[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name
Filiprino, You concerns are duly noted, but I do not agree this is a critical usability bug. This is expected behavior, which still allows you to see the exact current state of the connection across various types of network states. The name of the network when connected is always shown as the established connection, because realistically that's what you want to know if you have multiple providers: are you connected to the right one? And if not, allow you to change that. When disconnected, the menu shows you the current activation state of the modem, which allows you to see what network it would most likely connect to if you're outside of your standard provider area. This doesn't mean you're connected, just that it's what we're getting the signal from, at this current point in time. Finally, the parens at the end of the name show you the current speed at which the connection is established (UMTS, HSDPA, etc), and whether it's roaming or not. If it's roaming, then it's likely a good indication that your provider is not reachable. You can furthermore edit the connection preferences and click a checkbox that will tell NM to not connect to a specific connection if it's in roaming. To add to this, you may be interested to know that notifications about roaming status have been added in nm-applet and will be available in Oneiric. SMS support is planned, but not yet available. Since everything appears to be there to allow you to safely connect to the right provider and avoid large roaming charges, I'm closing this bug as Invalid. ** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/833232 Title: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/833232/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name
Oh, and in that mockup, the active Operator Network should be marked with a tick and the text should be white. And if it was possible (enough space necessary), in the parens next to the WWAN profile used should appear the active Operator Network too. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/833232 Title: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/833232/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name
I think you did not understand my bug description. The name of the network when connected is always shown as the established connection, because realistically that's what you want to know if you have multiple providers: are you connected to the right one? And if not, allow you to change that. The name of the network is not shown. What is shown is the profile used to connect to the WWAN, and the name of the profile is not attached to a determinated Operator Network. When disconnected, the menu shows you the current activation state of the modem, which allows you to see what network it would most likely connect to if you're outside of your standard provider area. This doesn't mean you're connected, just that it's what we're getting the signal from, at this current point in time. I didn't mean that I was connected. By the way, that's what the nm-applet should show, not the network profile as I have stated before. By not showing the Operator Network you can't know wether you are using an international network or not. Finally, the parens at the end of the name show you the current speed at which the connection is established (UMTS, HSDPA, etc), and whether it's roaming or not. If it's roaming, then it's likely a good indication that your provider is not reachable. You can furthermore edit the connection preferences and click a checkbox that will tell NM to not connect to a specific connection if it's in roaming. If I check that option then the WWAN does not work. If the Operator Network is national or international does not matter, the WWAN is always considered as roaming, and there are two types of roaming: national roaming and international roaming. For instance, the Operator Network shown on the screenshot I've post is my national Operator Network, Orange Spain, so that UMTS Roaming does not mean International Roaming, it's just saying that's a roaming (WWAN) connection. The same goes for the profile name Simyo/Blau Predeterminado. That UMTS Roaming is saying in that case that I'm on a national roaming network. To add to this, you may be interested to know that notifications about roaming status have been added in nm-applet and will be available in Oneiric. SMS support is planned, but not yet available. That's good to know. Since everything appears to be there to allow you to safely connect to the right provider and avoid large roaming charges, I'm closing this bug as Invalid. No, that's incorrect. I can't know to what provider I'm connecting in reality. I only know which profile I'm using for connecting but nothing about the actual Operator Network is shown, only when you are disconnected as I've shown on my previous screenshot. For an informational purpose, I've added a mockup of what nm-applet should show. This bug is not invalid and its status should be changed again. ** Attachment added: nmapplet-mockup.png https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/833232/+attachment/2399364/+files/nmapplet-mockup.png -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/833232 Title: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/833232/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name
Did someone receive this bug / feature request? This is a critical usability bug. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/833232 Title: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/833232/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network
** Attachment added: Nm-applet showing network name while disconnected. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/833232/+attachment/2309081/+files/bug-nmapplet.png ** Summary changed: - NetworkManager does not show WWAN network + NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name ** Description changed: I'm using a 3G WWAN modem, Huawei E270 which uses the Option kernel module. The problem is that while I'm connected I can't identify the network to which the modem is connected because the name of the connection profile used is shown instead. That's a problem when I go out on vacation because I'm on the frontier of my country and at any time the modem can hook up to an international network without notifying me and without being able to check to which network is connected. As there's no SMS support on NetworkManager I can't read SMS notifying me that I'm on an international network, or that I've reached my limit of international traffic (for instance, my national plan too). So, using my 3G connection I feel like a blind person going out to the street without any help (stick, dog - SMS, network information). - Instead of showing the name of the profile used NM should display the network name, something that can actually do. I've attached an screenshot showing that NM applet can display the operator's network name. + Instead of showing the name of the profile used NM should display the network name, something that can actually do. I've attached an screenshot showing that NM applet can display the operator's network name. It should also notify with a notify-osd alert whenever it changes the network to which it's connected. There should be SMS arrival notifications too, and being able to read the messages. Finally, there should be the option to connect only to your national operator network. Of course you can deal with your mobile Internet provider, but then you have to call for support every time you want or not international roaming. It's better being able to select to which network operator you want to connect national or an allowed international one if there's more than one to choose from, just like a phone. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 11.04 Package: network-manager-gnome 0.8.4~git.20110318t152954.9c4c9a0-0ubuntu1 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.38-10.46-generic 2.6.38.7 Uname: Linux 2.6.38-10-generic i686 Architecture: i386 CRDA: Error: [Errno 2] No existe el fichero o el directorio Date: Wed Aug 24 19:06:20 2011 ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/nm-applet IfupdownConfig: - auto lo - iface lo inet loopback + auto lo + iface lo inet loopback InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal - Release i386 (20110427.1) IpRoute: - 10.64.64.64 dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src 95.214.32.230 - 169.254.0.0/16 dev ppp0 scope link metric 1000 - default via 10.64.64.64 dev ppp0 proto static + 10.64.64.64 dev ppp0 proto kernel scope link src 95.214.32.230 + 169.254.0.0/16 dev ppp0 scope link metric 1000 + default via 10.64.64.64 dev ppp0 proto static NetworkManager.state: - [main] - NetworkingEnabled=true - WirelessEnabled=true - WWANEnabled=true + [main] + NetworkingEnabled=true + WirelessEnabled=true + WWANEnabled=true ProcEnviron: - LANGUAGE=es_ES:en - LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 - SHELL=/bin/bash + LANGUAGE=es_ES:en + LANG=es_ES.UTF-8 + SHELL=/bin/bash SourcePackage: network-manager-applet UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to natty on 2011-05-20 (95 days ago) XsessionErrors: - (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.FilesPlace.SectionsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. - (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.FilesPlace.GroupsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. - (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsPlace.SectionsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. - (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsPlace.GroupsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. - (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsPlace.GlobalGroupsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. + (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.FilesPlace.SectionsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. + (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.FilesPlace.GroupsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. + (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsPlace.SectionsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. + (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsPlace.GroupsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. + (unknown:1275): dee-WARNING **: Transaction from com.canonical.Unity.ApplicationsPlace.GlobalGroupsModel is in the past. Ignoring transaction. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu
