Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 04:25:16 - Rogério Theodoro de Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:36, KarlGoetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: Given this was filed against ubuntu when Gobuntu was being developed, I'm tempted to suggest this bug should be marked 'invalid'. OK, Took the suggestion into account and changed things. Regards, Thank you, kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK7FOSS) http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group *** I've changed GPG key to 6C097260 *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144006 Title: CC-by-sa reported as non-free To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vrms/+bug/144006/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:37, KarlGoetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote:
please explain why you think this is opinion
Debian opinion != FSF opinion
Furthermore, vrms works by looking at the section of the package to
base its decisions on. If it reports something incorrectly, then there
are two possibilities (which not exclude one from another):
1. there is a bug in vrms
2. there is a bug in the packaging, where an incorrect section of the
package is declared.
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Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:37:20 - Rogério Theodoro de Brito rbr...@ime.usp.br wrote: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 08:37, KarlGoetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote: please explain why you think this is opinion Debian opinion != FSF opinion Indeed. And != Ubuntu opinion too. Furthermore, vrms works by looking at the section of the package to base its decisions on. If it reports something incorrectly, then there are two possibilities (which not exclude one from another): 1. there is a bug in vrms 2. there is a bug in the packaging, where an incorrect section of the package is declared. Given this was filed against ubuntu when Gobuntu was being developed, I'm tempted to suggest this bug should be marked 'invalid'. thanks, kk -- Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK7FOSS) http://www.kgoetz.id.au No, I won't join your social networking group *** I've changed GPG key to 6C097260 *** -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144006 Title: CC-by-sa reported as non-free To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vrms/+bug/144006/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 18:36, KarlGoetz k...@kgoetz.id.au wrote:
Given this was filed against ubuntu when Gobuntu was being developed,
I'm tempted to suggest this bug should be marked 'invalid'.
OK, Took the suggestion into account and changed things.
Regards,
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Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
CC-by-sa is considered free for artistic content by the FSF, and the packages listed as non-free by vrms contains icons et similia. The meaning of vrms is indeed Virtual Richard Matthew Stallman, but it lists packages considered non-free by Debian (that's because was written by Debian developers and not by the FSF). -- CC-by-sa reported as non-free https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144006 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
CC-by-sa it's free for ubuntu (there was a discussion on the gobuntu-devel mailing list). I know that vrms is a debian project, so that it's impossible for us to send a patch upstream (unless debian itself decide that older CC-by-sa licences are indeed free), but ubuntu can do and apply a patch to the vrms packet without sending it to upstream. It's annoying to use vrms and see a list of debian-non-free packages installed on an ubuntu system: on an ubuntu system I want vrms to list packages considered non-free by ubuntu, not debian. -- CC-by-sa reported as non-free https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144006 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
GNU FDL is DFSG free provided the invariant section clauses are not used. Yes, but e.g. autoconf-doc uses the FDL and is still list as non-free; this is because, as long as I know, software from FSF uses the FDL entirely (invariant sections included). -- CC-by-sa reported as non-free https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144006 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 144006] Re: CC-by-sa reported as non-free
I also see autoconf-doc, gdb-doc, manpages-posix, manpages-posix-dev and make-doc between non-free packages, is it right? It sounds strange. Forgive me for the delay, please. Well, vrms is a debian software, so even packages with the GNU FDL are listed as non-free (such as autoconf-doc, for example). In the perspective that the ubuntu freeness policy is (or will be) based on the FSF's one, I think that this package needs a heavy effort for ubuntization. -- CC-by-sa reported as non-free https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/144006 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
