[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2012-07-31 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
Chris, I think it would be easier for everyone using the string
(including those who collect OS statistics, like Wikimedia) if it was in
the user-agent string itself.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2012-07-17 Thread Chris Coulson
Yes, we could probably add it back for that. Are you ok with the version
being in an extra http header like before?

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2012-06-04 Thread Michael Nelson
@chris: I've just checked for the change you landed with r255, and see
it must have been removed at some point.

Is there a way we can have this included for apps.ubuntu.com and
software-center.ubuntu.com (or *.ubuntu.com so we can test the
functionality on our staging servers too)? Currently we can only provide
useful info to Chromium users.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-08-02 Thread Marco Ceppi
** Changed in: apturlredirector
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Marco Ceppi
Being the person who wrote the APTURLRedirector Project code - I haven't
heard of any issues from Canonical IS team. As of right now it doesn't
process or look for the X-Ubuntu header, but could if need be. Currently
Firefox would be the only browser that supports it - so adaptations to
Chrome/Chromium would need to be made to send the X-Ubuntu header for it
to be a holistic solution. That being said if Canonical IS team would
like to communicate any issues with me they can do so via bug reports or
email. I would love to have them addressed immediately.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Brian Murray
I'm really not clear on how the apturldirector project works but I'm
under the impression it is a community project hosted on Canonical
servers and that IS had some concerns with the new version of it.
However, as I understand it were if those concerns addressed then the
new version would be installed and it'd be looking for the X-Ubuntu
header.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Chris Coulson
Do I need to keep the X-Ubuntu header in the long term then? Or will
apt.ubuntu.com not check this in the future?

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-05-04 Thread Brian Murray
It has been fixed at apt.ubuntu.com now as the user agent checking has
been removed altogether until the new version of apturlredirector is
installed.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-10 Thread Greg Auger
No.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-10 Thread Jeremy Bicha
This still doesn't work. Has it been fixed at apt.ubuntu.com yet?

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/ubufox

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-08 Thread Chris Coulson
** Changed in: ubufox
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ubufox - 0.9-0ubuntu1

---
ubufox (0.9-0ubuntu1) natty; urgency=low

  * New upstream release v0.9
  * All patches are merged in to the upstream branch now

  * Fix LP: #750305 - Please update links and configs for Natty release.
Rather than doing this manually for every release, we add a dist.js with
distro information (populated at build time with lsb_release) and just
do all this automatically.
  * Fix LP: #752364 - Plugin Finder Service never finds anything. Use the
release info in dist.js to construct the URL, now that this got dropped
from Firefox
  * Fix LP: #728826 - Update icons to new versions.
  * Drop the pluginGlue.js module. This didn't work, as we can no longer
use a modules registerSelf method to use nsICategoryManager at startup,
due to the XPCOM registration changes in Firefox 4. Instead, add
category entries with the chrome.manifest
  * Fix LP: #709125 - User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so
apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work. We add an extra X-Ubuntu HTTP header in
requests to apt.ubuntu.com, rather than send this information out in
every request in the UA string

  * Add build-depend on lsb-release so we can create dist.js
 -- Chris CoulsonSat, 09 Apr 2011 00:08:51 
+0100

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Triaged => Fix Released

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-08 Thread Chris Coulson
I've fixed this in ubufox now -
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/ubufox/trunk/revision/225

Basically, requests to apt.ubuntu.com now get an extra header
(X-Ubuntu=11.04)

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-08 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubufox

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-04-08 Thread Chris Coulson
** Package changed: firefox (Ubuntu Natty) => ubufox (Ubuntu Natty)

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Won't Fix => Triaged

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu Natty)
Milestone: None => ubuntu-11.04-beta-2

** Changed in: ubufox (Ubuntu Natty)
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson)

** Also affects: ubufox
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ubufox
   Status: New => Fix Committed

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-26 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:apturlredirector

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-26 Thread Marco Ceppi
I've included a design change to the APTURLRedirector project which will
bypass the "Switch to Ubuntu" screen if it's detected from the UA that
the machine is linux and attempt to launch the apt link. After 5 seconds
additional text will display informing the user that you need Ubuntu for
this to work and provide the link to learn more. This fix has been
committed. I would love to implement the older functionality (Possibly
after Chris implements sending the additional header to *.ubuntu.com)
for now this change ensures that Firefox users won't need to incur an
additional step trying to get packages from apt.ubuntu.com

** Changed in: apturlredirector
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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-26 Thread Chris Coulson
Just to be clear, I fully intend to add support to ubufox for adding an
extra header to the HTTP requests for certain websites (eg,
apt.ubuntu.com), which make it possible for those sites to identify an
Ubuntu machine. However, this will be restricted only to sites where we
really, really need it (it won't be sent out in every request), and it
would still require a server-side fix in apt.ubuntu.com too (to detect
the new header).

The header will probably be called something like X-Ubuntu, and have a
value equal to the release version (eg, 11.04). I'm not sure if we need
any extra information.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-26 Thread Marco Ceppi
** Changed in: apturlredirector
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-24 Thread Jorge O. Castro
mpt,

I think being able to have apt.u.c working for people who use other
browsers is a lesser evil.

Sure we lose the chance to tell people about ubuntu and how to get it,
but if they're on another OS it won't do them any harm, and in return we
get to finally help people fix the "I can't install things right"
problem, which is a bigger issue.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-24 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
We can't reasonably assume that every Linux user is using Ubuntu.
Market-share-wise, that would be roughly equivalent to assuming that
every browser user is using Internet Explorer. :-)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572650 describes a worthy
goal, but nothing about that requires treating Ubuntu *differently* from
other OSes. As long as it is possible to distinguish Windows and Mac OS
X users by the UA string, it should be possible to distinguish Ubuntu
users too.

Even if naming the kernel in the UA string is important (I don't know
why, but maybe it is), Firefox should treat Ubuntu exactly the same as
it treats Android and Maemo, which also use Linux as their kernel: that
is, have "(Ubuntu; Linux;...)" just like it has "(Android; Linux;...)"
and "(Maemo; Linux;...)".

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-24 Thread Chris Coulson
Well, it's still possible to differentiate an Ubuntu machine from Mac OS
X and Windows, it just isn't possible to differentiate it from another
Linux machine.

In any case, this isn't going to be changed in Firefox
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572650 details the
reasoning behind this, and this isn't something we are going to support
indefinitely as a distro-patch, and I can't see Mozilla ever agreeing to
us reverting this change either). In addition to this, as I pointed out
above, having "Ubuntu" in the UA string has been a long-standing source
of problems such as this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/16014/web-
sites-see-my-firefox-as-a-mobile-browser-on-ubuntu (and plenty of bugs
reported on Launchpad too).

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-24 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
apt.ubuntu.com does not "deny access" to non-Ubuntu clients, and nobody
has suggested that it should. That's not the issue. The issue is that it
has to be able to display OS-dependent information: an installation
button for the relevant package if you're running Ubuntu, or if you're
running something else, information about Ubuntu and how to get it.

It's possible to tell whether a Web browser is running on Windows or
not, or on Mac OS X or not. If Firefox on Ubuntu makes it impossible for
us to tell whether it's running on Ubuntu or not, that's putting Ubuntu
at an unfair disadvantage.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-22 Thread Martin Pitt
As discussed above, this won't be fixed in Firefox.

I agree that apt.ubuntu.com should just drop the UA filter. There is
little reason to deny access to non-Ubuntu hosts, after all? Non-Ubuntu
OSes won't have apturl and other .deb handlers installed, so it won't do
them any harm?

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu Natty)
Milestone: ubuntu-11.04-beta-1 => None

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu Natty)
 Assignee: Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson) => (unassigned)

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: Chris Coulson (chrisccoulson) => (unassigned)

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Re: [Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-03 Thread Marco Ceppi
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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-03 Thread Stefan Nuxoll
What is the rationale behind denying UA's without Ubuntu in them access
to apt.ubuntu.com? I ask because it would honestly make more sense to
get rid of the UA sniffing, Mozilla's change in FF4 is something that I
agree with, the less information in a UA string the better, we shouldn't
be encouraging browser fingerprinting and wasting TCP packets to send
the word "Ubuntu" in the HTTP request. It reeks of the same issue we as
an open source community have been fighting against webapps that sniff
the UA and deny us access because we're not running Windows or OS X,
even though it uses nothing more than Javascript, HTML and CSS and will
run fine on any browser.

If we are going to include an extension because there is a valid reason
to do UA sniffing on apt.ubuntu.com (I can't think of any myself, so
please do tell me the rationale) I think we should make sure it only
sends the extra UA part on ubuntu.com URL's, if we are going to make
Ubuntu users more identifiable we should limit only to Ubuntu services.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-03-01 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu Natty)
Milestone: natty-alpha-3 => ubuntu-11.04-beta-1

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-27 Thread Marco Ceppi
Would creating a small extension that's just included in the default
installation possibly be "the best" solution for this? Something that
can be picked up by a webpage to say "Oh, this is an Ubuntu Machine"

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-25 Thread Martin Pitt
Chris, Michael, is this an apt or firefox bug? Who should this be
assigned to? Thanks!

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu Natty)
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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-22 Thread Marco Ceppi
** Changed in: apturlredirector
Milestone: None => 1.1

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-22 Thread Marco Ceppi
There's a similar issue going on with Google Chrome at the moment. As
simple fix has been included in the apturlredirector project but I'm
open to more elaborate ideas (like taking in extra headers, etc).

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-22 Thread Greg Auger
** Also affects: apturlredirector
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: apturlredirector
   Status: New => Confirmed

** Changed in: apturlredirector
   Importance: Undecided => Critical

** Changed in: apturlredirector
 Assignee: (unassigned) => Marco Ceppi (marco-ceppi)

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-18 Thread Brian Murray
I'm not wedded to the idea of having this fixed in Firefox, the right
thing may be to fix apt.ubuntu.com, but it still should be sorted out.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-18 Thread Chris Coulson
I've spoken to somebody from Mozilla, and this won't be fixed by adding
vendor information back to the user agent string (see
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572650 for some idea of why
this has changed, and this is not the sort of thing we'll be vendor
patching).

In addition to that, as I pointed out above - the vendor identification
in the UA string has been a constant source of problems where websites
misdetect the browser on Ubuntu and display incorrect content (ie,
mobile content).

At best, I can probably add an extra header to the HTTP packets when
communicating with apt.ubuntu.com (and this is what has been recommended
to me) - but this would also need a server-side fix too.

** Bug watch added: Mozilla Bugzilla #572650
   https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=572650

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-02-18 Thread Brian Murray
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu Natty)
Milestone: None => natty-alpha-3

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Coulson
The general.useragent.vendor* preferences weren't really supported, and
have been dropped entirely as part of the UA string refactoring (see
http://blog.mozilla.com/dwitte/2010/08/24/user-agent-string-changes-
coming-in-firefox-4/). There is currently no mechanism for adding the
vendor name.

The vendor details at the end of our UA string has also recently been a
source of bugs where websites don't render correctly on Ubuntu, but do
work correctly using upstream Mozilla builds.

I'm not sure of any way around this yet. "navigator.vendor" is also just
a stub in Firefox 4, and returns an empty string if you query it with
JS.

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-01-28 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
I confirm the investigation from Brian, and get the same usergent here.

** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu Natty)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 709125] Re: User agent doesn't include Ubuntu in it so apt.ubuntu.com doesn't work

2011-01-28 Thread Brian Murray
For what it is worth about:config says this though:

general.useragent.vendor;Ubuntu

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