[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Andrius Štikonas]

** Changed in: debian
   Importance: Unknown => Undecided

** Changed in: debian
   Status: Confirmed => New

** Changed in: debian
 Bugwatch: Debian Bug tracker #211765 => None

** Changed in: debian
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[KarlGoetz]

Just FYI, this bug is now marked as fixed in Debian and gNewSense.

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Re: [Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[KarlGoetz]

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On Wed, 14 Jan 2009 14:44:28 -
"Brett Smith (FSF)"  wrote:

> On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 23:53 +, KarlGoetz wrote:
> > I'm wondering if this change takes effect immediately, or if we
> > have to wait for updated code to hit the archives?
> 
> Good question.  The change is definitely effective immediately for the
> code in the git repository as of yesterday -- you don't need to wait
> for any updated license headers or anything like that.  I believe the
> permission is also sufficient to cover the files starting on the day
> that SGI made the licensing change back in September, but if it's
> really important to you I think you should double-check that with
> upstream.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 

It does clarify, thanks.
I guess that means distros will have to ask Xorg about the status of
files shipped in releases before the Sept. announcement (eg, Ubuntu
8.04.x, gNewSense 2.x).
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Re: [Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Brett Smith (FSF)]

On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 23:53 +, KarlGoetz wrote:
> I'm wondering if this change takes effect immediately, or if we have to
> wait for updated code to hit the archives?

Good question.  The change is definitely effective immediately for the
code in the git repository as of yesterday -- you don't need to wait for
any updated license headers or anything like that.  I believe the
permission is also sufficient to cover the files starting on the day
that SGI made the licensing change back in September, but if it's really
important to you I think you should double-check that with upstream.

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Re: [Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[KarlGoetz]

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:41:15 -
"Brett Smith (FSF)"  wrote:

> Hello again everyone,
> 
> I just got word from the X.Org team that all the developers who worked
> on the files that were under the GLX Public License have given their
> permission for their contributions to be used under the new permissive
> terms.  I believe that all the code in X.Org that was originally under
> an SGI license is now free software.  Once the latest stuff gets
> incorporated into Debian, I think this bug can be closed.
> 
> Again, if anyone has any questions about this, please feel free to ask
> me.
> 

Hi Brett, thanks for the great news.
I'm wondering if this change takes effect immediately, or if we have to
wait for updated code to hit the archives?

I'm not sure which is correct from your answer.
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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Brett Smith (FSF)]

Hello again everyone,

I just got word from the X.Org team that all the developers who worked
on the files that were under the GLX Public License have given their
permission for their contributions to be used under the new permissive
terms.  I believe that all the code in X.Org that was originally under
an SGI license is now free software.  Once the latest stuff gets
incorporated into Debian, I think this bug can be closed.

Again, if anyone has any questions about this, please feel free to ask
me.

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Brett Smith (FSF)]

Hello everyone,

As some people here have noticed, SGI's update of the SGI Free License B is a 
really great contribution to free software, and it does a lot to help resolve 
this bug.  Unfortunately, it's not a complete solution; there are still a few 
legal loose ends that need to be tied up.  I've
written up more about the current state of everything at 
.  I'll be working 
with the relevant people to get the rest of the licensing cleared up.  I'll let 
you know when that happens, so you'll be able to close this bug for good.

If you have any questions about this, please don't hesitate to contact
me.

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Carsten Agger]

Yes.

The two remaining fles under GLX Public license are these:

GL/glx/glxext.c
hw/dmx/glxProxy/glxext.c

Presumably they will also be relicensed, the question is how - SGI's
press release doesn't mention this. I've emailed the FSF asking if they
know the details.

br
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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Matthew Flaschen]

That's incorrect.  Version 1.1 says, "SGI may publish revised and/or new 
versions of the License
from time to time, each with a distinguishing version number. Once Covered Code 
has been
published under a particular version of the License, Recipient may, for the 
duration of the
license, continue to use it under the terms of that version, or choose to use 
such Covered Code
under the terms of any subsequent version published by SGI."

That means /any/ covered 1.1 code (regardless of owner) can now be used
under either 1.1. or 2.0.  However, the separate GLX Public License
remains an issue.

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Re: [Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[KarlGoetz]

On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 16:01 +, Andrius Štikonas wrote:
> Version 1.1 of the FreeB license was replaced by version 2.0, which
> mirrors the well-known X11 license. Under the terms of version 1.1,
> "once Covered Code has been published under a particular version of the
> License, Recipient may, for the duration of the License, continue to use
> it under the terms of that version, or choose to use such Covered Code
> under the terms of any subsequent version published by SGI."
> 
> All old code can now be used under new license. It is now free software.

Not until all non-sgi copyright holders agree as well, which i belive
has not happened yet.

This should still be "In progress"

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Matthew Flaschen]

This is great news.  Bug should be changed to deal only with GLX Public
License.

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Re: [Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Carsten Agger]

On Fri, 2008-09-19 at 18:45 +, Timo Jyrinki wrote:
> Yes, that's hugely great news!
> 
Yes, this is an ideal solution. Kudos to the FSF, and to SGI, for
solving this important problem!

best regards,

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Andrius Štikonas]

Version 1.1 of the FreeB license was replaced by version 2.0, which
mirrors the well-known X11 license. Under the terms of version 1.1,
"once Covered Code has been published under a particular version of the
License, Recipient may, for the duration of the License, continue to use
it under the terms of that version, or choose to use such Covered Code
under the terms of any subsequent version published by SGI."

All old code can now be used under new license. It is now free software.

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Carsten Agger]

I'll start working on this as of today. May take some time, though.

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Carsten Agger (agger)

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Carsten Agger]

In the Hardy release of Ubuntu, this bug seems to affect these packages:

/media/disk/usr/share/doc/xserver-xgl/
/media/disk/usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-core/
/media/disk/usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-v4l/

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Timo Jyrinki]

Putting back to Confirmed, also affects X.org. Most of the GLX code is
either under GLX Public License or SGI Free Software License B, which
are both non-free (both non-DFSG-free and non-FSF-free).

** Changed in: ubuntu
   Status: Invalid => Confirmed

** Changed in: xorg-server (Ubuntu)
Sourcepackagename: None => xorg-server

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Jonathan Carter]

Why should it be re-opened? XFree86 is no longer supported in Ubuntu,
and the xserver-xfree86 package that you find in the repositories is
merely a transitional package for Xorg.

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[Bug 6765] Re: xfree86: material under GLX Public License and SGI Free Software License B is not DFSG-free

[Matthew Flaschen]

Can this be reopened?  It's been several releases.

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