Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
@Martin: O . . . the darkness . . . the darkness . . . . My question remains . . . will there be a time in which "ubuntu" gets this straightened out in their upstream "code" for grub . . . or biz as it has been for at least a year . . . the time of "darkness" . . . . Before this time of obscurity in grub2, grub2 actually functioned in the realm of ubuntu . . . then there was an eclipse which has remained and been supported as the "status quo" . . . seemingly not possible to adjust by the devs in charge of ubuntu's grub2 packages??? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
UlfZibis: Interesting to note that your issue also relates to EFI partition, which somewhere several months back I posted that that seemed to be a "commonality" to many of the posters in this bug report . . . . On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 4:41 AM UlfZibis <1863...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I had this problem combined with: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1904076 > > > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
@UlfZibis: On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 4:55 PM UlfZibis <1863...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > I have the same issue on Lenovo T540p and the latest BIOS update. It has > no dual graphics, only Intel. > Instead of the GRUB boot menu I only see a black screen with big "Lenovo" > logotype. After a while, Ubuntu is started automatically, as it is the > first entry in the boot menu. > However, the boot menu is functional with the up/down keys + Enter. > > Starting the PC from an external drive with Ubuntu life media or > MultiSystem USB drive, it's GRUB boot menu is visible as usual. > > -- > Thanks for the update, seems like the issues are continuing . . . my basic appraoch for the last few mnths is to use synaptic for upgrades in ubuntu flavors and NOT upgrade grub2 packages, whereas over in OpenSUSE and Manjaro grub2 upgrades are fine and that keeps my grub working and visible to boot other systems . . . . -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
@Ishrak: I personally hope that you can get a handle on this problem . . . not sure if it goes "upstream" into Debian terrain, because I ran an install of Bullseye Testing yesterday, and at least it didn't wipe out grub listings as ubuntu has in recent months, but it re-ordered them, and had some issue with not being able to launch one of my 6 distros . . . . Again had to get over to TW and run their os-prober command to get it back into shape . . . . I "know" if I boot into Lubuntu and let apt update the various grub packages, likely again grub connections will be wiped and back to SG2 I will have to go . . . . F -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
Hello Fritz, Thank you for your attention. I understand that it is a place for bug reports. My intention was to indicate that I too was experiencing this bug. I added the phrase "please help!" to the end of my post simply to imply a sense of urgency. I decided to report that I was experiencing the bug only after combing through many forums, both those of Canonical as well as third party forums. Many of the issues posted to the forums appear to be related to Ubuntu installations concurrent to existing Windows installations. This is not the case here. Nonetheless, I've tried many of the solutions presented on the forums for both single installations as well as concurrent installations but, unfortunately, none had made any progress in resolving my issue. In the end, I was able to resolve the issue by reinstalling Ubuntu over my old installation. This did not resolve the issue, however, but a solution that worked for the user *orlapa* last May worked for me: https://medium.com/@leijerry888/get-grub-menu-back-after-installing- ubuntu-20-04-alongside-windows-dab5de5afc37 I also used this documentation to verify that I didn't miss anything in trying to configure Ubuntu Desktop to run headless: https://ubuntuusertips.wordpress.com/2014/02/19/turn-ubuntu-desktop- into-an-headless-server/ That said, my post can be removed. I will see about removing it myself. Thanks! On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 10:06 AM Fritz Hudnut <1863...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Salvador Ortiz: > > Just replying to the request for help . . . keep in mind that this is a > "bug report" place, and probably not a place where help will be provided. > This bug has been posted for many months and yet so far appears to be > largely "unaddressed" . . .??? But for actual help you probably should go > to a forum and post your issues there?? > > F > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:06 AM Salvador Ortiz <1863...@bugs.launchpad.net > > > wrote: > > > > > > > When it does boot into Grub it leaves me at a terminal login, as > > expected, but this doesn't happen anymore regardless of how many times i > > reboot or cycle power. I've cleared my BIOS settings, tried booting from > > installation medium (video display was corrupted, making it difficult to > > install in the first place). > > > > No options to recover the machine, access it's disk, etc. Please help! > > > > a short video illustrating the issue described above: > > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U2dYqGBRXP9cyVwuQEwJuVfEPWrLij5l/view > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > -- > > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > > report. > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 > > > > > > > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 > > Title: > 20.04 grub menu not visible > > Status in grub2 package in Ubuntu: > Incomplete > > Bug description: > T430 > Ubuntu MATE 20.04 > > New installation. > > After initial boot there is a blank black screen where grub should be > visible. > Grub is functional but not visible. > > ProblemType: Bug > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 > Package: grub-common 2.04-1ubuntu18 > ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-14.17-generic 5.4.18 > Uname: Linux 5.4.0-14-generic x86_64 > NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia > ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu16 > Architecture: amd64 > CurrentDesktop: MATE > Date: Sat Feb 15 09:19:13 2020 > InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-14 (0 days ago) > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-MATE 20.04 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Alpha amd64 > (20200214) > ProcEnviron: >LANGUAGE=en_US >PATH=(custom, no user) >XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= >LANG=en_US.UTF-8 >SHELL=/bin/bash > SourcePackage: grub2 > UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
Salvador Ortiz: Just replying to the request for help . . . keep in mind that this is a "bug report" place, and probably not a place where help will be provided. This bug has been posted for many months and yet so far appears to be largely "unaddressed" . . .??? But for actual help you probably should go to a forum and post your issues there?? F On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 7:06 AM Salvador Ortiz <1863...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > > > When it does boot into Grub it leaves me at a terminal login, as > expected, but this doesn't happen anymore regardless of how many times i > reboot or cycle power. I've cleared my BIOS settings, tried booting from > installation medium (video display was corrupted, making it difficult to > install in the first place). > > No options to recover the machine, access it's disk, etc. Please help! > > a short video illustrating the issue described above: > https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U2dYqGBRXP9cyVwuQEwJuVfEPWrLij5l/view > > > Thanks! > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 > > > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 8:30 AM Dimitri John Ledkov < 1863...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Can someone please provide clear reproducer instructions? > > Ideally starting with a clean state (i.e. no installs / brand install) > with affected hardware details (model, firmware version numbers, SKU > numbers, etc) > > ** Changed in: grub2 (Ubuntu) >Status: Confirmed => Incomplete > > After initial boot there is a blank black screen where grub should be > visible. > Grub is functional but not visible. > > Gents: A lot of people have had issues with grub in the last 6 months or longer and they posted their data about in this bug report. It appears to relate to "EFI" and possibly how the installer is handling where grub is put when pointed to "efi/boot" . . .?? My case might be more "complicated" because I have 4 internal drives with 5 distros of linux and a few OSX installs. Don't have time for a fresh install right now, but traditionally when running an install I would select "advanced partitioner" and I would point grub to go to the EFI partition of the drive I was installing into . . . and all would go well, on reboot I would hold alt/option key in my '12 Mac Pro, that would fire OSX boot manager which would show available disks to boot from, and the linux options would show as "EFI Boot" and I would select that and that would load Grub. 6 or more months ago, that changed, with a fresh install the grub listing got messed up and finding the "EFI Boot" disk would bring a "grub rescue" screen, in several linux installs grub was "messed up" . . . fortunately I had SuperGrub2 and using that I was able to boot into a linux console and chroot into OpenSUSE where I could run os-prober . . . that after several attempts was enough to get grub "fixed" . . . now if I just "free boot" the computer with no keystrokes, grub shows up and I can pick my system. Possibly that is because I already had Grub installed, so I could run "grub-update" . . . ??? I don't know, but from my non-technical viewpoint it appears that something in the installer is not installing the /boot/EFI file??? for grub, something is going wrong there? Is my "best guess" as to the problem. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
@swnw: Thanks for posting that link on "boot-repair" . . . I think I have an older version of it, but it didn't seem "easy" and it didn't always help out in my multi-boot situation. But, might be worth a try. Interesting that with a new install of ubuntu the problem reappeared, over the years if grub got messed up often times running a fresh install would "fix" grub . . . seemingly in this case, the opposite. On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:31 PM swnw <1863...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote: > Looks like delete is impossible too? > > My problem is probably solved, I wrote "probably" because during the > procedure I can saw few errors which I can't explain, so we'll see. > > I use the first method from the "linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-boot-repair", im > my second PC I disconnected boot HD, then installed Boot-Repair, pressed > "Recomended repair" and restarted Ubuntu 20.04 and Grub menu appeared. So > far so good. > Then I made an experiment, I installed Ubuntu 20.04 with boot HD unplugged > on my old Hitachi 2.5' HD using fresh iso image downloaded fron Ubuntu > download section, prepared new USB bootable pendrive using BalenaEatcher, > started Ubuntu and again Grub menu wasn't visible. > So I installed Boot-Repair repaired procedure as above, saw a few errors > and I can see Grub menu again. Now everything works, so may my method could > be helpful. > > swnw > > -- > You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug > report. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 > > Title: > 20.04 grub menu not visible > > Status in grub2 package in Ubuntu: > Confirmed > > Bug description: > T430 > Ubuntu MATE 20.04 > > New installation. > > After initial boot there is a blank black screen where grub should be > visible. > Grub is functional but not visible. > > ProblemType: Bug > DistroRelease: Ubuntu 20.04 > Package: grub-common 2.04-1ubuntu18 > ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.4.0-14.17-generic 5.4.18 > Uname: Linux 5.4.0-14-generic x86_64 > NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia_modeset nvidia > ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu16 > Architecture: amd64 > CurrentDesktop: MATE > Date: Sat Feb 15 09:19:13 2020 > InstallationDate: Installed on 2020-02-14 (0 days ago) > InstallationMedia: Ubuntu-MATE 20.04 LTS "Focal Fossa" - Alpha amd64 > (20200214) > ProcEnviron: >LANGUAGE=en_US >PATH=(custom, no user) >XDG_RUNTIME_DIR= >LANG=en_US.UTF-8 >SHELL=/bin/bash > SourcePackage: grub2 > UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) > > To manage notifications about this bug go to: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions > -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
BTW . . . I had similar issues with getting my various linux distros to produce a TTY in nouveau, so I got advice to "go nvidia driver" . . . so I did that, but then, because I'm in rolling or devel for most of them, stuff started "breaking" with update/upgrades . . . because I don't think nvidia is "keeping pace" with the bleeding edge distros, or perhaps even leading edge . . . . My card is maybe 7400??? posted on the nvidia linux forum, guy got back to me, basically said, "Your card is very old news, so don't hold your breath" . . . so I didn't. Went back to nouveau in my ubuntu 20.04 installs, and some opensuse . . . but for tumbleweed I went with "default" by not accepting nouveau in the install . . . not sure which driver it is, but display is just as crispy . . . it's fine. But, this "grub not showing the menu" issue seems to be working it's way through all of the various distros . . . I did my chroot maneuver that worked last time, didn't seem to get it this time . . . but, now in my MacPro if I boot with no "alt/option" key held I get an OSX dmesg-like window that loads and then "welcome to grub" shows up, but, if I hold alt/option to an EFI disk boot . . . grub is all busted up . . . . -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 1863434] Re: 20.04 grub menu not visible
Just from a fast scan of the posts it seems like the common factor might be the gpu?? Grub is having problems with the gpu?? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1863434 Title: 20.04 grub menu not visible To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1863434/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
