[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-12-15 Thread Ara Pulido
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-12-01 Thread Ara Pulido
Removing the blocks-hwcert tag, as this bug no longer blocks
certification (we accepted the workaround)

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-28 Thread Eliot Gable
This bug affects me in both Natty and Oneiric.


00:00.0 Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 Host Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI-X Root Port
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 SMBus Controller (rev 10)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 IDE Controller
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-ISA Bridge
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 PCI-PCI Bridge
00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 AC'97 Audio 
Controller (rev 01)
00:14.6 Modem: ATI Technologies Inc SB400 AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 01)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
HyperTransport Technology Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address 
Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM 
Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] 
Miscellaneous Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 
(PCIE)
02:03.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. 
RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
02:04.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
02:04.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev ac)
02:04.2 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C552 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 04)
02:09.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT2800 802.11n PCI

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 36
model name  : AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology MT-37
stepping: 2
cpu MHz : 800.000
cache size  : 1024 KB
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt lm 3dnowext 
3dnow up rep_good nopl pni lahf_lm
bogomips: 1591.55
TLB size: 1024 4K pages
clflush size: 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes   : 40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management: ts fid vid ttp tm stc

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-14 Thread Kat Amsterdam
My second monitor showed a big white and blue stripe down the middle and
after a reboot a dithered screen with every other scan line blacked out.

The shocker of this incident is Wont Fix!!! Unbelievably unprofessional.
The screen is the most important as it's your interface with the
computer.

See attachment for what is happening.

** Attachment added: shows the behaviour on a dual screen monitor
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/830949/+attachment/2543028/+files/2011-10-14%2013.38.26_oneric_badscreen.jpg

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Re: [Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-09 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
It doesn't (or shouldn't) work fine in Natty - the same limitations
should apply.  Or, it might work by crashing Compiz which autospawns
Metacity, which doesn't have this limitation.

Unity2d will work fine.

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-07 Thread Bobby Smith
You can use your external monitors at their native resolution. You just
can't use Unity 3D at the same time, because it's broken. Allowing you
to set a broken configuration is not an improvement.

While I get that point, and I get that it's 8 days before release, dual
monitor support is a pretty big feature and one of the largest
complaints of linux distro's in general is difficultly in getting
graphics drivers to cooperate with other features.  This seems to work
fine for me in Natty.  This bug will probably prevent me (and I'd
suspect quite a few others) from upgrading.

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Per discussion with DX team on IRC
smspillaz jibel: that looks like a driver bug to me
smspillaz hrm
smspillaz jibel: mark it a dupe of that max gl texture size bug
* Saviq|lunch is now known as Saviq
smspillaz there's a plugin I can enable to work around that problem but we 
can't enable new plugins for O
* tseliot1 has quit (Leaving.)
jibel smspillaz, ok, so that's a won't fix for O and I target to P. I won't 
mark it as dupe of 824099 because its purpose was to split 824099 with a bug 
per driver.

Could anyone confirm that Chris's fix improved the situation.

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
   Status: Triaged = Won't Fix

** Also affects: compiz (Ubuntu P-series)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu P-series)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu P-series)
   Status: New = Invalid

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu P-series)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu P-series)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu P-series)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Desktop Experience Team 
(canonical-dx-team)

** Tags removed: rls-mgr-o-tracking
** Tags added: rls-mgr-p-tracking

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-04 Thread Daniel Manrique
Hi!

I'm testing this fix (actually the one for 824099) on a couple of
N10-based systems (Dell Latitude 2110 and Dell Inspiron Mini 1018).

Native panel resolution is 1366x768 on the Latitude 2110 and 1024x600 on
the Mini 1018.

When I plug in the external monitor, it doesn't get activated
automatically. I need to go into the displays panel and set it to
On. The external monitor is 1280x1024. As expected, if I just click
Apply, I get a dialog asking me to arrange things so they fit within
2048x2048 or use Ubuntu 2d.

If I make things fit within the required resolution (either by reducing
resolutions or by arranging the display, for instance, vertically so the
total resolution is 1024x1624) things work well, the second display gets
activated correctly and performance is good, no sluggishness or crashes.

On the Latitude 2110 I can't bring the external display resolution low
enough for a side-by-side arrangement (lowest allowable is 800x600, so
on the horizontal total resolution is 2166). But a vertical arrangement,
even at 1280x1024 for the external display (total display size is
1366x1792) works fine.

I also tried rotating the displays and as long as the resolutions fit
within the 2048x2048 box, everythinig works fine.

As for the software, these systems were installed from an image dated
20111003 and then dist-upgraded to the latest packages today.

Thanks for this fix!

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-04 Thread Sabin Iacob
may I say that crippling options so that we can't use external monitors
at their native resolution is not a solution? the solution to this
problem is breaking the desktop into tiles smaller than max texture
size, doing compositing/transforms and then combining them afterwards
for display (or something more clever someone who is an actual graphics
programmer can come up with, this seems the most straightforward
approach to me)

rant
and no, saying screw you, get a real computer is not a solution either; my 
Atom 570 netbook has plenty of power (dual core + HT = 4 virtual cores) in a 
small, cheap and light package, I'm not giving it up for a 4 kg 17 inch monster 
with the nvidia mobile card du jour (it also has a nvidia ION2 which eats about 
as much power as the rest of the system); it's sad that Intel chose to cripple 
both the video card (2048x2048 max texture size) and the CPU (can't address 
more than 2 GB of RAM -- maybe they have a thing for 2^11), but the former can 
be overcome by smart programmers and the latter by SSD (seek times approaching 
zero make swapping significantly less painful)
/rant

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Re: [Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-04 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
On Tue, 2011-10-04 at 21:32 +, Sabin Iacob wrote:
 may I say that crippling options so that we can't use external monitors
 at their native resolution is not a solution?

You can use your external monitors at their native resolution.  You just
can't use Unity 3D at the same time, because it's broken.  Allowing you
to set a broken configuration is not an improvement.

  the solution to this
 problem is breaking the desktop into tiles smaller than max texture
 size, doing compositing/transforms and then combining them afterwards
 for display (or something more clever someone who is an actual graphics
 programmer can come up with, this seems the most straightforward
 approach to me)
 

This is indeed a correct solution, but not one that can be implemented
and tested in the 8 days before release.  So, for Oneiric, we're going
to prevent you from setting a configuration that won't work.  In P,
we'll fix compiz and unity so that this configuration will work.

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-04 Thread Kate Stewart
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
Milestone: ubuntu-11.10 = None

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
Milestone: ubuntu-11.10 = None

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-04 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Desktop Experience Team 
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-03 Thread Kate Stewart
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-10-03 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
This situation should no longer be easy to trigger - as a workaround for
Oneiric we've disallowed setting a broken setup in gnome-desktop's RANDR
code (see bug #824099).

Users could still manually set a broken mode with the xrandr commandline
tool, but GNOME should no longer automatically set a broken mode, and
will not allow the GUI tools to set a broken mode.

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-23 Thread Didier Roche
** Tags added: didrocks-oneiric-list

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-16 Thread David Barth
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
 Assignee: Jay Taoko (jaytaoko) = (unassigned)

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-09 Thread Chris Halse Rogers
This cannot be usefully handled as a driver bug; the hardware is
perfectly capable of running at that resoluton.  The driver cannot know
that you're going to try to use a GL compositor that doesn't handle
running at resolutions greater than the maximum GL texture size.

This is either a compiz bug or a unity bug.  Didn't compiz grow support
for running at  max_gl_texture_size this cycle?  That would be slower
(I'm not sure how much slower) but shouldn't fail.  There might be mesa
bugs causing that to be slower than it has to be, but that doesn't seem
to be this bug.

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Oneiric)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-07 Thread Martin Pitt
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Oneiric)
 Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = Chris Halse 
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-07 Thread David Barth
** Also affects: unity
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: unity
Milestone: None = 4.14.0

** Changed in: unity
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Jay Taoko (jaytaoko)

** Changed in: unity
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: unity
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-07 Thread David Barth
Ok, so this sounds like an another HW limitation problem, where the
addition of a second head prevents the chipset to drive all screens that
the initial resolution and results in poor results.

Intrisically it is a driver bug: the driver shouldn't force the HW to go
beyond its limits. Either it should lower the resolution forcefully, or
disable support for the 2nd head.



** Changed in: unity
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-07 Thread Marius Kotsbak
Okay, then I added it affecting the Intel X driver.

** Also affects: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-07 Thread Chris Van Hoof
Adding the Desktop Team to have a look at this to see if this is indeed
an issue in x-x-v-intel

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Oneiric)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team)

** Changed in: xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu Oneiric)
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-06 Thread Daniel Manrique
Hi,

I tried this on the Dell Inspiron Mini 1018 with N10 chipset, using the
Oneiric image from 20110906. I'm still seeing the same faulty behavior
:(

Unlike Jay (comment #5), when I plug in the external display the system
tries to drive it at 1280x1024 (native resolution), resulting in
sluggishness as originally reported.

Also if I go into the displays control panel, I can see all resolutions
for the external monitor, from 640x480 up to 1280x1024.

I'll mark as Triaged again. Thanks!

** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-02 Thread David Barth
** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
   Status: Triaged = Incomplete

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-02 Thread Marius Kotsbak
What do you mean? I still see this in the latest Natty.

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-09-02 Thread Brad Figg
** Tags added: rls-mgr-o-tracking

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-08-30 Thread David Barth
Same. Is this still an active issue or an instllation problem?

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-08-29 Thread Jay Taoko
There seems to have been some changes in the monitor display setting. As
of today if I plug in an external monitor into my Dell mini 9, the
monitor display settings no longer shows all supported resolutions of
the external monitor. It shows only 800x600 and 1024x768. My external
display support up to 1280x1024.

I am not sure if this is a new development from the driver in order to
reduce the external resolution to something that can be handle properly
by the dell mini 9 GPU.

Can you report if you are getting the same thing on your N10 systems?

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-08-25 Thread Ara Pulido
I talked with Jay yesterday, and he is going to try to find a way to
setting a limit to resolutions via software

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-08-23 Thread Daniel Manrique
Hi Jay,

As with other systems exhibiting this problem, I retested this with the
Oneiric image from 20110823. Rather than the corruption as reported by
Jeff, on the external screen I see a black background and only the
panel, while the internal screen shows some ghosting of windows and is
sluggish/unresponsive. Bug 807161has a more detailed description and
pictures.

It seems to me that once the Compiz problem out of the way, we hit that
other bug again. Also see bug 790824 for a more technical discussion of
this behavior.

To answer your questions:

- Is it possible to know the details of that particular system (in the
picture): how much RAM does it has?

I can give you any details you need on the Inspiron Mini 1018 which had
the same behavior as Jeff described. This has 1 GB RAM. Please let me
know if you need any more data.

 - What is the resolution of the external monitor?

Native 1280x1024.

 - Is it possible to lower the external monitor resolution when setting
up a multi-monitor configuration?

Yes :) This is best done by opening a terminal prior to plugging in the
external screen and using xrandr to switch modes, as once the external
is plugged in, things are too sluggish to use the GUI.

 - Does the problem shown in the picture still occurs when the external
monitor resolution is at its lowest?

The internal display has 1024x600 resolution. I found that I can bring
the external display from 640x480 all the way to 1024x768 and things
continue to work fine. The first resolution that fails is 1152x864. At
the default resolution for the external monitor (1280x1024) things also
don't work.

By the way, I also tried and reported on this under Maverick and Natty
for bug 807161 (see comment #9), where the findings were similar: at a
low enough resolution, the external display works fine.


Thanks for all your help!

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-08-22 Thread Ara Pulido
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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-08-22 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
** Also affects: compiz (Ubuntu Oneiric)
   Importance: Critical
 Assignee: Jay Taoko (jaytaoko)
   Status: Triaged

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[Bug 830949] Re: [Intel N10 Graphics] Plugging in external monitor to VGA port makes both displays corrupted with thick slanted lines

2011-08-22 Thread Jay Taoko
I have a dell mini 9. It should be very similar CPU (if not the same) as the 
N10.
I updated it today.
Following that, I plug in an external monitor (max res 1280x1024) through a VGA 
cable. I was able to run Unity in these configuration:

laptop: 1024x600  external monitor: 800x600: no major issue to report.
Unity works well.

laptop: 1024x600  external monitor: 832x624: no major issue to report.
Unity works well.

laptop: 1024x600  external monitor: 1024x768: starting to see some empty
regions on the external monitor (black). Probably the limited video
memory of the dell mini 9 is kicking in...

laptop: 1024x600  external monitor: 1152x864: unusable

My dell mini 9 system only has 1 GigaByte of RAM so it is possible that
past a certain resolution, the system can't handle an external monitor
correctly. It is also likely that the driver doesn't provide much help
either...

However, I couldn't reproduce the bug as reported here. From the picture
of the bug, it looks like the system is trying to drive an HD monitor;
probably one with an even higher resolution than my external monitor.
So, I wonder if the system has enough RAM for that. Even if it does, we
can't be certain how that RAM it is allocated (between the GPU and the
CPU).

 - Is it possible to know the details of that particular system (in the 
picture): how much RAM does it has?
 - What is the resolution of the external monitor?
 - Is it possible to lower the external monitor resolution when setting up a 
multi-monitor configuration?
 - Does the problem shown in the picture still occurs when the external monitor 
resolution is at its lowest?

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