[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
Indeed xserver-xorg is a package which does it horribly wrong. It clobbers the users' configuration instead of reading the users' modifications from xorg.conf first. There are several precautions in the maintainer scripts to ensure that they are not accidentally overwritten on a package upgrade. postfix somewhat shys away from the problem by defaulting to 'no configuration' if main.cf already exists. Prefering the configuration file over debconf settings is the way that man debconf-devel documents, and I wholeheartedly agree to it. debconf is not a permanent configuration database, but a cache (it's in /var/cache/ for that reason), the authoritative configuration is in configuration files in /etc, just as in any other Unix. I am aware of above packages, but I would rather seem them getting fixed instead of breaking behaviour of even more packages. So maybe we should devote this bug to xserver-xorg then? -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66689 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
The bug (in different wording) is using debconf settings in dhcp3-server is useless. The workaround (in different wording) is don't use debconf. So the workaround above as sent by Valentijn Sessink (that's me :) is no more than another way to state the bug. -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66689 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
I'm afraid I fail to see the problem here. I am perfectly able to change /etc/default/dhcp3-server with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dhcp3-server'. The .config script looks sane as well, it reads the current setting from /etc/default/dhcp3-server, then asks the user about changing it, then writes it back in the postinst. Maybe the misunderstanding here is that the reporter expects debconf settings to dominate configuration files. This is wrong, configuration files are holy and they must never be changed noninteractively by package scripts. Can you please confirm that I understood this report correctly? If not, please elaborate about the problem. -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66689 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
So there are two valid approaches: (1) Just set the value directly in the config file (2) Delete the config file and use debconf, if you prefer this. -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66689 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
Martin Pitt schreef: I'm afraid I fail to see the problem here. I am perfectly able to change /etc/default/dhcp3-server with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure dhcp3-server'. The .config script looks sane as well, it reads the current setting from /etc/default/dhcp3-server Why should it? then asks the user about changing it, then writes it back in the postinst. Maybe the misunderstanding here is that the reporter expects debconf settings to dominate configuration files. This is wrong, configuration files are holy and they must never be changed noninteractively by package scripts. That's not true. Try for example: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Or even better, try: echo 'postfix postfix/root_addressstring snork' | debconf-set-selections dpkg-reconfigure -fnoninteractive postfix You'll see the postfix config file getting changed (and mind you, root mail is redirected to a probably non-existing user named snork, so don't try this at home) That's the behaviour I expect from dhcp3-server as well, instead of ignoring debconf-settings alltogether and making up its own mind. Can you please confirm that I understood this report correctly? If not, please elaborate about the problem. Well, I think you did understand what I mean, but your answer doesn't convince me yet, as there are two major packages that behave differently. V. -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66689 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
This is being escalated by Canonical Support. ** Summary changed: - P3: dhcp3-server misuses debconf + dhcp3-server misuses debconf -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/66689 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
Possible workaround sent by Valentijn: Workaround found: put the option you want straight into the dhcp3-server config file. Later on, it might be reflected in debconf automatically :-S ** Changed in: dhcp3 (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low Assignee: (unassigned) = Fabián Rodríguez Status: Unconfirmed = Needs Info -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://launchpad.net/bugs/66689 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
For some reason reusing a URL marked this (wrongly) as needing fix in banshee. -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://launchpad.net/bugs/66689 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 66689] Re: dhcp3-server misuses debconf
** Changed in: banshee (Ubuntu) Status: Unconfirmed = Rejected -- dhcp3-server misuses debconf https://launchpad.net/bugs/66689 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
