[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-02-28 Thread Stéphane Graber
I can confirm one can now select Jerusalem, though it sometimes requires
2-3 clicks for the map to cycle through the nearby cities.

The search also seems to work for me, looking for the various cities
mentioned in the blog post.

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-02-27 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:timezonemap

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-02-27 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package libtimezonemap - 0.3.2

---
libtimezonemap (0.3.2) precise; urgency=low

  * Use AC_CHECK_LIBM. Thanks Loic Minier!
  * Cycle through timezones on mouse clicks within a 10 pixel square box
of the previous click (LP: #905754).
 -- Evan Dandrea e...@ubuntu.com   Mon, 27 Feb 2012 19:13:49 +

** Changed in: libtimezonemap (Ubuntu Precise)
   Status: Triaged = Fix Released

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-02-27 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/libtimezonemap

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-02-27 Thread Martin Pitt
Stephane says that this doesn't actually require an ubiquity fix, it's
using libtimezonemap's .gir.

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise)
Milestone: ubuntu-12.04-beta-1 = None

** No longer affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise)

** No longer affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-02-22 Thread Steve Langasek
Evan, with Colin out I think the ubiquity bits fall to you as well.  Is
this on track for beta1?

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise)
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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-02-01 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: libtimezonemap (Ubuntu Precise)
Milestone: precise-alpha-2 = ubuntu-12.04-beta-1

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise)
Milestone: precise-alpha-2 = ubuntu-12.04-beta-1

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-01-30 Thread Kate Stewart
** Tags added: rls-mgr-p-tracking

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-01-27 Thread Colin Watson
Supporting multiple clicks would do, I think.  Do you have time to
either do this or walk me through it for alpha-2?

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2012-01-25 Thread Evan Dandrea
Colin,

We have population weight in the geonames.org data, so it's a
possibility for Internet-connected installs.

I had a look through the code, and while there used to be functionality
to go to the next closest location on multiple clicks in the same
*exact* area (we should expand this to a small radius), this was dropped
when we picked up the C port of the timezone map.

Part of fixing this bug should be adding that functionality back.  I
also chatted with Matthew Paul Thomas about making the ability to do
this a bit more obvious, but neither of us had any good ideas there.

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
** Also affects: libtimezonemap (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
I've done some investigation here.  I think the fix is beyond me, and
I'd appreciate Evan's help here.

There does not appear to be a core problem with the data; the
Asia/Jerusalem timezone is listed in libtimezonemap, if I use the
TimezoneMap widget in isolation I can get it to return Asia/Jerusalem to
me for certain x/y combinations, and instances of ubiquity.tz.Database
know about Asia/Jerusalem.

However, it's no wonder that requiring absolutely pixel-perfect mouse
positioning doesn't always work very well.  Even after setting up a
TimezoneMap widget in isolation that's exactly the same size as the one
rendered by ubiquity (751x277, established visually) and managing to get
it to select Asia/Jerusalem, I can't be certain that that's possible in
ubiquity itself.  I think we need a small rethink of how mouse operation
of the map works with small regions.  We don't have a great deal of
installer development time this cycle, so I'm not proposing anything
large, but this does need some attention.

Jan (comment #2) is correct that we used to have a zoom facility on the
map.  Unfortunately it caused extensive problems of its own and we
eventually removed it a few releases ago.  Jeremy (comment #6) is also
correct that you can simply type in a city name.  That's not too bad as
a workaround, but the mouse-navigation facility is present and should
therefore work well, not just sort-of-well.  As evidenced by this bug,
only working sort-of-well is a liability.

I have some thoughts on how this might be improved, but I'd like Evan's
feedback on those, as they will certainly involve interface extensions
to libtimezonemap.  The current library interface is as follows: you
click on a point and get a signal back telling you about the closest
location to that point.  Inside the library, it sorts all the locations
in the timezone database by their Euclidean distance from that point.
If the library offered some way to get hold of the sorted list, rather
than merely the first element in the sorted list, then we could do a
much better job of the UI in ambiguous cases.

As far as the UI is concerned, there are a few possibilities I can think
of that would be better than the current behaviour.  We could allow you
to click repeatedly on the same point, or close by (not everyone will
have the motor coordination to click on the exact same x/y coordinates
more than once, and it's harder with a mouse than with a trackball or
trackpad), and cycle through the top n nearby locations.  Alternatively,
we could set the closest location but also pop up a drop-down box with
the top n nearby locations, so that it's obvious that you can select
another one without having to enter its name directly.

** Changed in: libtimezonemap (Ubuntu Precise)
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: libtimezonemap (Ubuntu Precise)
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: libtimezonemap (Ubuntu Precise)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Evan Dandrea (ev)

** Changed in: libtimezonemap (Ubuntu Precise)
Milestone: None = precise-alpha-2

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
(Please note that most of the other relevant people who might be able to
help with this bug are now on holiday until 2012, so I ask for your
patience.)

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-19 Thread Colin Watson
In http://liorkaplan.wordpress.com/2011/12/17/cant-select-my-country-on-
the-ubuntu-installation-map/#comments, Russ Allbery suggests applying
population weighting.  I can see the appeal of that.  On the other hand,
it seems like a lot of volatile data to have to keep up to date, and
we'd still have to deal with much the same problem; if you live in
location A, it doesn't really help you to know that more people live in
nearby location B.

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
I'll have a look tomorrow, thanks.  I can tell you authoritatively that
this isn't intentional, though!

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-18 Thread Colin Watson
** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Medium = High

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Colin Watson (cjwatson)

** Also affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise)
   Importance: High
 Assignee: Colin Watson (cjwatson)
   Status: Triaged

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise)
Milestone: None = precise-alpha-2

** Tags added: rls-mgr-p-tracking

** Tags removed: rls-mgr-p-tracking
** Tags added: rls-p-tracking

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-18 Thread Jeremy Bicha
As a workaround, you should be able to type in a city name instead of
clicking on the map.

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-18 Thread Ahmed Shams
@Ronen, Would you guys help on this by just spreading the word that
there's no politics in this, no need to jump for guesses or causing fuss
that can be harmful to the community without a big need, please? Thanks
in Advance.

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-17 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-17 Thread Jan Claeys
It's also very difficult (or impossible?) to click several other small
countries (e.g. Belgium, Luxembourg, ...).  Maybe the map can click
through to a more detailed regional map (I think this was in the
installer in the past, so this might be a regression?) which makes
clicking the right country/timezone more easy?

In case of Belgium this is mostly just annoying (I can click it if I try
10 times or so, or I can search in the textbox below), but in the case
serfus points to, this can have serious unintended political, economical
 social side-effects, which makes it more important...

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-17 Thread Ahmed Shams
** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = Low

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-17 Thread serfus
like JanC mentioned, I am worried this might cause a big fuss in Israel and 
bring unwanted disputes.
as the Israeli contact, i really want to keep the LoCo free of politics and 
such.
so it's important for me that we can sort it all out before the release.

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-17 Thread Ahmed Shams
** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Low = Medium

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[Bug 905754] Re: Israel is not on the installer map

2011-12-17 Thread Ronen
I join Jan and serfus, this looks bad and definitely must be fixed soon
as end users aren't always aware if bug are intentional or not

Ubuntu should be left out of politics

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