Re: [Bug 1215586] Re: The u/i cannot handle the array-of-dictionaries update descriptions

2014-05-21 Thread Barry Warsaw
On May 21, 2014, at 09:22 AM, Iain Lane wrote:

what are we supposed to do with those descriptions? Perhaps this means that
the server isn't providing what we want yet?

At one time, the server was going to give i18n'd human readable descriptions.
I don't know whether the current behavior is because the ui couldn't do
anything with them, or whether the information is not available when the
server crafts the index.json files.  If the i18n descriptions won't be
available on the server, then it seems pointless to want to expose i18n
descriptions in the API and ui.  If that's the case, let's close this bug as
won't fix.  Stephane?

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Re: [Bug 1215586] Re: The u/i cannot handle the array-of-dictionaries update descriptions

2014-05-21 Thread Stéphane Graber
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:34:08AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
 On May 21, 2014, at 09:22 AM, Iain Lane wrote:
 
 what are we supposed to do with those descriptions? Perhaps this means that
 the server isn't providing what we want yet?
 
 At one time, the server was going to give i18n'd human readable descriptions.
 I don't know whether the current behavior is because the ui couldn't do
 anything with them, or whether the information is not available when the
 server crafts the index.json files.  If the i18n descriptions won't be
 available on the server, then it seems pointless to want to expose i18n
 descriptions in the API and ui.  If that's the case, let's close this bug as
 won't fix.  Stephane?

So far we've never bothered write those descriptions (I just put the
channel info in the description at the moment) or get any of that
translated, but I'd expect that when we hit RTM we'll be asked to do it.


Pushing updates to end users without a localized description is IMO
unacceptable, so this feature is still going to be required down the
line.

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Re: [Bug 1215586] Re: The u/i cannot handle the array-of-dictionaries update descriptions

2014-05-21 Thread Iain Lane
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 02:48:44PM -, Stéphane Graber wrote:
 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 09:34:08AM -0400, Barry Warsaw wrote:
  On May 21, 2014, at 09:22 AM, Iain Lane wrote:
  
  what are we supposed to do with those descriptions? Perhaps this means that
  the server isn't providing what we want yet?
  
  At one time, the server was going to give i18n'd human readable 
  descriptions.
  I don't know whether the current behavior is because the ui couldn't do
  anything with them, or whether the information is not available when the
  server crafts the index.json files.  If the i18n descriptions won't be
  available on the server, then it seems pointless to want to expose i18n
  descriptions in the API and ui.  If that's the case, let's close this bug as
  won't fix.  Stephane?
 
 So far we've never bothered write those descriptions (I just put the
 channel info in the description at the moment) or get any of that
 translated, but I'd expect that when we hit RTM we'll be asked to do it.
 
 
 Pushing updates to end users without a localized description is IMO
 unacceptable, so this feature is still going to be required down the
 line.

So that we can implement this, could you put some dummy information in
there? It can be just lorem ipsum in a few languages (not actually
translated), but it'll be enough to write the user interface and then we
can actually display it when it is provided properly.

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