RE: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2009-10-07 Thread dave graham
This is unusual, as the

e1000e_nvm -r –d eth0 -o ethtool.dmp

command normally dumps out the 1Gb portion of the system flash even if
it _does_ have a bad checksum, and then I've been fixing the checksum 
content. Are you sure that there isn't an ethtool.dmp file created in
the local directory from which you ran e1000e_nvm ?

If there really is no ethtool.dmp, please send me

1) lspci -tv
2) lspci -xxx
3) dmesg (that includes the failure of the e1000e driver to load)

and I'll send you an instrumented driver that will dump out the 1Gb
flash content, and we may be able to fix it from there.

At least I hope so. As I say, I've fixed a lot of these corruptions, but
do not recall seeing this particular failure mode before.

Dave



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From: boun...@canonical.com [mailto:boun...@canonical.com] On Behalf Of 
bonsiware
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:26 AM
To: Graham, David
Subject: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and 
ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

Burned the iso, followed your instructions, but:

eth0 EEprom len 4096
checksum ed0e wrong should be 830e

So I can't send you my ethtool.dmp

My notebook is a Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook E8410


Thank you Dave!!!

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Status in “linux” package in Mandriva: Fix Released
Status in “linux” package in Suse: Fix Released

Bug description:
In some circumstances it appears possible for the 2.6.27-rc kernels to corrupt 
the NVRAM used by some Intel network parts to store data such as MAC addresses.
This is limited to the new e1000e driver, and reports have only appeared from 
users of 82566 and 82567 based LAN parts (ich8 and ich9) (to quote Intel). 
The reports seem to be isolated to laptops, but it is not clear if this is 
because desktop/server parts are not vulnerable, or if use cases simply 
increase the chances of laptop users being hit.

Once this corruption has occurred, recovery may be possible via a BIOS
update, but may well require replacement of the hardware. Use of Intel's
IABUTIL.EXE is strongly discouraged, as it will worsen the problem to
the point where the network part will no longer appear on the PCI bus.

(this is a new description, the original one was based on too much guesswork. 
Below are the URLs originally referenced)
(the driver i blacklisted in Ubuntu for  2.6.27-rc in the latest releases, so 
if your network is not working, it doesn't have to be damaged, but just 
disabled in order to prevent any accidents until this bug is solved, don't 
wary!) 
http://www.blahonga.org/~art/rant.html (search for em0)
http://www.mail-archive.com/e1000-de...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00360.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/e1000-de...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00398.html

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RE: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2009-10-07 Thread dave graham
Thanks,

I still don't understand how it is that e1000e_recover didn't work for you, but 
I admit that
I have been using it as a tool, and don't understand its inner workings. 

Let's try another approach to get the invalid NVM content listed, this time
by the driver when it reads the data. I attach a patch 
e1000e-1.0.15.shownvm.patch 
which can be applied our latest e1000e sourceforge release.
To install the driver, and collect that result , please proceeed as follows

1) Copy this patch to a local directory
2) Download e1000e-1.0.15.tar.gz from  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/e1000/files/
3) Untar the tarball to a local directory,
 tar xvzf e1000e-1.0.15.tar.gz
4) cd e1000e-1.0.15/src
5) Apply the patch
patch -p2 ../../e1000e-1.0.15.shownvm.patch
6) Remove the old driver, build  install the new one
rmmod e1000e
make 
insmod e1000e.ko
7) The system message log should have the NVM content that was read.

The driver should also load even in the presence of the errored NVM. Please let 
me know whether it does load
and work, and .send me the dmesg log that includes the NVM dump, and I will see 
if I can fix it up and return
it to you with instructions on how to apply the fixed-up version,

Thanks
Dave


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Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:28 AM
To: Graham, David
Subject: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 
and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

lspci -tv:

+-19.0  Intel Corporation 82566DC Gigabit Network Connection

lspci -xxx:
00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DC Gigabit Network 
Connection (rev 03)
00: 86 80 4b 10 03 01 10 00 03 00 00 02 00 00 00 00
10: 00 00 40 fe 00 40 42 fe 21 18 00 00 00 00 00 00
20: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 86 80 00 00
30: 00 00 00 00 c8 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0b 01 00 00

dmesg:
[1.652371] e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - 1.0.2-k2
[1.652374] e1000e: Copyright (c) 1999-2008 Intel Corporation.
[1.652440] e1000e :00:19.0: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16
[1.652447] e1000e :00:19.0: pci_enable_pcie_error_reporting failed 
0xfffb
[1.652456] e1000e :00:19.0: setting latency timer to 64
[1.652628]   alloc irq_desc for 28 on node -1
[1.652630]   alloc kstat_irqs on node -1
[1.652647] e1000e :00:19.0: irq 28 for MSI/MSI-X
[1.739443] ohci1394 :1c:03.4: PCI INT A - GSI 16 (level, low) - IRQ 16
[1.757784] :00:19.0: :00:19.0: The NVM Checksum Is Not Valid
[1.787486] e1000e :00:19.0: PCI INT A disabled
[1.787495] e1000e: probe of :00:19.0 failed with error -5

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Bug description:
In some circumstances it appears possible for the 2.6.27-rc kernels to corrupt 
the NVRAM used by some Intel network parts to store data such as MAC addresses.
This is limited to the new e1000e driver, and reports have only appeared from 
users of 82566 and 82567 based LAN parts (ich8 and ich9) (to quote Intel). 
The reports seem to be isolated to laptops, but it is not clear if this is 
because desktop/server parts are not vulnerable, or if use cases simply 
increase the chances of laptop users being hit.

Once this corruption has occurred, recovery may be possible via a BIOS
update, but may well require replacement of the hardware. Use of Intel's
IABUTIL.EXE is strongly discouraged, as it will worsen the problem to
the point where the network part will no longer appear on the PCI bus.

(this is a new description, the original one was based on too much guesswork. 
Below are the URLs originally referenced)
(the driver i blacklisted in Ubuntu for  2.6.27-rc in the latest releases, so 
if your network is not working, it doesn't have to be damaged, but just 
disabled in order to prevent any accidents until this bug is solved, don't 
wary!)
http://www.blahonga.org/~art/rant.html (search for em0)
http://www.mail-archive.com/e1000-de...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00360.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/e1000-de...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00398.html


** Attachment added: e1000e-1.0.15.shownvm.patch
   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/33264068/e1000e-1.0.15.shownvm.patch

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-17 Thread zika
I have downloaded LiveCD for AMD 64 and for x86 64 yesterday and when
I tried AMD 64 version as a LiveSession I was not able to use network
on a computer that I use now to write this message  :)) (now I an
writing in Hardy) so it is not yet released AFAIAC.

On 10/17/08, Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 jagdfalke: Please see the top of the page, it's marked as Fix Released

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 Status in linux source package in Mandriva: Fix Released
 Status in linux source package in Suse: Fix Released

 Bug description:
 In some circumstances it appears possible for the 2.6.27-rc kernels to
 corrupt the NVRAM used by some Intel network parts to store data such as MAC
 addresses.
 This is limited to the new e1000e driver, and reports have only appeared
 from users of 82566 and 82567 based LAN parts (ich8 and ich9) (to quote
 Intel). The reports seem to be isolated to laptops, but it is not clear if
 this is because desktop/server parts are not vulnerable, or if use cases
 simply increase the chances of laptop users being hit.

 Once this corruption has occurred, recovery may be possible via a BIOS
 update, but may well require replacement of the hardware. Use of Intel's
 IABUTIL.EXE is strongly discouraged, as it will worsen the problem to the
 point where the network part will no longer appear on the PCI bus.

 (this is a new description, the original one was based on too much
 guesswork. Below are the URLs originally referenced)
 (the driver i blacklisted in Ubuntu for  2.6.27-rc in the latest releases,
 so if your network is not working, it doesn't have to be damaged, but just
 disabled in order to prevent any accidents until this bug is solved, don't
 wary!)
 http://www.blahonga.org/~art/rant.html (search for em0)
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00360.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00398.html


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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-17 Thread zika
I am very sorry that I have missused this place. I hope that You will
be able to forgive and forget. I am just an old guy ... ;)

I will wait for official release.

Thank You very much.
Once again sorry for the noise.

On 10/17/08, hefeweiz3n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For your Information: Launchpad is NOT a support forum, in future
 situations please refer to the forums. As for your Problem: The driver
 is fixed in the current kernel-release, but as the live-cd still ships
 with the old kernel, networking is of course disabled with this card. I
 recommend waiting for the final release or downloading the new kernel-
 packages onto a usb-stick or similar and installing them by hand. As of
 HOW to do that, please refer to the forums.

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 Status in linux source package in Suse: Fix Released

 Bug description:
 In some circumstances it appears possible for the 2.6.27-rc kernels to
 corrupt the NVRAM used by some Intel network parts to store data such as MAC
 addresses.
 This is limited to the new e1000e driver, and reports have only appeared
 from users of 82566 and 82567 based LAN parts (ich8 and ich9) (to quote
 Intel). The reports seem to be isolated to laptops, but it is not clear if
 this is because desktop/server parts are not vulnerable, or if use cases
 simply increase the chances of laptop users being hit.

 Once this corruption has occurred, recovery may be possible via a BIOS
 update, but may well require replacement of the hardware. Use of Intel's
 IABUTIL.EXE is strongly discouraged, as it will worsen the problem to the
 point where the network part will no longer appear on the PCI bus.

 (this is a new description, the original one was based on too much
 guesswork. Below are the URLs originally referenced)
 (the driver i blacklisted in Ubuntu for  2.6.27-rc in the latest releases,
 so if your network is not working, it doesn't have to be damaged, but just
 disabled in order to prevent any accidents until this bug is solved, don't
 wary!)
 http://www.blahonga.org/~art/rant.html (search for em0)
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00360.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00398.html


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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-06 Thread Benjamin Prosnitz
For those who got this working on the 2.6.27-5.4 kernel.  Does the newer
2.6.27-5.5 kernel that is in the repositories now also work for you?

On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:10 AM, mrbean71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know if open a new bug. I think e1000e have some problem here
 result of furter investigation.
 Same behaviour from 27.3 and 27.5 (in the last driver is not blacklisted).
 Sometime network work out of the box, sometime network work out of the box
 sometimes I need to:

 sudo modprobe -r e1000e
 sudo modprobe e1000e

 now I'm writing with 27.5 kernel and removed added driver two times to
 make it work.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-06 Thread Juan Cuevas
Hi,

I confirm that it works for me. I just update the kernel to 2.6.27-5. In a
first moment it seemed to do nothing, but I just did:

sudo ifconfig eth0 down
sudo ifconfig eth0 up

And that was all, my network started to be ok.

Bye,


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Investigador - Grupo GASURE
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la desigualdad económica y la opresión intelectual. - Eduardo Umaña Luna.


On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 07:10, mrbean71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know if open a new bug. I think e1000e have some problem here
 result of furter investigation.
 Same behaviour from 27.3 and 27.5 (in the last driver is not blacklisted).
 Sometime network work out of the box, sometime network work out of the box
 sometimes I need to:

 sudo modprobe -r e1000e
 sudo modprobe e1000e

 now I'm writing with 27.5 kernel and removed added driver two times to
 make it work.

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 Status in linux source package in Fedora: Confirmed
 Status in linux source package in Gentoo Linux: Confirmed
 Status in linux source package in Mandriva: Fix Released
 Status in linux source package in Suse: In Progress

 Bug description:
 In some circumstances it appears possible for the 2.6.27-rc kernels to
 corrupt the NVRAM used by some Intel network parts to store data such as MAC
 addresses.
 This is limited to the new e1000e driver, and reports have only appeared
 from users of 82566 and 82567 based LAN parts (ich8 and ich9) (to quote
 Intel). The reports seem to be isolated to laptops, but it is not clear if
 this is because desktop/server parts are not vulnerable, or if use cases
 simply increase the chances of laptop users being hit.

 Once this corruption has occurred, recovery may be possible via a BIOS
 update, but may well require replacement of the hardware. Use of Intel's
 IABUTIL.EXE is strongly discouraged, as it will worsen the problem to the
 point where the network part will no longer appear on the PCI bus.

 (this is a new description, the original one was based on too much
 guesswork. Below are the URLs originally referenced)
 (the driver i blacklisted in Ubuntu for  2.6.27-rc in the latest releases,
 so if your network is not working, it doesn't have to be damaged, but just
 disabled in order to prevent any accidents until this bug is solved, don't
 wary!)
 http://www.blahonga.org/~art/rant.htmlhttp://www.blahonga.org/%7Eart/rant.html(search
  for em0)
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00360.html
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00398.html


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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-06 Thread Steve Langasek
 The fix was not in 20081004 but it should be in 20081005 and is
 definitely in 20081006.  Therefore any of the ISO would have the correct
 kernel.

No, 20081007 will be the first daily image that includes this module
again.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-05 Thread Benjamin Prosnitz
2.6.27-5 fixed my problems, just to confirm that this works for some
people.

On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 4:09 PM, mrbean71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all, my NIC won't work with any 2.6.27 kernel, now i'm writing from:

 Linux marcoPC 2.6.24-21-generic #1 SMP Mon Aug 25 17:32:09 UTC 2008 i686
 GNU/Linux

 This is lspci result:

 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562V-2 10/100 Network
 Connection (rev 02)

 It seems card is recognized from 2.6.27.5 but don't work, I can make up
 and down with ifconfig with no result.

 It prefectly work rebooting 2.6.24-21. If you need I wan't help to
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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-04 Thread Anil
once you have the kernel running do modprobe e1000e

On Saturday 04 October 2008 4:07:43 pm Simon Sigre wrote:
 Since the Kernel upgrade i still appear to be having some troubles with
 the network card; im using an X200 laptop that ships with a 82566DC-2
 network card;
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
 Linux penfold 2.6.27-5-generic #1 SMP Fri Oct 3 00:38:23 UTC 2008 i686 
 GNU/Linux
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo lshw
*-network UNCLAIMED
  description: Ethernet controller
  product: 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection
  vendor: Intel Corporation
  physical id: 19
  bus info: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:00:19.0
  version: 03
  width: 32 bits
  clock: 33MHz
  capabilities: pm msi cap_list
  configuration: latency=0
 *-usb:0
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo cat /var/log/dmesg | grep e1000
 [2.567349] e1000e: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Driver - 0.3.3.3-k4
 [2.567352] e1000e: Copyright (c) 1999-2008 Intel Corporation.
 [2.567394] e1000e :00:19.0: PCI INT A - GSI 20 (level, low) - IRQ 20
 [2.567405] e1000e :00:19.0: setting latency timer to 64
 [2.636692] e1000e :00:19.0: PCI INT A disabled
 [2.636708] e1000e: probe of :00:19.0 failed with error -5
 
 
 I went straight from 2.6.27.4 -- .5 could that be it?


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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-03 Thread Shwan
Please ask in the forum not here

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Daniel Kutik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 How could I install this fix manually (not over the internet).
 At the time I've got no other connection as a wired. Is there a possibility 
 to update the system via usb stick?

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 Status in linux source package in Mandriva: Confirmed
 Status in linux source package in Suse: In Progress

 Bug description:
 In some circumstances it appears possible for the 2.6.27-rc kernels to 
 corrupt the NVRAM used by some Intel network parts to store data such as MAC 
 addresses.
 This is limited to the new e1000e driver, and reports have only appeared from 
 users of 82566 and 82567 based LAN parts (ich8 and ich9) (to quote Intel). 
 The reports seem to be isolated to laptops, but it is not clear if this is 
 because desktop/server parts are not vulnerable, or if use cases simply 
 increase the chances of laptop users being hit.

 Once this corruption has occurred, recovery may be possible via a BIOS 
 update, but may well require replacement of the hardware. Use of Intel's 
 IABUTIL.EXE is strongly discouraged, as it will worsen the problem to the 
 point where the network part will no longer appear on the PCI bus.

 (this is a new description, the original one was based on too much guesswork. 
 Below are the URLs originally referenced)
 (the driver i blacklisted in Ubuntu for  2.6.27-rc in the latest releases, so 
 if your network is not working, it doesn't have to be damaged, but just 
 disabled in order to prevent any accidents until this bug is solved, don't 
 wary!)
 http://www.blahonga.org/~art/rant.html (search for em0)
 http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg00360.html
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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-03 Thread Steve Langasek
 Will You update/rebuild beta cd/dvd images once fix is released?

No.  The fix will be included in the subsequent daily images, in the release
candidate image, and in the final release.

 It should be at least mentioned as warning in release anouncement.

It was.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-03 Thread Benjamin Prosnitz
You could also probably just put the kernel packages on a flash drive, and
install them manually.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 2:32 PM, Steve Langasek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Will You update/rebuild beta cd/dvd images once fix is released?

 No.  The fix will be included in the subsequent daily images, in the
 release
 candidate image, and in the final release.

  It should be at least mentioned as warning in release anouncement.

 It was.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-02 Thread Lorenzo Zolfanelli
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, vjohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 So, the Intel haven't opened the code of your hardware? So, how it's
 happen?


It's happen because it isn't a stable kernel release, and because linux is
developed by humans, and they might make mistakes. And I think the linux
testing team was to small to reveal this bug.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-02 Thread Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen
And because, after they learned about the problem, they failed to
communicate effectively and never removed the cd-image.

This has never happened before, and obviously there was no policy for this
situation. Which automatically means that some developpers turn into 'its
your fault'-mode and be less supportive of the community members who have
bricked their hardware. It turned into a blame game.

There were more it's an alpha .. you knew what you were getting it to 
expressions than any compassion. Worse, appearantly its easier to type it's
an alpha ..  off course it's going to break your hardware .. and you test on
your own risk .. 10 times .. than to put a warning up. At least: it was
said at least 10 times before the warning was up.

That speaks volumes about priority. And the image is still available and
linked to from many places that do not contain the warning.

The mistake was just an oopsie .. the aftermath, how it was being dealt
with, (and still is) .. a PR horror.

2008/10/2 Lorenzo Zolfanelli [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 7:46 PM, vjohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  So, the Intel haven't opened the code of your hardware? So, how it's
  happen?
 

 It's happen because it isn't a stable kernel release, and because linux is
 developed by humans, and they might make mistakes. And I think the linux
 testing team was to small to reveal this bug.


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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-02 Thread Amon_Re
Hi,

Quoting vjohn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi people, sorry by angry message, but I'm realy needing my onboard   
 network working in gnu/linux... Yesterday I have installed m$   
 windows in my machine to test the onboard network card (for   
 something it's work! hehe)

You definatly should *NOT* be running Alpha or Beta software on a  
work-critical machine, the workarround is to install an older kernel,  
see the big warning topic on the forums.
(http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5882185postcount=38)


 and it work fine in windows... only in  linux box have the The NVM  
 Checksum Is Not Valid... So the network  card remain working... Of  
 course the gnu/linux is develloped by  humans, but the kernel team  
 need do more testing in new releases,

What do you think the point is of Beta  Alpha releases? To test the  
code on a larger ecosystem containing alot more diverse hardware, the  
whole discussion is pointless anyway, people clearly don't read  
warnings or even solutions when they're staring them in the face.

 because have a great responsability in thousands machines runing   
 this great operating system!
 Thanks a lot and I will wait the solution, when it appear...
 Vinicius

If my reply sounds abit bitter, it's probably because i am, there's  
been alot of whining  wailing about how they were supposed to do this  
 that  pull iso's etc etc etc etc ad infinitum, blah

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-02 Thread Thomas McKay
What make's an alpha or beta tester's hardware less valuable than the
hardware the final release is installed on? In many cases it is the same
hardware.

While I agree many install alpha or beta releases when they shouldn't, a
large number of people are actually working to do testing, and their
complaints are valid. If I or anybody sounds like they are whining 
wailing it is because their hardware is valuable, and they are doing a
service to you and everybody else.

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Amon_Re [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Quoting vjohn [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi people, sorry by angry message, but I'm realy needing my onboard
  network working in gnu/linux... Yesterday I have installed m$
  windows in my machine to test the onboard network card (for
  something it's work! hehe)

 You definatly should *NOT* be running Alpha or Beta software on a
 work-critical machine, the workarround is to install an older kernel,
 see the big warning topic on the forums.
 (http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5882185postcount=38)


  and it work fine in windows... only in  linux box have the The NVM
  Checksum Is Not Valid... So the network  card remain working... Of
  course the gnu/linux is develloped by  humans, but the kernel team
  need do more testing in new releases,

 What do you think the point is of Beta  Alpha releases? To test the
 code on a larger ecosystem containing alot more diverse hardware, the
 whole discussion is pointless anyway, people clearly don't read
 warnings or even solutions when they're staring them in the face.

  because have a great responsability in thousands machines runing
  this great operating system!
  Thanks a lot and I will wait the solution, when it appear...
  Vinicius

 If my reply sounds abit bitter, it's probably because i am, there's
 been alot of whining  wailing about how they were supposed to do this
  that  pull iso's etc etc etc etc ad infinitum, blah

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-02 Thread moschops
So can we expect an Ubuntu Alpha 7 with this Intel provide eeprom
protection patch and the removal of the e1000 blacklisting?  This will
allow me to continue testing Intrepid on a machine with e1000 (and it
needs at least Alpha 6 anyway because it has GMA 45000 graphics).  Or
is the hope that beta will wait for this critical problem to be fixed.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-10-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 02, 2008 at 10:53:21AM -, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
 Indeed the alpha release should have been replaced in a hurry by a new
 release with the module blacklisted. What I see from outside is that
 the burocratic need to release images only at established dates is
 preventing a well known practice - release a fixed iso in a hurry - to
 happen.

This is not bureaucratic.  A working milestone image can't be produced at
random, it takes approximately a week to prepare and validate a set of
images and we can only muster one of these once every two weeks (at best).
Doing a new alpha release right would have meant deferring the beta; doing
it wrong is no better than just deleting the images, since there's no
guarantee they'll work.

This does not mean that the Ubuntu developers don't care about the integrity
of testers' hardware (and I would appreciate it if the various apologists,
who are not Ubuntu developers, would stop claiming that users should expect
the possibility of hardware damage).  However, the alpha milestones are
targeted at testers who are part of the development community, they're not
intended for general consumption - people using these images should be
subscribed to ubuntu-devel-announce, where notice of the problem has been
posted, so making the alpha images unavailable for download is really not
warranted and would only hinder getting necessary feedback from users who
don't have the affected hardware.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen
@JavaJake
What more can they do?

Well, they could:

a) Pull the images immediately, instead of entering a discussion just
how import the hardware of those who volunteer to test really is.

b) Put the warning on planet-ubuntu,  instead of entering a discussion
just how import the hardware of those who volunteer to test really is.

c) Put out a security bulletin,  instead of entering a discussion just
how import the hardware of those who volunteer to test really is.

d) Shout it at on IRC, instead of entering a discussion just how
import the hardware of those who volunteer to test really is.

e) Upload a blacklist-fix immediately,  instead of entering a
discussion just how import the hardware of those who volunteer to test
really is.

YES THESE THINGS CAN HAPPEN.

But like with a security flaw; it's all about HOW FAST and IF YOU CARE
they respond.
The first things that people will read about this bug, after it
destroyed their hardware is that they shouldn't complain: it's alpha
software ..

WHAT KIND OF POLICY IS THIS?

I mean, the comment asking for suggestions of the text yesterday ..
seems to indicate that nobody was in a hurry ..

Colin .. a question for you... between the time you asked for
suggestions of the possible warning text and the time that an actual
warning test was put on the release notes .. ..how many people have
downloaded? You have the information .. in the very best case only 10%
or something will be affected.

Might be an interesting number to consider.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread Chris Jones
Hew McLachlan wrote:
 Ravindran, it looks like you are affected. Here's a list of affected
 devices taken from
 http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/302000834931?r=202000364931#202000364931

That looks kinda like it's just a list of PCI IDs claimed by the driver.

AFAIK there is no indication thus far that things like server parts are
affected, but it's likely that those systems would be less likely to
trigger the bug in the first place, so, to the best of my knowledge,
it's currently unclear exactly which systems are at risk (hence
blacklisting/removing the entire e1000e module)

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread John Dong
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Pelládi Gábor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Can this bug destroy hardware even if Intrepid alpha 6 is run as a guest
 on a stable Hardy? That is, does a virtual machine protect my hardware
 from this bug?


No, it cannot. It may or may not be capable of damaging the virtual
machine's virtual e1000 card though (I think I read one report of this!)

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread Jesse Brandeburg
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Leonardo Silva Amaral wrote:
 Ive created a VERY stupid script to find if the system have a NIC
 vulnerable to the faillure (Used the list from
 http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/302000834931?r=202000364931#202000364931)
 
 Here is: http://pastebin.com/f6e9042ad

Please update your script wtih the list from this thread.  The first list 
lists every intel adapter, which is quite a bit of overkill.

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/283000364931

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread Leonardo Silva Amaral
Em Wednesday 24 September 2008 13:18:53 Jesse Brandeburg escreveu:
 On Wed, 24 Sep 2008, Leonardo Silva Amaral wrote:
  Ive created a VERY stupid script to find if the system have a NIC
  vulnerable to the faillure (Used the list from
  http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/30200083493
 1?r=202000364931#202000364931)
 
  Here is: http://pastebin.com/f6e9042ad

 Please update your script wtih the list from this thread.  The first list
 lists every intel adapter, which is quite a bit of overkill.

 http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/283000364931

OK! Updated! http://pastebin.com/f201dac8c

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread Steve Langasek
 I'm sorry to say that but I think this will be the last time I'll run
 Ubuntu Alpha on my machine. I'm willing to help, but I have to be 100%
 sure that Ubuntu developers have very CLEAR policy on what will be
 pushed in the repositories for testing.

Such a policy can do nothing to address bugs like this one that are unknown
at the time the upload is pushed to the repositories.  We're not about to
make empty promises that no Ubuntu alpha can ever damage your hardware - the
best we can do is to ensure that if we become aware of such a problem, we
publicize this by the same channels we used to solicit testing to begin
with.

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread Leonardo Silva Amaral
Em Wednesday 24 September 2008 14:27:31 Peter Frühberger escreveu:
 Please fix your script, you are printing awk $1, this is not what you
 want to compare, use $3. Please do not post scripts, which the user
 thinks he is secure.

 I am affected - and your script said not.

 Peter
 PS: I wrote myself a script in perl, i will NOT post this. Please Ubuntu
 Developers post a working script, which users are not in false safety!

 You are affected! 00:19.0 0200: 8086:1049 (rev 03)

Fix released: http://pastebin.com/f3d063ed6

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-24 Thread Leonardo Silva Amaral
Em Wednesday 24 September 2008 20:36:41 Brian Murray escreveu:
 ** Attachment removed: DETECT_INTEL_E1000E_BUGGY.sh

http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17925250/DETECT_INTEL_E1000E_BUGGY.sh

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-23 Thread sog
For those that might be interested in testing the Alpha, but has an at risk
machine, is there an accepted workaround that removes the e1000e driver
without jeopardizing the hardware?

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Re: [Bug 263555] Re: [intrepid] 2.6.27 e1000e driver places Intel ICH8 and ICH9 gigE chipsets at risk

2008-09-23 Thread -Zeus-
The only place where I can find official download links to the
BitTorrent is at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-6/,
where the warning exists.

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