[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2014-06-29 Thread Magesh GV
The issue is seen on Ubuntu 13.04 also. Although in my case it is not a
real physical machine but a VM running ubuntu.

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2014-06-29 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2013-11-05 Thread Doug Smythies
I did not realize that I hadn't previously given a link to my related web notes:
http://www.smythies.com/~doug/network/hd_race/index.html

@andi3: you could get this bug report confirmed by clicking that this
effects you also. (although I see that you did not subscribe, and
myself, I don't currently have a way to test further at the moment)

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2013-11-05 Thread Doug Smythies
I remain of the opinion that the root issue here is a subtle timing issue.
I spent a tremendous amount of time on this. I have thrashed two old PATA 
drives to death. Now, the most recent drive I recovered and am using does not 
have the issue (the drive is a little slower than the others I had tried in the 
past).

Yes, I must have mistyped that bug number reference, but now a year and
half later and from what little I recall about it, I don't think it is
relevant.

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2013-11-05 Thread A. Eibach
Thanks a lot for your hard work in investigating this issue, very
appreciated!

I've been fighting with this IRQ problem for almost 2 years now.  Same thing as 
you reported, those random "soft resetting link" messages and drive resets out 
of the blue.
Unfortunately, no one wants to tackle this issue, which I believe is also a bug 
deeply rooted in the 3.x kernels.

The only way out _for me_ was just playing dice with the drives: swapping what 
is on the external PCI IDE/SATA controller, until there are no more errors. 
It's like human beings: some pairs just would not match. :) 
It can, however, get quite time-consuming with lots of drives, and 4 hours of 
continuous "reswap-reboot" cycles are not rare at all. But once it works, it 
will keep working, so it pays off after all :)

BTW I'm sick and tired of hearing "your drive is faulty". NO. IT'S NOT! It will 
sometimes just work solely on the onboard SATA controller and not on _any_ SATA 
controller card plugged into the PCI port.
Besides, I am pretty sure that people even tossed out their innocent drives 
just because that kernel or udev bug (or feature?!) drove them insane.

P.S. bug 978384 either does not exist, was removed or you mistyped the
bug number. Gives me a 404 here...

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2013-02-05 Thread Doug Smythies
>From post #22 above: "Why? The rule is for "sr" or "removeable" devices.
The hard disk is an "sd" device. Why does the change result in issues
with the hard disk?"

The reason is that the single udev rule change that "introduced" this
issue, actually just created a new, and more probable, way to
demonstrate a pre-existing issue.

The motherboard has two IDE controllers, the primary uses interrupt 14
and the secondary uses interrupt 15. It turns out that those two
interrupts do not co-habitat well, and perhaps never did. The single
line udev rule change that started this whole saga, also created a
steady stream of interrupt 15's, even if the CD-ROM drive was not being
used. The hard drive was on the primary IDE controller, using interrupt
14. The CD-ROM drive was on the secondary IDE controller using interrupt
15. Before, the single line udev rule change, there was never an
interrupt 15 if the CD-ROM drive was not being used.

So now the question becomes why do the two interrupts not work well
together, particularly when one considers that they are so very basic to
IDE and PATA systems?

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2013-01-18 Thread Doug Smythies
Issue persists with up to date 13.04 (devlopment). Reverting the one
line (see post #22) in /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules to
the pre revision 2760 state fixes the issue. I went back and forth a few
times. After editing the file run "sudo update-initramfs -u" then re-
boot(and that is so very much easier than what I was doing, re-compiling
the whole kernel).

doug@test-smy:~$ uname -a
Linux test-smy 3.8.0-0-generic #4-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 15 20:39:36 UTC 2013 i686 
i686 i686 GNU/Linux
doug@test-smy:~$ dpkg -l | grep udev
ii  libudev0:i386 175-0ubuntu17i386 
udev library
ii  udev  175-0ubuntu17i386 
rule-based device node and kernel event manager

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-11-20 Thread Doug Smythies
Issue persists with 13.04 (development), which is not surprising since
the udev version is the same.

doug@test-smy:/$ uname -a
Linux test-smy 3.7.0-2-generic #8-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 16:21:20 UTC 2012 i686 
i686 i686 GNU/Linux
doug@test-smy:/$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 3.7.0-2-generic (buildd@aatxe) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 
4.7.2-5ubuntu7) ) #8-Ubuntu SMP Thu Nov 15 16:21:20 UTC 2012
doug@test-smy:/$ dpkg -l | grep udev
ii  libudev0:i386 175-0ubuntu13  i386 
udev library
ii  udev  175-0ubuntu13  i386 
rule-based device node and kernel event manager

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-10-16 Thread Doug Smythies
The issue has been isolated to the single line change of launchpad
revision 2760 (while revision 2761 edits the same line again, the
results are the same).

 Specifically: in the file rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules, this line:
 ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sr*", ATTR{events_poll_msecs}=="0", 
ATTR{events_poll_msecs}="2000"
 works fine, but when it is changed to this (2760):
 ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="sr*", ATTR{events_poll_msecs}=="-1", 
ATTR{events_poll_msecs}="2000"
 or this (2761 and subsequent):
 ACTION=="add", ATTR{removable}=="1", ATTR{events_poll_msecs}=="-1", 
ATTR{events_poll_msecs}="2000"
 the problem exists.

 Why? The rule is for "sr" or "removeable" devices. The hard disk is an
"sd" device. Why does the change result in issues with the hard disk?

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-10-16 Thread Doug Smythies
Issue persists with 12.10 and udev 175-0ubuntu13.

Workaround: If not being used unplug the CD-ROM.

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-11 Thread Doug Smythies
Basically this diff file shows stuff as expected.

These tests were all done with packages built that were basically
175-0ubuntu9 but with Launchpad revision number 2761 taken out and
either 2759 or 2760 put back. (for whatever reason 9.1 was not available
yet).

Summary: the one line change introduced with revision 2760 causes the 
occasional 30 second lock up on the computer. However, it remains unclear as to 
why.
 

** Attachment added: "differecnes between the above 4 posts. Both diffs in one 
file"
   
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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-11 Thread Doug Smythies
** Attachment added: "attribute walk for CD drive with 175-0ubuntu9 with 2761 
put to 2759"
   
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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-11 Thread Doug Smythies
** Attachment added: "attribute walk for CD drive with 175-0ubuntu9 with 2761 
put to 2760"
   
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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-11 Thread Doug Smythies
** Attachment added: "attribute walk for HD with 175-ubuntu9 with 2761 put to 
2760"
   
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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-11 Thread Doug Smythies
Posting a few files that may or may not be of interest.


** Attachment added: "attribute walk for HD with 175-0ubuntu9 with 2761 put to 
2759"
   
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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-08 Thread Doug Smythies
** Tags removed: bot-comment kernel-bug-exists-upstream

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-08 Thread Doug Smythies
I wrote a program to help demonstrate the issue. It is now my preferred method 
of test.
Finally, I have been able to compile and make the .debs that I was missing.
Now the issue has been isolated as having being introduced in udev 175-0ubuntu7.
It seems most likely to have been introduced with either revision 2760 or 2761.
Now I will try to figure out how to build 2760 and 2761 (I have 2759 because it 
= 175-0ubuntu6).


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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-08-06 Thread Doug Smythies
The new udev, 175-0ubuntu9.1, does not fix this problem.
I have not been able to compile udev yet to be able to isolate things further. 
I have been using http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/ as a reference.

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-05-02 Thread Joseph Salisbury
** Package changed: linux (Ubuntu) => udev (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Medium => Undecided

** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => New

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-05-02 Thread Doug Smythies
This issue has been isolated down to the "udev" package.

Using "udev 175-0ubuntu6"  the disk I/O is fine
Using "udev 175-0ubuntu9" the intensive disk bashing test fails.

The test has been repeated now a few times of starting from a fesh
installation of the 2012.03.27 ISO, verifying things work properly, then
making only the one package upgrade change, and then verifying that the
disk test fails.

doug@test-smy:~/temp-kernel$ diff b3_pkg.txt b3_udev.txt
390c390
< ii  udev 175-0ubuntu6   rule-based 
device node and kernel event manager
---
> ii  udev 175-0ubuntu9   rule-based 
> device node and kernel event manager

The next step will be to attempt to isolate the exact change within that
package.

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-25 Thread Doug Smythies
The error even of posting 11 above was during re-boot and not during the disk 
thrashing test as I originally thought.
I have not seen the error during re-boot before.

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-25 Thread Doug Smythies
As mentioned in the original bug report, everything works fine starting from a 
fresh installation of the 2012.03.27 ISO.
This includes with any kernel.
Once "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get upgrade" are done, then any and 
every kernel shows this issue.

Starting from a fresh install of the 2012.03.27 ISO, only 2 package changes 
were made via:
"sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs e2fslibs"
Then the problem of this bug report was present.
Before and after package list differences:

doug@test-smy:~/temp-kernel$ diff -b pkg_list1 pkg_list2
< ii  e2fslibs1.42-1ubuntu1  
ext2/ext3/ext4 file system libraries
< ii  e2fsprogs   1.42-1ubuntu1  
ext2/ext3/ext4 file system utilities
---
> ii  e2fslibs  1.42-1ubuntu2  
> ext2/ext3/ext4 file system libraries
> ii  e2fsprogs 1.42-1ubuntu2  
> ext2/ext3/ext4 file system utilities

I got the source code for e2f2progs and see a lot of files dated March
30. What I would like to do is compare with the source code for version
1.42ubuntu1, but I don't know how.

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-23 Thread Doug Smythies
In my original posting, I did not mention that I had also tested a bunnch of 
mainline kernels, and always had this issue.
I tested 3.4RC4 this morning, and it has the issue of the bug posting. The 
edited kern.log file is attached.

Even if the issue did not appear with kernel 3.4RC4, I would be
reluctant to call this issue solved. Why? Two reasons: First, the
execution of what I am using as a test for this, "sudo update-apt-
xapian-index --force", is very different for kernel 3.3.2 and 3.4RC4
taking only an average of 23 minutes instead of an average of 45 minutes
to an hour previously; Second, since this seems to be some race
condition how do we know that some subtle change is merely hiding it,
with the underlying root issue still there? (It could be argued that the
root underlying issue was always there, and it was a subtle change that
revealed it to begin with. O.K. but I doubt it, because I have been
running Ubuntu server edition on this computer for several years, and
have never seen this before). It is for these reasons that I was trying
to narrow down and find the actual code change that introduced the
issue. Then the plan would be to test with and without the change to
verify (i.e. a single variable test).

For reference:
doug@test-smy:~/temp-kernel$ uname -a
Linux test-smy 3.4.0-030400rc4-generic-pae #201204230908 SMP Mon Apr 23 
13:23:25 UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
doug@test-smy:~/temp-kernel$ cat /proc/version
Linux version 3.4.0-030400rc4-generic-pae (apw@gomeisa) (gcc version 4.4.3 
(Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5.1) ) #201204230908 SMP Mon Apr 23 13:23:25 UTC 2012


** Attachment added: "Edited kern.log for Kernel 3.4RC4"
   
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** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Incomplete => Confirmed

** Tags removed: needs-upstream-testing
** Tags added: kernel-bug-exists-upstream

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-23 Thread Joseph Salisbury
Would it be possible for you to test the latest upstream kernel?  Refer
to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelMainlineBuilds . Please test the latest
v3.4kernel[1] (Not a kernel in the daily directory).  Once you've tested
the upstream kernel, please remove the 'needs-upstream-testing' tag(Only
that one tag, please leave the other tags). This can be done by clicking
on the yellow pencil icon next to the tag located at the bottom of the
bug description and deleting the 'needs-upstream-testing' text.

If this bug is fixed in the mainline kernel, please add the following
tag 'kernel-fixed-upstream'.

If the mainline kernel does not fix this bug, please add the tag:
'kernel-bug-exists-upstream'.

If you are unable to test the mainline kernel, for example it will not boot, 
please add the tag: 'kernel-unable-to-test-upstream'.  
Once testing of the upstream kernel is complete, please mark this bug as 
"Confirmed".


Thanks in advance.

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.4-rc3-precise/

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Incomplete

** Tags added: needs-upstream-testing

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-22 Thread Brad Figg
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-22 Thread Doug Smythies
My best guess is that this should be package="linux"
I do see acticity for ata_piix.c around the right time frame, but I cann't find 
the dated change history for the file.

** Package changed: ubuntu => linux (Ubuntu)

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-21 Thread Doug Smythies
Believe me, I have been trying to figure out the proper package to
relate this bug to. For two reasons: First, for proper filing of this
bug; Second, so that I can investigate further myself.

I also can not get "apport-collect 986654" to work because the computer
is a server only, and it seems to want to start some web browser.

I found bug 929545, which seems possibly related except that the dates
for changes don't agree. I also see that ata_piix stuff doesn't change
for the issue being present or not (see attachment).


** Attachment added: "output from " grep ata_pii /var/log/kern.log""
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/986654/+attachment/3097820/+files/ata_piix.txt

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-21 Thread Doug Smythies
** Attachment added: "output from "sudo lspci -vnvn" as suggested in notes"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/986654/+attachment/309/+files/lspci.txt

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-21 Thread Doug Smythies
I made a mistake with the version in my orignal posting above. The
listed versions were as the system was running, and tested, at at the
time of writing this bug report. The actual conditions for most of the
testing and attachments were with the original kernel from the
2012.03.27 ISO or:

Linux test-smy 3.2.0-20-generic-pae #32-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 22 02:43:40 UTC 2012 
i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Linux version 3.2.0-20-generic-pae (buildd@roseapple) (gcc version 4.6.3 
(Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.3-1ubuntu3) ) #32-Ubuntu SMP Thu Mar 22 02:43:40 UTC 2012

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-21 Thread Doug Smythies
** Attachment added: "Package differences - unedited (in case I removed 
something that matters earlier)"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/986654/+attachment/3097774/+files/pkg_diff.txt

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-21 Thread Doug Smythies
** Attachment added: "Package differences edited -remove obvious not related 
ones."
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/986654/+attachment/3097773/+files/pkg_diff_edit.txt

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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-21 Thread Doug Smythies
For these two lines in the edited kern.log.txt file:

Apr 20 23:49:33 test-smy kernel: [ 4662.839710] Clocksource tsc unstable (delta 
= 303994203 ns)
Apr 20 23:49:33 test-smy kernel: [ 4662.841953] Switching to clocksource pit

I do not think the clock was actually unstable. I think it got out of
sync because of the freeze and then was interpreted as unstable. I have
no real proof, though.

** Attachment added: "edited Kern.log file during events"
   
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[Bug 986654] Re: disk I/O race condition after update

2012-04-21 Thread Doug Smythies
** Tags added: precise

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