you need. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Just talked to Ken, and there are actually two different aspects: - The patch I talked about above is merely making it easy to define themes, and supply plenty of them for different resolutions without having to duplicate the background images. - If usplash.conf does not have the monitor's native resolution, then the image will appear scaled on LCDs, unless you configured your monitor to show the native size with borders (which many external TFTs can do, but few laptop screens). That's an entirely different problem, though, and will finally be fixed with kernel mode settings in Karmic or later. I'll check how/what currently generates usplash.conf, and whether we can improve this. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
I put the new usplash into my PPA, for playing around:
usplash (0.5.30~ppa1) jaunty; urgency=low
.
* Providing a background image for all possible resolutions has become too
cumbersome. Thus change theme definitions to be able to provide just a
logo, its screen position, and an explicit theme size: (see #64147)
- usplash-theme.h: Add new fields theme_width, theme_height, pixmap_x,
pixmap_y. Bump THEME_VERSION for this.
- usplash-theme.h: Add new functions usplash_theme_width() and
usplash_theme_height() which usplash and themes should use instead of an
explicit pixmap-width/height. These functions will return
theme_{width,height} and fall back to the pixmap's dimensions if the
theme size is 0.
- libusplash.c: Implement above two functions, update the code to use them
instead of the pixmap dimensions, and add the pixmap_{x,y} offset when
drawing pixmap.
- This will require all usplash themes to be rebuilt, define above
four fields, and replace theme-pixmap-width() with
usplash_theme_width(theme) (likewise for height). If you want to retain
full screen pixmaps, just set all of those fields to 0.
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[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
This debdiff for usplash-theme-ubuntu (now also uploaded into my PPA) demonstrates how usplash themes have to be changed to use the new theme definition, but not change any behaviour. ** Attachment added: debdiff for usplash-theme-ubuntu http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23420578/usplash-theme-ubuntu.usplash-theme-4.debdiff -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
To use only a logo, you could do something like
extern struct usplash_pixmap pixmap_usplash_logo_small;
[...]
struct usplash_theme usplash_theme = {
.version = THEME_VERSION, /* ALWAYS set this to THEME_VERSION,
it's a compatibility check */
.next = usplash_theme_640_480,
.ratio = USPLASH_16_9,
/* Background and font */
.pixmap = pixmap_usplash_logo_small,
/* theme resolution; if 0, use width/height of pixmap */
.theme_width = 640,
.theme_height = 400,
/* position of pixmap */
.pixmap_x = 200,
.pixmap_y = 80,
[...]
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[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
I also confirmed how usplash.conf is written: the installer reconfigures the usplash package. usplash's postinst essentially calls xdpyinfo |grep dimensions and writes the resolution to usplash.conf. So we can promise the following: On every computer where X.org looks correct during installation, usplash will, too. This should be the case on the vast majority of systems nowadays, and if X.org comes up with a non-ideal resolution you can always use the resolution capplet to fix it. We can assert that usplash will *always* look scaled and blurry when booting the desktop live system, since at that point we can't do reliable monitor detection. This will eventually be handled with KMS, which isn't quite ready yet and out of scope for Jaunty. Under those constraints, should I upload above usplash theme change, and do you need anything else for Jaunty? -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Thanks again for your help on this Martin - much appreciated! -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Will you also upload the theme changes for Kubuntu and Xubuntu, please? -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Martin: Yes, I think we can commit this. For now I assume there is little change to the theme. I'll get to work adapting the design to this format and put a theme package together by tomorrow. Michael: I have discussed this with the Kubuntu people and they have basically agreed to use the same format and design as the Ubuntu usplash. Naturally the same offer can be made to Xubuntu (or anyone else, really). -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Michael Marley [2009-03-04 13:49 -]: Will you also upload the theme changes for Kubuntu and Xubuntu, please? Once I got told that I should upload this, I'll adapt and upload all usplash themes in the archive, of course. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
** Also affects: usplash-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
** Changed in: usplash (Ubuntu Jaunty) Status: In Progress = Fix Committed -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
This bug was fixed in the package usplash - 0.5.30
---
usplash (0.5.30) jaunty; urgency=low
* Providing a background image for all possible resolutions has become too
cumbersome. Thus change theme definitions to be able to provide just a
logo, its screen position, and an explicit theme size: (LP: #64147)
- usplash-theme.h: Add new fields theme_width, theme_height, pixmap_x,
pixmap_y. Bump THEME_VERSION for this.
- usplash-theme.h: Add new functions usplash_theme_width() and
usplash_theme_height() which usplash and themes should use instead of an
explicit pixmap-width/height. These functions will return
theme_{width,height} and fall back to the pixmap's dimensions if the
theme size is 0.
- libusplash.c: Implement above two functions, update the code to use them
instead of the pixmap dimensions, and add the pixmap_{x,y} offset when
drawing pixmap.
- This will require all usplash themes to be rebuilt, define above
four fields, and replace theme-pixmap-width() with
usplash_theme_width(theme) (likewise for height). If you want to retain
full screen pixmaps, just set all of those fields to 0.
-- Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:41:36
+0100
** Changed in: usplash (Ubuntu Jaunty)
Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released
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[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
I have tried with the packages from your PPA, but I still see the stretched image. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
Nevermind, I just realized that I had to force the console into 1680x1050 mode for it to work right on my laptop. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
I now updated all usplash themes for the new usplash above and uploaded them to Jaunty. Michael, this new usplash version will not change any scaling. As I explained above, that requires a correct /etc/usplash.conf, i. e. it should use your monitor's native resolution. Wasn't that set up correctly for you when installing? If you do sudo rm /etc/usplash.conf sudo dpkg-reconfigure usplash under X.org, what does it configure in /etc/usplash.conf? -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
I keep the -theme-ubuntu task open, since Ken said he wanted to look into defining more themes for more resolutions, and actually use the new feature (just supply two or three logos and place them appropriately). ** Changed in: usplash-theme-ubuntu (Ubuntu Jaunty) Assignee: (unassigned) = Kenneth Wimer (kwwii) Status: New = Triaged -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 64147] Re: Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme
The usplash.conf is set up to use native resolution, but for some reason it doesn't unless I force the framebuffer mode in the kernel boot commands. -- Logo is blurred on resolutions without an explicit theme https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/64147 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
