[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
The Precise Pangolin has reached end of life, so this bug will not be fixed for that release ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) Status: New => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
The Precise Pangolin has reached end of life, so this bug will not be fixed for that release ** Changed in: apt-clone (Ubuntu Precise) Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
** Changed in: apt-clone (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Confirmed ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Status: New => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. We are sorry that we do not always have the capacity to look at all reported bugs in a timely manner. There have been many changes in Ubuntu since that time you reported the bug and your problem may have been fixed with some of the updates. It would help us a lot if you could test it on a currently supported Ubuntu version. If you test it and it is still an issue, kindly upload the updated logs by running only once: apport-collect 766171 and any other logs that are relevant for this particular issue. ** Changed in: apt-clone (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
eol reached https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) Status: New => Invalid ** Changed in: apt-clone (Ubuntu Oneiric) Status: New => Invalid ** Changed in: apt-clone (Ubuntu Natty) Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
** Tags added: rls-mgr-p-tracking -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) Assignee: (unassigned) => Fabiano Neves Morelato (card-3d) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
** Also affects: apt-clone (Ubuntu Oneiric) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu Oneiric) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: apt-clone (Ubuntu Precise) Importance: High Status: Confirmed ** Also affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) Milestone: ubuntu-11.10 => None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-clone/+bug/766171/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Milestone: None => ubuntu-11.10 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) Status: New => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
** Changed in: apt-clone (Ubuntu Natty) Milestone: ubuntu-11.04 => None -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
ev: I'm currently working on bug 766171, but I'm growing tempted to switch off
the upgrade option for installs lacking an Internet connection
[11:06] cjwatson: might not be a bad idea ...
[11:07] ev: yeah, I wanted to give it my best go, as it's a really nice feature
to have, but it's growing increasingly complex as I discover new facets to the
bug.
[11:44] ev: okay, mpt and I talked it over and we're going to keep the option
but change the text dependent on whether there's an active Internet connection
(like how the prepare page works):
https://docs.google.com/View?docid=0AU5sFuLRpCpBZGZra2pqY2pfMTAxZ25rcnBnNXY&hl=en#4_5_1_Automatic_partitioning_o_8475526086986065
[11:44] ev: cjwatson: do you think this is a sufficiently critical problem to
warrant the late string change?
[11:44] ev: err addition
[11:45] ev: personally, I think displaying something in English is better than
hiding the option and thus offering no explanation at all
[11:46] ev: (oh, and this is in the "Ubuntu {older version} on it..." box)
[12:23] cjwatson: ev: I don't see the proposed change in the Google docs link -
can you point me to it specificaly?
[12:23] cjwatson: oh, I see it now
[12:23] cjwatson: ev: we should keep the "System-wide settings will be cleared"
bit
[12:24] genec: Kurisutian: yes, had a connection issue but solved now
[12:24] cjwatson: (IMO)
[12:24] ev: cjwatson: agreed. mpt, are you okay with that?
[12:24] cjwatson: ev: I think at this point, I'm leaning towards preferring to
disable the option for 11.04 than change the string, though
[12:25] cjwatson: I mean, if there's no network connection
[12:25] ev: cjwatson: oh? Could you elaborate on why?
[12:25] mpt: ev, done
[12:26] cjwatson: ev: because it's a new feature, and obviously this situation
isn't working well; it would be better to leave people in the same state they
were in for 10.10, rather than giving them an option we already know has
problems
[12:26] ev: mpt: thanks
[12:28] ev: cjwatson: to clarify, do you mean disable it completely, even when
there is an Internet connection?
[12:28] cjwatson: ev: no, I mean disable it only if there is no network
connection
[12:28] ev: okay
[12:28] cjwatson: we already have UI that says that things may not work ideally
if you don't have a connection
[12:29] ev: my concern with doing that is two people will see different results
without understanding why
[12:29] ev: granted, we already have a fair bit of that on the partitioning page
[12:29] cjwatson: ev: one of those people would have had an X on the second
screen already
[12:31] ev: I'm not convinced there's a clear connection between that and not
having an upgrade option
[12:31] cjwatson: it's certainly not perfect, but eight days before release I'd
prefer to disable a known-problematic code path rather than introduce UI to
warn about its problems
[12:31] cjwatson: I'd feel differently if the upgrade option had been present
in 10.10
[12:31] mpt: cjwatson, if we disable it, we will need to at least explain why,
in-place, so that someone doesn't wonder why they see different options from
someone else (or from the screenshot in a tutorial or book)
[12:32] mpt: and that itself would involve a new string
[12:32] mpt: Other than that I don't mind much either way
[12:32] cjwatson: mpt: as ev says, there are already several cases in automatic
partitioning where people see different options
[12:32] cjwatson: so one more, as a we-need-to-work-around-this-at-short-notice
matter ... *shrug*
[12:33] cjwatson: (BTW, this is my own position rather than a veto or anything)
[12:34] mpt: cjwatson, sure, but they're at very different scales of knowing.
Hopefully you are much more aware that you previously had Ubuntu 10.10 on this
computer than that your router needs rebooting, for example.
[12:35] cjwatson: mpt: Uh, that's not what I'm talking about
[12:35] cjwatson: mpt: most people have no idea that the reason they don't have
a resize option is that their system already has four primary partitions
[12:35] cjwatson: for example
[12:36] cjwatson: the UI design offers different options in that case, but does
not "explain why, in-place"
[12:37] mpt: cjwatson, I would have if I could have. The problem in that case
was that it just got way too long and the explanation didn't help you make a
decision anyway.
[12:38] cjwatson: mpt: I'm not saying it would have been easy, but
nevertheless, such situations are there already and create divergence from
screenshots in tutorials or books; those tutorials or books already have to say
that you may see different options (and the ones I've seen generally do)
[12:39] Kurisutian: cjwatson: They should be in your Inbox right now.
[12:40] ev: for what it's worth, I do think this is slightly easier for the
user to resolve
[12:40] ev: if you have four primary partitions *shrug*
[12:40] ev: but all this takes is connecting to the Internet, which isn't made
clear to them
[12:40] cjwatson: there are a number of cases where i
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
I've gotten half-way to fixing this in lp:~ev/apt-clone/766171 however it falls over when trying to restore the packages. apt-clone still tries to retrieve packages from the network, and we cannot just create a repository out of the repacked debs as they're older versions than what's present in the cache on the target system. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 766171] Re: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection
My current thought is that we create a second apt.Cache() off /rofs (the read-only copy of the squashfs that gets copied to the target filesystem), take the set difference of installed packages from both caches, and repack each package in that delta. Failing an adequate solution, we can hide the upgrade/reinstall option when an Internet connection is not available. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/766171 Title: apt-clone does not repack debs that it will not be able to download when there isn't an Internet connection -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
