[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name

2011-09-13 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
Filiprino,

You concerns are duly noted, but I do not agree this is a critical
usability bug. This is expected behavior, which still allows you to see
the exact current state of the connection across various types of
network states.

The name of the network when connected is always shown as the
established connection, because realistically that's what you want to
know if you have multiple providers: are you connected to the right one?
And if not, allow you to change that.

When disconnected, the menu shows you the current activation state of
the modem, which allows you to see what network it would most likely
connect to if you're outside of your standard provider area. This
doesn't mean you're connected, just that it's what we're getting the
signal from, at this current point in time.

Finally, the parens at the end of the name show you the current speed at
which the connection is established (UMTS, HSDPA, etc), and whether it's
roaming or not. If it's roaming, then it's likely a good indication that
your provider is not reachable. You can furthermore edit the connection
preferences and click a checkbox that will tell NM to not connect to a
specific connection if it's in roaming.

To add to this, you may be interested to know that notifications about
roaming status have been added in nm-applet and will be available in
Oneiric. SMS support is planned, but not yet available.

Since everything appears to be there to allow you to safely connect to
the right provider and avoid large roaming charges, I'm closing this bug
as Invalid.


** Changed in: network-manager-applet (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name

2011-09-13 Thread Filiprino
Oh, and in that mockup, the active Operator Network should be marked
with a tick and the text should be white. And if it was possible (enough
space necessary), in the parens next to the WWAN profile used should
appear the active Operator Network too.

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[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name

2011-09-13 Thread Filiprino
I think you did not understand my bug description.
The name of the network when connected is always shown as the established 
connection, because realistically that's what you want to know if you have 
multiple providers: are you connected to the right one? And if not, allow you 
to change that.
The name of the network is not shown. What is shown is the profile used to 
connect to the WWAN, and the name of the profile is not attached to a 
determinated Operator Network.

When disconnected, the menu shows you the current activation state of the 
modem, which allows you to see what network it would most likely connect to if 
you're outside of your standard provider area. This doesn't mean you're 
connected, just that it's what we're getting the signal from, at this current 
point in time.
I didn't mean that I was connected. By the way, that's what the nm-applet 
should show, not the network profile as I have stated before. By not showing 
the Operator Network you can't know wether you are using an international 
network or not.

Finally, the parens at the end of the name show you the current speed at which 
the connection is established (UMTS, HSDPA, etc), and whether it's roaming or 
not. If it's roaming, then it's likely a good indication that your provider is 
not reachable. You can furthermore edit the connection preferences and click a 
checkbox that will tell NM to not connect to a specific connection if it's in 
roaming.
If I check that option then the WWAN does not work. If the Operator Network is 
national or international does not matter, the WWAN is always considered as 
roaming, and there are two types of roaming: national roaming and international 
roaming.
For instance, the Operator Network shown on the screenshot I've post is my 
national Operator Network, Orange Spain, so that UMTS Roaming does not mean 
International Roaming, it's just saying that's a roaming (WWAN) connection. 
The same goes for the profile name Simyo/Blau Predeterminado. That UMTS 
Roaming is saying in that case that I'm on a national roaming network.

To add to this, you may be interested to know that notifications about roaming 
status have been added in nm-applet and will be available in Oneiric. SMS 
support is planned, but not yet available.
That's good to know.

Since everything appears to be there to allow you to safely connect to the 
right provider and avoid large roaming charges, I'm closing this bug as 
Invalid.
No, that's incorrect. I can't know to what provider I'm connecting in reality. 
I only know which profile I'm using for connecting but nothing about the actual 
Operator Network is shown, only when you are disconnected as I've shown on my 
previous screenshot. For an informational purpose, I've added a mockup of what 
nm-applet should show.

This bug is not invalid and its status should be changed again.


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[Bug 833232] Re: NetworkManager does not show WWAN network name

2011-09-08 Thread Filiprino
Did someone receive this bug / feature request?

This is a critical usability bug.

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