[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
** Also affects: baltix Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
@ Sebastien Bacher (seb128) Bluetooth Manager - My laptop doesn't have bluetooth Check for new hardware drivers - I use nouveau drivers Disk Notifications - I do myself manually Evolution Alarm notify - I get mails directly through gmail. Personal file sharing - Never use it Print queue applet - I have no printer Pulseaudio Sound System KDE routing Policy - Useless eater Remote Desktop - I don't know that such a service exist Ubuntuone - never Visual Assistance - Not needed Now do you realize that most of the services I listed I don't use it and it eats up 120mb of my memory? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
Those shouldn't use memory since they don't run if not activated -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
To give some details, a good part of the ones you listed check a key and exit so they don't run if not activated from their ui (i.e remote desktop, file sharing, hardware drivers) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
It should be added that this bug was not fixed but rather the opposite bug 803917 was fixed. Which means, many startup apps still do not show in gnome-session-properties. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
Bernhard - Actually this bug was fixed - Startup Applications is available in the session indicator and also visible in a dash search -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
Ah, well in that way it was fixed for me as well. But not in this way you mentioned yourself in the bug description: There can be no assumption that the 20 or so default enabled startup apps are suitable or useful for all so the means to adjust should be visible I agree with post #5 and would appreciate if those apps were optional at startup (with this menu item and without digging into the .conf files). I don't want to speak of the devil but even Windows allows this through msconfig. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
This bug was fixed in the package gnome-session - 3.1.3-0ubuntu2 --- gnome-session (3.1.3-0ubuntu2) oneiric; urgency=low * 03_display_session_capplet.patch: display the session properties capplet, the list is cleaned from the system services now and it can be useful for users who want to start softwares with the session (lp: #802218) * series: comment 80_new_upstream_session_dialog, the modified version never went in upstream git and has issues with gtk3, if the upstream dialog is not working fine in our desktop we should discuss how to maintain a custom session dialog in a better way (lp:807503) -- Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com Mon, 11 Jul 2011 16:39:56 +0200 ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Fix Committed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
Re-marking as new, - as seen here the list of available options in Startup Applications has been culled significantly, too much as i see, but that's just an opinion. So Startup Applications shouls again be made visible. bug #803917 ** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid = New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
Do you realize that most of the services you listed are checking for a config key or hardware availability to start and that they will not run in all cases? Like bluetooth will not start if there is no device to manage, login sound will do nothing if the config key is turned to off, same for file sharing, same for remote desktop, etc? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
is there anything in the list that you consider optional? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
is there anything in the list that you consider optional? Myself - after most installs - Bluetooth Manager Check for new hardware drivers Disk Notifications Evolution Alarm notify Gnome login Sound Personal file sharing Print queue applet Pulseaudio Sound System KDE routing Policy (use gnome Remote Desktop Ubuntuone Update Notifier Visual Assistance -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
** Changed in: gnome-session (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gnome- session/master/revision/4698 Intentional change, so marking Invalid. I guess the submitter has a point - an advanced user can always tap in 'gnome-session-properties' on the terminal and having 'Startup Applications' in the main menu is just asking for a user to accidentally turn off some important daemon or another. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
Of course if you disagree then please comment back, but it's clear this isn't a 'bug' in the proper sense of the term. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 802218] Re: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true
Certainly I disagree - I'm somewhat an advanced user and I didn't know the exact name of the Exec, obviously I knew enough to browse to /usr/share/applications/ to start up and retrieve the exec name, ect. Again here - on a fresh install I have 21 'startups', many that make no sense running at start up, if ever. Considering the continuing memory issues with compiz, nvidia drivers, ect. ALL users should be able to see this config tool (I save 100+MB at login by paring the list by disabling 11 'non-critical' apps... Now if they actually follow thru and allow disabling the 'non-critical' apps thru g-c-c or similar fine, we'll see -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/802218 Title: session-properties.desktop uses NoDisplay=true To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/802218/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
