Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-03-10 Thread Romano Giannetti

On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 18:30 +, enigma_0Z wrote:

> If it works (like it does for me), the whole desktop will freeze for
> roughly the same time as when starting up.

I tried it, but nautilus resumes in normal times... so it's something
else for me. 

I have a gut feeling:

I am trying kernel 2.6.25-rc, which works very well for my laptop, minus
the fact that sometime the gnome login fails with strange dbus messages:
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10041 . Now the thing is that
when it happens, the login continues and I can enter gnome without my
setting, but _there is no delay_. So I suspect that the delay some kind
of timeout on dbus/socket interaction of gnome-settings-daemon.

Romano

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-03-09 Thread Kyle M Weller
yes I'll be glade as well, how can I graph my startup as well?

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-03-09 Thread Kyle M Weller
Yes I agree, HARDY TAKES FOREVER TO BOOT! gosh! it really sucks lol,
but hardy looks nice tho :]

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-03-08 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> did you read the graph correctly? it indicates that feisty login takes
> 15 seconds where gutsy takes 22 seconds and hardy 29 seconds
>

Yes, but it has been the experience of a large part of this thread that
Gutsy is nowhere near only 22 seconds.  More like double that.  In my
experience, Hardy is faster than Gutsy.  It's definitely closer to Feisty
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-02-10 Thread bereanone

On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:52 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote:

> Those comments are not really constructive, there is no obvious bug
> there and the issues described might be a collection of different  
> things
> and incorrect user configurations. I did new dapper, feisty and gutsy
> installation on a non-too-new machine some days ago using the same
> partition and looked at the login speed there. Dapper takes 15 seconds
> from gdm login validation to an usuable desktop loaded, feisty takes  
> 18
> seconds, gutsy takes 26 seconds. Without deskbar-applets in the
> configuratin there is almost no difference between feisty and gutsy.  
> The
> login is clearly slower nowadays but that's only some seconds on a
> default installation and can be explained by the features added since
> dapper. Now it's likely that some users run into differents bugs, but
> ideally whoever has the issue should try to look at if a stock user  
> has
> the same slowness, if not using tracker, deskbar-applet, compiz etc
> change the speed, etc and comment there
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-02-10 Thread bereanone
Your comments were not really constructive, helpful, or nor do they in  
anyway acknowledge a very real problem with an ubuntu installation  
gone very wrong.  It takes nearly 5 minutes to boot. Nothing that I  
have done changed any configuration other then stock installation.  I  
have enjoyed the look into the Unix world enough however that I  
decided to give Unix a closer look and finally bought a Mac.   
Hopefully with professional coordinated support I will not experience  
the same problems.  If the lack of support in the Ubuntu community  
breeds frustration in new users, it is hardly a fix for more  
experienced users to take the tack of less that constructive criticism  
of that frustration.  Reeling off benchmarks of seconds means  
absolutely NOTHING to those forced to wait nearly 5 minutes for THEIR  
particular machine to boot up.

On Feb 7, 2008, at 4:52 AM, Sebastien Bacher wrote:

> Those comments are not really constructive, there is no obvious bug
> there and the issues described might be a collection of different  
> things
> and incorrect user configurations. I did new dapper, feisty and gutsy
> installation on a non-too-new machine some days ago using the same
> partition and looked at the login speed there. Dapper takes 15 seconds
> from gdm login validation to an usuable desktop loaded, feisty takes  
> 18
> seconds, gutsy takes 26 seconds. Without deskbar-applets in the
> configuratin there is almost no difference between feisty and gutsy.  
> The
> login is clearly slower nowadays but that's only some seconds on a
> default installation and can be explained by the features added since
> dapper. Now it's likely that some users run into differents bugs, but
> ideally whoever has the issue should try to look at if a stock user  
> has
> the same slowness, if not using tracker, deskbar-applet, compiz etc
> change the speed, etc and comment there
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-02-08 Thread bonsiware
some people have this problem since gutsy:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/128803

there's someone who has tricked with bootchart to let it log login process
too...

On Feb 8, 2008 4:10 AM, sweetsinse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> agreed that tip/link from Jean-François worked very well.
>
> i still get the flashing gnome-panels and am seeking a solution to that,
> the readahead hack sped everything up..  i would make a bootchart but i
> have changed things, but the blackout after my gnome-panels dissapears
> is less than 10 seconds now, nearly half the time.
>
> very nice thank you.
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-02-06 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
I've been using Fluxbox for the last couple weeks, but then, I don't think
this (borrowed) laptop would handle GNOME too well.  Mine needs to have a
lot of hardware replaced :(

On Feb 6, 2008 9:48 PM, bereanone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Actually I gave up a long time ago. I went out and bought a mac.  At least
> it's version of unix is supported.  Support from Ubuntu is a little sad...
>
>
> On Feb 6, 2008 8:30 PM, Stevie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hmpf, no solution yet? this is pretty annoying.
> >
> > the devs seem not really to care...
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-02-06 Thread bereanone
Actually I gave up a long time ago. I went out and bought a mac.  At least
it's version of unix is supported.  Support from Ubuntu is a little sad...


On Feb 6, 2008 8:30 PM, Stevie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hmpf, no solution yet? this is pretty annoying.
>
> the devs seem not really to care...
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2008-01-14 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
You mean the one that tells your system's hostname?

On Jan 14, 2008 6:31 AM, Romano Giannetti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a very similar problem. After a bit of digging I found an entry
> for 127.0.1.1 (notice: .1.1, not .0.1) in my /etc/hosts. I commented it
> and now the gnome starts fast like in Feisty.
>
> But: why that entry is needed? localhost is on 127.0.0.1, no? Since
> 1986, no :-)?
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-12-19 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
That's what I have too, but I think if you comment out the part where it
picks between ccp and gconf, and you use ccp, then you don't get any of the
advanced configuration stuff. Actually, if you don't let either load, it'd
probably just freak out and not load because it wouldn't have any settings.

On Dec 19, 2007 4:34 AM, shz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> pepito,
>
> In my PC there is a /usr/bin/compiz script (not compiz.start).
>
> The only thing about gconf in the script is:
>
> # load the ccp plugin if present and fallback to plain gconf if not
> if [ -f ${PLUGIN_PATH}libccp.so ]; then
>COMPIZ_PLUGINS="$COMPIZ_PLUGINS ccp"
> elif [ -f ${PLUGIN_PATH}libgconf.so ]; then
>COMPIZ_PLUGINS="$COMPIZ_PLUGINS glib gconf"
> fi
>
> Do I have to comment out this block?
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-12-18 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
/usr/bin/compiz-start?  That file doesn't exist for me.  I'm not using gconf
bindings for my compiz either--I'm using ccsm's settings, so my compiz line
in ps -aef is
compiz.real --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp
--indirect-rendering


On Dec 18, 2007 11:28 AM, pepito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> EDIT TO MY POST:
>
> I was wrong:
>
> gnome was not 15 secs, but 35 secs as many of you.
> I updated the config, removed an env variable that was dodgy and also
> edited /usr/bin/compiz-start and removed in it the gconf option as it was
> telling me this was already set up.
> Then I added to my gnome session this /usr/bin/compiz-start  and removed
> all other emerald/ compiz things from the Session menu.
> Logged out
> Login in 2 secs!
>
> So the problem is in gconf I dare say... try to have a look
> it seems that it is loaded twice?
>
>
> Another thing I can t sort out:
> a ps -ux tells me i m running the gtk-window-decorator --replace
> i don t want this one to be used, but my emerald theme.
>
> >From a terminal, if i type emerald --replace, everything is just fine,
> perfect, as I want it to be.
> But I can t add this in the Session Menu: it just not works, as if it were
> not there.
> Any idea?
>
>
> Many thanks! Hope I have helped somehow!
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-12-08 Thread Raymond Y
Actually I am having the same problem too...
>From GDM login until my desktop is fully loaded, i takes about 40 seconds.
I spent whole day trying to find out the problem (including following the
instructions in the bug report) but none work for me...

Jeff, 34 seconds is still considered a long login time in my opinion, edgy
loaded much faster than this. Actually, my desktop with gusty loaded much
faster than my laptop.

On Dec 8, 2007 10:40 PM, dennda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am not perfectly sure that it is network-managers fault either.
> I properly removed it but the difference wasn't that huge.
> I still need to check that on other systems, though.
>
> Isn't there any proper way to tell which process takes how long during
> login?
> If that was possible we could easily find out what is making this huge
> difference (that needs to be fixed as far as I am concerned).
>
> Any hints on that?
>
> regards
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-12-03 Thread Mathieu Laurent
I didn't use nvidia and I have this problem.

seb128, do you know how we can help you to solve this bug ?

2007/12/3, #Reistlehr- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> For me, if i disable the nvidia driver, gnome does not slow on boot.
> Only when the driver is initialized, do i experience problems.
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-11-15 Thread Jeff Fortin
2007/11/15, sweetsinse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> sorry for the lengthy post; i want to solve this ;)


No, be proud, not sorry. Thank you very much for doing all this empiric
measuring and testing, you are doing something I that I pretty much gave up
doing (because I lack knowledge and time). You have all my cheers behind you
to keep going! :) I would be so happy one day to have the Promised 3 Seconds
Login Time[1] (I cannot, no matter what I do, go under 30 seconds).

[1]: http://live.gnome.org/GnomePerformance/LoginTime

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-11-13 Thread yop
I have even uninstalled the NManager and also blacklisted my wifi card to no
avail

On Nov 13, 2007 2:28 PM, sweetsinse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> forgot to add one little thing...soo tired...
>
> i tried disabling gnome-at-visual (in session preferences {assistive
> technology/AT}) because the chart showed a strange 2 seconds of zombie
> time after login...  but this did not do anything.  also i seem to have
> misinterpreted the chart referring to nautilus...the pink areas are
> where nautilus seems to be WAITING due to high disk i/o.  the culprit
> here seems to be some kind of change in the networking arena from feisty
> to gutsy...be somewheres in nm-applet/dhcdbd/NetworkManager.
>
> figure it out party ppl.
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-11-04 Thread Kyle Weller
I agree, the importance on allot of bugs are not appropriate and do not get
enough attention as they should, there is bugs that have not ever been fixed
in Ubuntu when other distro's fixed the issues a long time ago...


On 11/4/07, Christoffer Sørensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> @Sebastian:
>
> I consider Arch fast since it takes 20 seconds to load Gnome using that.
> It takes 37 seconds using Ubuntu, so something is slowing Ubuntu down.
>
> No, I'm not using deskbar, it is simply too slow to load.
>
> Also, it does not make sense to compare your load times with mine, since
> I'm using an old laptop.
>
> I'm wondering why the importance is set to Low, when this affects a lot
> users everyday.
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-11-01 Thread Kyle Weller
david u might want to try xubuntu, its faaast

On 11/1/07, David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Same here, when I try to logout on a old p3 500mhs with 384 mb of ram
> with 7.10, it took some minutes to show the logout panel on the screen.
>
> One interesting thing : If, after getting the logout panel, I click
> cancel and try again, there is no delay and a got two more option
> "Hibernate" and "Suspend" witch weren't there the first time
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-10-20 Thread yop
Yep I did a clean install of 7.10,. And it's still slow like

On 10/20/07, coffeemug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Happens to me too on 7.10 final, with or without desktop effects. It
> takes about 30-40 seconds to login. This was not the case in Feisty.
> Starting the very first application is also significantly slower than
> used to be. Everything after that is fast, as usual.
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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-10-19 Thread Kyle Weller
it seems the live cd has the same issue x10 since it loads off a live cd, i
got 1 gig of ram and a 24x drive and feisty live cd loaded in seconds, now
it takes 5 min for gnome to load, it takes a full minute after reboot then
login to load up gnome in gutsy when feisty took 20 secs

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-10-12 Thread Kyle Weller
same w/me panel is now working correctly, thank you for the updates!
Kyle Weller

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-10-11 Thread Kyle Weller
same here the panel does not apear until a click on desktop, gnome still
slow

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-10-10 Thread Kyle Weller
disabling everything unneeded on boot, including bluetooth and printer
svc only saves like 2-3 secs if that... the fact is Ubuntu Gutsy is
much slower on boot up

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-10-10 Thread Kyle Weller
for me gnome is slow and I have 4 gig of ram and a dual 3ghz
processor, feisty on my p4 3 ghz 768 meg ram loads 20 secs faster,
explain that.

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Re: [Bug 128803] Re: [Gutsy] very slow gnome startup

2007-10-09 Thread Kyle Weller
same problem here, i have everything disabled on bootup and it still
takes forever to load compared to feisty

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[Gutsy] very slow gnome startup
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