[Bug 90973] Re: Add/Remove applications bad usability

2007-03-12 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
I cannot confirm this: My feisty apply button is disabled after
installing applications. Which version do you use?

Apply and ok have got different functions: ok buttons close the
dialog/app after applying the changes. Many users know about this
difference - I know this since I have received bug reports about user
interfaces that did not follow this policy.

** Summary changed:

- Add/Remove applications bad usability
+ Apply button doesn't get disabled after installing apps

** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu)
   Status: Rejected => Needs Info

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[Bug 90973] Re: Add/Remove applications bad usability

2007-03-11 Thread Eugenia Loli-Queru
I agree with you that changing the buttons is not great usability (I try
to follow the HIG too). However, the way it is now is that I got
confused more than once! After an installation got through, the apply
button should either not be there or get disabled. And also, the "ok"
button must not carry the same usage as the "apply" button does after
you have checked some apps for de/installation. Because then you have
two buttons that do the same thing.

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[Bug 90973] Re: Add/Remove applications bad usability

2007-03-11 Thread Sebastian Heinlein
GNOME-app-install is part of a GNOME based desktop. That is the reason
why the user interface follows the HIG recommendations as far as
possible. GNOME-app-install is NOT an instant apply dialog/application.
So using explicit apply buttons seems to be a good choice.

Hiding or exchanging widgets on runtime is bad usability. It leads to
confusion. A stable user interface gives the user orientation and a more
secure feeling in using the app. Furthermore your suggestion doesn't
take a11n into account, since it would break most screen readers.

I agree that the generic ok button is not a perfect solution. I would
prefer real terms that describe the action behind the button. But this
would result in quite large buttons: "Install/Remove and close" and
"Install/Remove".

Finally many user would complain about having to click on close after
applying the changes (see some old fixed bugs of update-manager). If
apply also closes the dialog you would remove the possiblity from the
user to install software step by step without having to restart g-a-i.

Feel free to reopen the bug if you don't agree.

Cheers,

Sebastian

** Changed in: gnome-app-install (Ubuntu)
   Status: Unconfirmed => Rejected

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[Bug 90973] Re: Add/Remove applications bad usability

2007-03-10 Thread Pascal De Vuyst
** Changed in: Ubuntu
Sourcepackagename: None => gnome-app-install

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