Re: [Bug 254015] Re: Incorrect dependency

2008-08-23 Thread Dale Alspach
The problem has not gone away. I was able to obtain the needed
functionality by working around synaptic.
I have system that cannot be fully updated using
synaptic or the related update manager. initscripts is always listed by
update manager as not being upgradeable. Every update is  reported as "only
partial upgrade possible". Any attempt using synaptic to reinstall
iniscripts or the related utilities produces a failure with the error
message which you say is bogus. Whether or not it is bogus it stops
synaptic and upgrade manager from working properly.

My conjecture was that the compiled package contains an incorrect
statement of dependency. I don't know much about building packages but
I thought that specifications were manually written and incorporated. If
an incorrect dependency was written in the specification, the installers
still treat that dependency as real.

Dale Alspach

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Subject: [Bug 254015] Re: Incorrect dependency

I'm marking this as Invalid because upstart-compat-sysv package doesn't
install a manpage called last.1, so there is no conflicts. Please reopen
this bug if the problem will reappear.

** Changed in: upstart (Ubuntu)
   Status: New =3D> Invalid

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Status in =E2=80=9Cupstart=E2=80=9D source package in Ubuntu: Invalid

Bug description:
Binary package hint: upstart

Using synaptic to install upstart-compat-sysv reports an error overwriting =
man pages from sysvutils.
"trying to overwrite `/usr/share/man/man1/last.1.gz', which is also in pack=
age sysvutils"
Synaptic insists it needs to install sysvinit-utils which is not listed on =
package page as a dependency.
This is on Ubuntu 8.04

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Re: [Bug 254015] Re: Incorrect dependency

2008-08-11 Thread Dale Alspach
I have two desktops running hardy. One never experienced this.
I believe that the problem on the other one
started because I had to downgrade unison (unison had to match the version
on the debian server). At some point during my fiddling the automatic
update application began complaining about several packages. I was able to
eliminate most of those except initscripts. At this point I seemed to be
trapped in a set of circular dependencies. I let it go for awhile and just
applied the updates that I could. 

I am relatively new to the Ubuntu/debian world ( I used redhat for a few
years.) and am mostly an end user. 

Just before filing that bug report I decided to try one more time to clean
up this problem with initscripts. I removed both upstart-compat-sysv and
initscripts using synaptic. Some safety feature kicked-in and installed the
system v utilities. At this point I could not do anything without getting some
frightening messages from the system about destroying the ability to have
the things in init.d run. If I had a better knowledge of what was really
going on, I could have probably done a force install and got rid of the
problems. As it was I was able to return the system to a functional state
by using the deb installer to reinstall initscripts and
upstart-compat-sysv. I still have the complaints from update about
initscripts so apparently its database is corrupt or I have some issue with
incompatible packages.

I filed the bug-report because as I wrote synaptic claims a dependency
which is not listed in the dependencies on the Ubuntu package site (hardy).

Dale Alspach

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