[Bug 934770] Re: Trackpad behavior change causes tap-and-drag to lock

2012-02-22 Thread Pat McGowan
synclient LockedDrags=0 restores the previous behavior but this of
course resets each boot. Previous behavior being the selection ends when
the finger is raised.

I do not see selections start in a single tap when LockedDrags is
enabled. A double tap is required to begin, and a single tap or timeout
to release.

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[Bug 934770] Re: Trackpad behavior change causes tap-and-drag to lock

2012-02-22 Thread Christopher Kyle Horton
I should probably also note that, at least on my laptop, dragging things
isn't the only activity adversely affected by this. Trying to hold down
spinbox buttons, for example, causes them to continue to
increase/decrease at a high rate until an extra tap is used to stop it,
which is slower than just releasing the trackpad. So at least in the
case of spinboxes, this change makes them much more difficult to use
when trying to quickly spin up/down to a certain value, especially at
times when the extra needed click occasionally doesn't register and you
end up rocketing all the way to the maximum/minimum allowed value.

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[Bug 934770] Re: Trackpad behavior change causes tap-and-drag to lock

2012-02-22 Thread Doug McMahon
This bug wasn't  initially just about locked drags nor intended user
actions.  It was and still should be considering the poor behavior that
the current settings will produce for common users like myself who have
a basic synaptics touchpad

In that case there are continual unintended highlighting, grabbing of text or 
files and temp loss of the left click. Myself  others like me shouldn't have 
to be figuring out the synclient parameters  running commands to gain the 
expected  full use of our touchpads. 
So there should be a visible option to return to that, in System Settings, a 
Start up option, whatever.

At least here this is what returns my touchpad to being useful 
prevents ALL the unintended  nonsense from occurring

synclient LockedDrags=0 TapButton1=1 TapButton2=3 TapButton3=2

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[Bug 934770] Re: Trackpad behavior change causes tap-and-drag to lock

2012-02-21 Thread Chase Douglas
** Description changed:

+ Since xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 1.5.0+git20120210-0ubuntu2, tap-and-
+ drag locking has been enabled by default. This is a behavior change.
+ When a tap-and-drag is started, it will continue until a tap ends it
+ (effectively depressing the left mouse button). The change is an effort
+ to provide an alternative click-and-drag method for clickpads, where
+ dragging farther than the size of the trackpad is not possible.
+ 
+ This bug is for collating feedback. If the change is adversely affecting
+ you, please note it by clicking the green link at the top of this page
+ This bug affects x people. Does this bug affect you? Please do not add
+ extra comments unless absolutely necessary.
+ 
+ Original bug description
+ 
+ 
  Not sure if proper source, wasn't the utouch libs
  
  Recently here  with others the left click 'select' has been 'randomly'
  getting stuck on, causing the cursor to select everything in it's  path
   otherwise be unresponsive, ie. nothing can be clicked on.
  
  At least here the effect lasts for about 20 -30 sec's,  when it happens
  if stopping all activity the cursor  control return in that time frame
  
  It is also seen on occasion as a 'stuck' grab, same deal, nothing can be
  done till something releases.  Additionally I've a few instances where
  suddenly the left click is non-functional, again control returns within
  20 -30 sec's
  
  With a little practice have been able to cause this to happen within a few 
attempts, basically moving the cursor with left button depressed (highlight) 
combined with a small tap.
  So will attach 2 video's with short descriptions
  
  Disabling 'tap to click' has prevented this from happening inadvertently
  over a day long test
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04
  Package: libutouch-geis1 2.2.5-0ubuntu1
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-16.25-generic-pae 3.2.6
  Uname: Linux 3.2.0-16-generic-pae i686
  ApportVersion: 1.91-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: i386
  Date: Sat Feb 18 01:15:48 2012
  InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin - Alpha i386 (20120216)
  MachineType: Dell Inc. XPS M1330
  MtDevices: No capable devices found...
  ProcEnviron:
   PATH=(custom, no user)
   LANG=en_US.UTF-8
   SHELL=/bin/bash
  ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-16-generic-pae 
root=UUID=e5d89c99-ea87-4066-adde-b104f1d05dd6 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7
  SourcePackage: utouch-geis
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)
  dmi.bios.date: 12/26/2008
  dmi.bios.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.bios.version: A15
  dmi.board.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.chassis.type: 8
  dmi.chassis.vendor: Dell Inc.
  dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnDellInc.:bvrA15:bd12/26/2008:svnDellInc.:pnXPSM1330:pvr:rvnDellInc.:rn:rvr:cvnDellInc.:ct8:cvr:
  dmi.product.name: XPS M1330
  dmi.sys.vendor: Dell Inc.

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[Bug 934770] Re: Trackpad behavior change causes tap-and-drag to lock

2012-02-21 Thread _oOMOo_
 It was a requested feature by people with clickpad devices
 because it was very difficult to click and drag before.
 
 I am monitoring feedback from users about this and other
 changes. If many people find it to be a problem, we can
 consider reverting it. I'm merely trying to weigh the benefits
 and advantages.


IIRC it used to be that when selecting, a release of pressure on the touchpad 
stopped the selection - so the addition of a positive action to stop selecting 
is, at least to me, a benefit.

However it is the unwanted selection of text that is a problem. Before
this patch, a double tap and movement was required to begin selecting
text - now it seems a single tap triggers selection. Programming in
Geany using the touchpad to move around code is very trying.

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