Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-07-14 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2016-07-14 at 16:51 +, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> I'm sorry, I'm as context-swapped as you are...  can you remind me
> why
> it is needed, versus simply having libpam-cgfs setup to give you
> cgroups
> upon login?
We put applications in cgroups to ensure that their PIDs don't escape
and we can kill them all when the app shuts down. The Upstart cgroup
stanza uses cgmanager.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-07-14 Thread Serge Hallyn
I'm sorry, I'm as context-swapped as you are...  can you remind me why
it is needed, versus simply having libpam-cgfs setup to give you cgroups
upon login?

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-07-14 Thread Serge Hallyn
Quoting David Planella (david.plane...@ubuntu.com):
> In my case it's disabled, but even after enabling it manually, I'm
> getting the same errors that I had a few months back:
> 
> "cgmanager:do_create_main: pid 2118 (uid 1000 gid 1000) may not create
> under /run/cgmanager/fs/freezer"

This suggests that libpam-cgm is not installed or configured.  Indeed,
cgmanager should not allow you to create a cgroup in that directory,
as that is the root freezer cgroup.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-07-14 Thread Serge Hallyn
Why is it being *dis*abled?  it's not needed, but it's also not in the
way.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-05-02 Thread Serge Hallyn
> My advice would be to leave the cgmanager portion as Incomplete until
> someone can come up with repo steps, but unfortunately I don't have
> those. Just some ideas.

Yup let's do that - thanks.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-03-18 Thread Serge Hallyn
@David,

please look at /etc/pam.d/common-session.  Do you by chance have
libpam-cgm rather than libpam-cgfs there?  libpam-cgfs does
not require cgmanager running

On the other hand if unity8 itself requires it, then that's that.

And yeah, i guess I do have cgmanager running on my laptop, so I've
not tested it without.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-02-03 Thread Ted Gould
On Wed, 2016-02-03 at 14:55 +, David Planella wrote:
> I've no idea how to restart cmanager, so any guidance in there, would
> be
> great, thanks!
You can use the service tool to control the service. Note you'll need
to start it before logging in.
$ sudo service cgmanager start

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-02-02 Thread Serge Hallyn
I have no idea, unfortunately i've not been able to get far enough with
unity8 to reproduce this.  Could you please restart cgmanager with the
--debug command line option, reproduce, then send me the debug log?

Also show the /proc/self/cgroup output for the task (upstart?) that
does the failed firing off of apps.  Thanks!

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-01-26 Thread Ted Gould
On Tue, 2016-01-26 at 18:09 +, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> What file or dbus call is used to start the upstart job?  Why
> is upstart requiring cgroups?  Is it something you want/need,
> or is it being done inadvertently?
We use the cgroups to track the pids inside a confined application.
This way they can't fork bomb their way out of the application
lifecycle. We do need cgroups.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-01-26 Thread Serge Hallyn
And thanks for testing that!

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-01-26 Thread Serge Hallyn
What file or dbus call is used to start the upstart job?  Why
is upstart requiring cgroups?  Is it something you want/need,
or is it being done inadvertently?

If it's something you need, then unity8 or one of its pieces must
depend on libpam-cgm (soon libpam-cgfs).  If not, then we should
figure out where the dependency is coming from, as it would be
better to not require the extra package if unneeded, obviously.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-01-24 Thread Serge Hallyn
Hm, maybe this is related.  But login is hanging with:

upstart: upstart-event-bridge main process (2252) terminated with status 1
upstart: upstart-event-bridge main process ended, respawning
upstart: update-notifier-crash (/var/crash/_usr_bin_unity8-dash.1000.crash) 
main process (2300) terminated with status 1
upstart: click-user-hooks main process (2238) terminated with status 1
upstart: ubuntu-push-client main process (2522) terminated with status 1

after which the last two lines repeat endlessly (in .xsession-errors, with
increasing pids of course).

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-01-22 Thread Ted Gould
On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 17:36 +, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> So the next two questions would be:  what is pid 2486 (and its
> parent)?
> What is its cgroup?
The PID who is creating the group should be Upstart itself, or a
helper. We are telling Upstart to do it using the "cgroup" field in the
job file. Specifically the job config file has "cgroup freezer".
> and, in the case where it works, what cgroup does the equivalent task
> try to create?
> 

It should be creating "upstart/$job-$instance" so for a legacy instance
of Inkscape the cgroup would be "upstart/application-legacy-inkscape
-23452345", the last number is a timestamp.

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Re: [Bug 1535058] Re: applications close instantly when launched from the launcher or dash

2016-01-22 Thread Serge Hallyn
Thanks, that shows

Jan 22 17:02:36 usertesting-Vostro-3550 cgmanager[588]:
cgmanager:do_create_main: pid 2486 (uid 1000 gid 1000) may not create
under /run/cgmanager/fs/freezer

So the next two questions would be:  what is pid 2486 (and its parent)?
What is its cgroup?

and, in the case where it works, what cgroup does the equivalent task
try to create?

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