Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-11-07 Thread Ian Soutar
Thanks
I did not realize this.

Ian

Lee Jones wrote:
 How do you mean Ian?

 All the information is on this bug report.

 What else would you like to know?



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-11-06 Thread clee
Hardware: Lenovo T400
Fix: lucid-proposed linux-image generic 2.6.32-26-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP

Success!  This fixed the bug

 I needed to re-install gnome-power-manager before I had a functioning
system

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Steve Conklin 477...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
 This bug is awaiting verification that the kernel in -proposed solves
 the problem. Please test the kernel and update this bug with the
 results. If the problem is solved, change the tag 'verification-needed'
 to 'verification-done'.

 If verification is not done by Thursday, November 11, this fix will be
 dropped from the source code, and this bug will be closed.

 See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how
 to enable and use -proposed. Thank you!

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 Bug description:
 This is another bugreport in a great series I filed. This time, against the 
 lucid kernel.

 ProblemType: KernelOops
 Annotation: This occured during a previous suspend and prevented it from 
 resuming properly.
 Architecture: amd64
 ArecordDevices:
   List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
    Subdevices: 2/2
    Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
    Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
 AudioDevicesInUse:
  USER        PID ACCESS COMMAND
  /dev/snd/controlC0:  muelli     1720 F pulseaudio
 Card0.Amixer.info:
  Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf822 irq 17'
    Mixer name   : 'Analog Devices AD1984'
    Components   : 'HDA:11d41984,17aa20d6,00100400'
    Controls      : 29
    Simple ctrls  : 18
 Date: Sat Nov  7 00:00:53 2009
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
 ExecutablePath: /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
 Failure: suspend/resume
 HibernationDevice: #RESUME=UUID=5273fb39-2d17-4d61-bc89-2c1b6efa1db3
 InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python2.6
 MachineType: LENOVO 766636G
 Package: linux-image-2.6.32-2-generic 2.6.32-2.2
 PccardctlIdent:
  Socket 0:
    no product info available
 PccardctlStatus:
  Socket 0:
    no card
 ProcCmdLine: root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot 
 source=UUID=9c3d5596-27c6-4fd5-bfcd-fa8eef6f1230 ro quiet splash  
 crashkernel=384M-2G:64M,2G-:128M
 ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/python /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
 ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user)
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-2.2-generic
 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-firmware 1.24
 SourcePackage: linux
 Tags: resume suspend
 Title: [LENOVO 766636G] suspend/resume failure
 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-2-generic x86_64
 UserGroups:

 WpaSupplicantLog:

 dmi.bios.date: 07/01/2008
 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.bios.version: 7NETB6WW (2.16 )
 dmi.board.name: 766636G
 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.board.version: Not Available
 dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information
 dmi.chassis.type: 10
 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.chassis.version: Not Available
 dmi.modalias: 
 dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr7NETB6WW(2.16):bd07/01/2008:svnLENOVO:pn766636G:pvrThinkPadX61s:rvnLENOVO:rn766636G:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
 dmi.product.name: 766636G
 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X61s
 dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-11-06 Thread Ian Soutar
I have experienced this bug too.   My work around is easy but not the 
best.   My SD card is used to store movies and music.   If I set the SD 
tiny switch on the edge of the card to LOCK ... then the Dell Mini 9 
will suspend and wake up fine.   If it is set to not be locked then the 
Mini 9 locks up instead of suspends.

Ian Soutar
Vancouver Island

Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
 2.6.32-26 also fixes the suspend with SD card inserted problems with my
 Dell Mini 9 (with /etc/pm/config.d/suspend_modules empty).



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-11-06 Thread Ian Soutar
Can someone please point out the original posting that fixes this
problem.

Thanks
Ian Soutar

Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
 2.6.32-26 also fixes the suspend with SD card inserted problems with my
 Dell Mini 9 (with /etc/pm/config.d/suspend_modules empty).



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-06-21 Thread Mike Fairbanks
Mine is FAT format. Dell d420. Lucid.

Mike Fairbanks
Technical Services
Cell: 559-259-9932
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On Jun 21, 2010, at 12:59 AM, Lee Jones lee.jo...@canonical.com wrote:

New information:
 This bug only seems to effect ext2 and ext4 formatted SD cards (vfat and ext3 
are seemingly unaffected).
 This bug only occurs when _both_ the SD card and HDDs are mounted.

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Bug description:
This is another bugreport in a great series I filed. This time, against the 
lucid kernel.

ProblemType: KernelOops
Annotation: This occured during a previous suspend and prevented it from 
resuming properly.
Architecture: amd64
ArecordDevices:
 List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
  Subdevices: 2/2
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
  Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
AudioDevicesInUse:
USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0:  muelli 1720 F pulseaudio
Card0.Amixer.info:
Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf822 irq 17'
  Mixer name: 'Analog Devices AD1984'
  Components: 'HDA:11d41984,17aa20d6,00100400'
  Controls  : 29
  Simple ctrls  : 18
Date: Sat Nov  7 00:00:53 2009
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
ExecutablePath: /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
Failure: suspend/resume
HibernationDevice: #RESUME=UUID=5273fb39-2d17-4d61-bc89-2c1b6efa1db3
InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python2.6
MachineType: LENOVO 766636G
Package: linux-image-2.6.32-2-generic 2.6.32-2.2
PccardctlIdent:
Socket 0:
  no product info available
PccardctlStatus:
Socket 0:
  no card
ProcCmdLine: root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot 
source=UUID=9c3d5596-27c6-4fd5-bfcd-fa8eef6f1230 ro quiet splash  
crashkernel=384M-2G:64M,2G-:128M
ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/python /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user)
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-2.2-generic
RelatedPackageVersions: linux-firmware 1.24
SourcePackage: linux
Tags: resume suspend
Title: [LENOVO 766636G] suspend/resume failure
Uname: Linux 2.6.32-2-generic x86_64
UserGroups:

WpaSupplicantLog:

dmi.bios.date: 07/01/2008
dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.bios.version: 7NETB6WW (2.16 )
dmi.board.name: 766636G
dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.board.version: Not Available
dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information
dmi.chassis.type: 10
dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.chassis.version: Not Available
dmi.modalias: 
dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr7NETB6WW(2.16):bd07/01/2008:svnLENOVO:pn766636G:pvrThinkPadX61s:rvnLENOVO:rn766636G:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
dmi.product.name: 766636G
dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X61s
dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO

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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-06-21 Thread Markus Schlager
On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, craptree wrote:

 I have a vfat card, and the problem happened to me until said fix in
#35

same here

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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-06-21 Thread Omer Akram
using your kernel. the suspend is faster than it was previously. so yes it
works :)

On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:18 PM, Lee Jones lee.jo...@canonical.com
wrote:

 I believe the issue to be rectified.

 Would you be kind enough to download and test the kernel below?

 http://people.canonical.com/~ljones/lp569882-lucid/

 Remember to undo the momentary workaround I posted in #35 first.

echo  | sudo tee -a /etc/pm/config.d/suspend_modules

 Please report your results back here.

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 Bug description:
 This is another bugreport in a great series I filed. This time, against the
 lucid kernel.

 ProblemType: KernelOops
 Annotation: This occured during a previous suspend and prevented it from
 resuming properly.
 Architecture: amd64
 ArecordDevices:
   List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
   Subdevices: 2/2
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
   Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
 AudioDevicesInUse:
  USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
  /dev/snd/controlC0:  muelli 1720 F pulseaudio
 Card0.Amixer.info:
  Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf822 irq 17'
   Mixer name   : 'Analog Devices AD1984'
   Components   : 'HDA:11d41984,17aa20d6,00100400'
   Controls  : 29
   Simple ctrls  : 18
 Date: Sat Nov  7 00:00:53 2009
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
 ExecutablePath: /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
 Failure: suspend/resume
 HibernationDevice: #RESUME=UUID=5273fb39-2d17-4d61-bc89-2c1b6efa1db3
 InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python2.6
 MachineType: LENOVO 766636G
 Package: linux-image-2.6.32-2-generic 2.6.32-2.2
 PccardctlIdent:
  Socket 0:
   no product info available
 PccardctlStatus:
  Socket 0:
   no card
 ProcCmdLine: root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot
 source=UUID=9c3d5596-27c6-4fd5-bfcd-fa8eef6f1230 ro quiet splash
  crashkernel=384M-2G:64M,2G-:128M
 ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/python /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
 ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user)
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-2.2-generic
 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-firmware 1.24
 SourcePackage: linux
 Tags: resume suspend
 Title: [LENOVO 766636G] suspend/resume failure
 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-2-generic x86_64
 UserGroups:

 WpaSupplicantLog:

 dmi.bios.date: 07/01/2008
 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.bios.version: 7NETB6WW (2.16 )
 dmi.board.name: 766636G
 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.board.version: Not Available
 dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information
 dmi.chassis.type: 10
 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.chassis.version: Not Available
 dmi.modalias:
 dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr7NETB6WW(2.16):bd07/01/2008:svnLENOVO:pn766636G:pvrThinkPadX61s:rvnLENOVO:rn766636G:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
 dmi.product.name: 766636G
 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X61s
 dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO

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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-06-09 Thread Ian Soutar
I used the unmount before suspend fix for the mini 9.   It worked 
immediately.

Ian Soutar

Antti Kaihola wrote:
 Comment #35 fixed the issue on my Dell Mini 9. It even worked
 immediately without rebooting first. Excellent!



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-06-09 Thread Ian Soutar
I made it part of the suspend script ... just before suspend I unmount 
the little SD card.

Ian

Peter Meyer wrote:
 Hi Ian:

 Are you saying you used the unmount manually or as part of the suspend
 script.

 To avoid the lockup, I've had to manually unmount the SD card on my Mini
 9 before suspending.

 Peter



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-06-08 Thread Markus Schlager
Comment #35 fixed the issue for me on my Dell mini 9.

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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-05-17 Thread Ian Soutar
Gavin

Can you point the way to the script ... I will see if the Dell Mini 9 
gets fixed.

Ian

gavin wrote:
 I can confirm that the script described above #29 works for me on a Dell
 Latitude D430, that has the same problems with the SD card on suspend
 with lucid.



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-05-03 Thread Ian Soutar
Thanks ... I will experiment with this if the problem reappears.

Ian

alien8 wrote:
 Hi,

 Not sure if installing (k|x|l)ubuntu is a better solution than using the
 echo N | sudo tee /sys/module/mmc_core/parameters/removable
 hack supposed for the root-fs to be located on a sd card.

 Further up there was a link posted pointing to
 http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/ubuntu-netbook-remix/14722-suspend-hibernate-mini-9-broken-3.html
 There you find an easy version of a script umounting the sd-card. IMHO it is 
 a bit too simple. I want the suspend process to fail/revert in case the sd 
 card cannot be umounted. I attached my script here. sudo cp it it to 
 /etc/pm/sleep.d and sudo chmod a+x /etc/pm/sleep.d/10sdcard

 Again, I would have expected something like that in Lucid.

 - a8

 ** Attachment added: umount script for sd cards
 http://launchpadlibrarian.net/47488959/10sdcard



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-05-01 Thread amtks07
yep...back for me too.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Peter Meyer petermeye...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi:  Have a Dell Mini 9.  The SD problem went away in the 9.10 release,
 and now seems to be back in 10.04.  Any thought about what might have
 changed?

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 Status in “linux” package in Ubuntu: Confirmed

 Bug description:
 This is another bugreport in a great series I filed. This time, against the
 lucid kernel.

 ProblemType: KernelOops
 Annotation: This occured during a previous suspend and prevented it from
 resuming properly.
 Architecture: amd64
 ArecordDevices:
   List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices 
  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: AD198x Analog [AD198x Analog]
   Subdevices: 2/2
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
   Subdevice #1: subdevice #1
 AudioDevicesInUse:
  USERPID ACCESS COMMAND
  /dev/snd/controlC0:  muelli 1720 F pulseaudio
 Card0.Amixer.info:
  Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf822 irq 17'
   Mixer name   : 'Analog Devices AD1984'
   Components   : 'HDA:11d41984,17aa20d6,00100400'
   Controls  : 29
   Simple ctrls  : 18
 Date: Sat Nov  7 00:00:53 2009
 DistroRelease: Ubuntu 9.10
 ExecutablePath: /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
 Failure: suspend/resume
 HibernationDevice: #RESUME=UUID=5273fb39-2d17-4d61-bc89-2c1b6efa1db3
 InterpreterPath: /usr/bin/python2.6
 MachineType: LENOVO 766636G
 Package: linux-image-2.6.32-2-generic 2.6.32-2.2
 PccardctlIdent:
  Socket 0:
   no product info available
 PccardctlStatus:
  Socket 0:
   no card
 ProcCmdLine: root=/dev/mapper/cryptroot
 source=UUID=9c3d5596-27c6-4fd5-bfcd-fa8eef6f1230 ro quiet splash
  crashkernel=384M-2G:64M,2G-:128M
 ProcCmdline: /usr/bin/python /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume
 ProcEnviron: PATH=(custom, no user)
 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.32-2.2-generic
 RelatedPackageVersions: linux-firmware 1.24
 SourcePackage: linux
 Tags: resume suspend
 Title: [LENOVO 766636G] suspend/resume failure
 Uname: Linux 2.6.32-2-generic x86_64
 UserGroups:

 WpaSupplicantLog:

 dmi.bios.date: 07/01/2008
 dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.bios.version: 7NETB6WW (2.16 )
 dmi.board.name: 766636G
 dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.board.version: Not Available
 dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information
 dmi.chassis.type: 10
 dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO
 dmi.chassis.version: Not Available
 dmi.modalias:
 dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr7NETB6WW(2.16):bd07/01/2008:svnLENOVO:pn766636G:pvrThinkPadX61s:rvnLENOVO:rn766636G:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
 dmi.product.name: 766636G
 dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X61s
 dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO

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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-05-01 Thread Ian Soutar
Simple solution

Don't use suspend anymore.   The new distro boots so quick you might as 
well always start with a boot.

Ian

Peter Meyer wrote:
 Hi:  Have a Dell Mini 9.  The SD problem went away in the 9.10 release,
 and now seems to be back in 10.04.  Any thought about what might have
 changed?



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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-05-01 Thread Ian Soutar
Possible solution.

I installed kubuntu 10.4 and then added the other desktops ... but I 
started with Kubuntu for the installation.

Then I went sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop 
lubuntu-desktop ...

Not sure if simply installing Kubuntu instead of Ubuntu was the solution 
or whether it was the installation of the other desktops after doing 
kubuntu for the actual install.

Open to experimentation ... see if anyone else can duplicate the 
solution.   My machine now suspends just fine and it is a mini 9.

Ian Soutar
Victoria BC Canada.

Ian Soutar wrote:
 Simple solution

 Don't use suspend anymore.   The new distro boots so quick you might as
 well always start with a boot.

 Ian

 Peter Meyer wrote:

 Hi:  Have a Dell Mini 9.  The SD problem went away in the 9.10 release,
 and now seems to be back in 10.04.  Any thought about what might have
 changed?


  


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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-04-20 Thread Stefan Bader
The assumption about the change making it possible to set the card as
un-removable is correct. Having tested the change on a netbook of my own and
seeing the change make a difference, there are maybe two things to check or find
out.

Was this a regression for you as well (did it work in Karmic)?
and
Is the hardware exactly the same (or what hardware is this happening anyway)?

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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-04-20 Thread Stefan Bader
Seems this is the exactly same controller as in my AOA110. Very odd. I will
upgrade to the latest code, just to see this still works on that system.

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Re: [Bug 477106] Re: [regression] lucid alpha-2 and earlier freeze upon suspend with sd card plugged in with some hardware

2010-04-16 Thread Stefan Bader

Right, being so close to release we did not want to change defaults to something
different than in Karmic. Even as the behaviour is looking better with the cards
being declared non-removable.
The problem is that this is a choice between two evils: either you declare them
removable, so the card is basically forcefully ejected on suspend and
re-detected and mounted on resume. Although the system tries to ensure there is
no unwritten data, there might be holes/races between that and the eject. And in
fact we had such a problem at some point in Karmic were the card got overwritten
(total data loss) on resume by things that did not make it to it on suspend.
We had a patch back then but that did not get accepted by upstream and then
replaced by something else that looked like doing the same but there either is a
subtle difference or something else got into upstream that lets suspend hang.

The other evil is to say the card is not removable. Now the card is not ejected
on suspend but upstream people think that this opens up a chance to destroy data
by swapping out the card and replacing it with a different one while the system
is suspended. I am not really sure how big this danger is, as when I remember
that correctly there is some card ID checked before actually assuming the same
media is still present. But the question is how unique these card IDs are. I
guess there is the problem of being good but expensive and less good but cheap
vendors of SD cards around. And from what I have read the cheap ones are not
really putting much effort into having uids or serial numbers right. But still
that might be a lot of the second case around...

So I think it is probably a good plan to make it a more concious decision to
twiddle with that setting.

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