Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4

2008-07-01 Thread Trond Husoe
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 06:14 +, Rockwalrus wrote:
 I've been working on a package for 3.4 since RC1.  I just uploaded a
 source package to my [[https://launchpad.net/~rock-gimp/+archive ppa]].
 It is based off of the never-released packaging for 3.3 in debian's pkg-
 java svn.  There are a few major issues:
 
  * Help indexing causes memory corruption, which leads to a crash.  This
 seems to be a gcj-4.2 issue; other jvms don't seem to have this problem.
 Unfortunately, the source package is set up to build with gcj, so some
 of the help file packages never get built.  Furthermore, if you try to
 search help files installed using the update manager while running under
 gcj, eclipse crashes.
 
  * The Eclipse source build lost the ability to compile the SWT native
 libraries sometime between RC1 and the final release.  This package uses
 the .so files that come in the upstream tarball.
 
  * There are several jars that were replaced with symlinks to jars in
 /usr/share/java.  Since the 3.4 versions have had osgi properties added
 to their manifests, this isn't a safe transformation anymore, so those
 files aren't replaced with symlinks anymore.
 
  * P2 doesn't work.  If you enable classic update, you can still use it
 to install new plugins from update sites.
 
 Despite all that, I've found it to be reasonably stable and much more
 useful to me than the 3.2 packages in Hardy.
 
It seems to me that a good idea would be to help out Rockwalrus with
the building.

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Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4

2008-06-27 Thread Trond Husoe
How can we then turn it into a package for Hardy?

-t-

On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 21:05 +, John Paulett wrote:
 Eclipse 3.4 installed from source works well in Hardy.
 http://jhcore.com/2008/06/26/eclipse-34-ganymede-on-ubuntu/


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Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4

2008-06-27 Thread Don Smith
I believe the problem is that currently there are several jvms, if
openjdk were the only one, wouldn't it make java packaging simpler?

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Marcus Sundman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, no, no! The automatix crap is NOT the way to go with a deb-based
 distro! That would just open the door for serious problems when those
 root-privileged scripts malfunction (which they eventually will do, e.g.
 when they aren't updated fast enough when the packages at
 www.eclipse.org are updated).

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Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4

2008-06-27 Thread Ashton Batty
Yes, it probably would, though I don't think that is a major issue.
I think it is people taking it on, without realising how much work is
really required. Especially with the new P2 plugins system, simply
updating the old packages isn't enough.
My thoughts, if anyone wants to package Eclipse, start with just the
Eclipse Platform and JDT, release as early and frequently as possible,
and add plugin packages one at a time. Target only openjdk 6. And if
you change your mind, please let others know. There have been a
handful of people say they will start adopt Eclipse, and then are
never heard from again.


On Sat, Jun 28, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Don Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe the problem is that currently there are several jvms, if
 openjdk were the only one, wouldn't it make java packaging simpler?

 On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Marcus Sundman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No, no, no! The automatix crap is NOT the way to go with a deb-based
 distro! That would just open the door for serious problems when those
 root-privileged scripts malfunction (which they eventually will do, e.g.
 when they aren't updated fast enough when the packages at
 www.eclipse.org are updated).

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Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4

2008-06-26 Thread Trond Husoe
Is there something we as complainers can do to make this build under
Ubuntu 7.10- 
Instead of continuing to complain, maybe we should take action. I
totally agree that 3.3- should be an option in Gutsy/Hardy.

best
trond

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Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4

2008-06-26 Thread Ashton Batty
I've used 3.3 in both Gutsy and Hardy. There is some conflicting
package(s) you need to remove first, though I don't remember which.

On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Trond Husoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there something we as complainers can do to make this build under
 Ubuntu 7.10-
 Instead of continuing to complain, maybe we should take action. I
 totally agree that 3.3- should be an option in Gutsy/Hardy.

 best
 trond

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Re: [Bug 123064] Re: Upgrade to Eclipse 3.4

2008-05-22 Thread Trond Husoe
On Thu, 2008-05-22 at 09:16 +, Jean Azzopardi wrote:
 If I knew how to generate a package for eclipse, I'd definitely do it. If I 
 hadn't the exams coming up next week, I'd be learning how to do it right now 
 :(
 Could you post a few pointers as to how to generate ubuntu packages, and what 
 eclipse should rely on/what relies on eclipse, etc?

Since this bug has been filed for some time, I think that a week or more
is not the matter. I wouldn't mind trying to help out either.

-trond-

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