Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Hi all. The regional contact cleanup has been finished. Thanks to all who made this possible. We still got a list of 30 active ppl which is quite good. Greets Marcus FYI, this has been sent out to the contacts on the wiki page which does not seem to have subscribed to the list. Greets Marcus The Swiss Ubuntu LoCo team would like to do some cleanup on the regional contact list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/RegionalContacts Therefore I need to know if you are still willed to act as contact person. I have added a Status 2011 column to the table on the wiki page. If you are still active in contributing to the Ubuntu community, please fill in Active. If you are on hold, but perhaps want to contribute again, next year, fill in Inactive. Please do this until 20111020. If your status is still unknown afterwards, you will be removed from the list. This process will be repeated in autumn next year, as then the status will be reset to unknown again. Please also make sure, that you also have subscribed to the ubuntu-ch Mailinglist: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch as the next announcement will be only sent out to the list, not via PM. Greets Marcus On the behalf of the Ubuntu LoCo team -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Hi all. FYI, this has been sent out to the contacts on the wiki page which does not seem to have subscribed to the list. Greets Marcus The Swiss Ubuntu LoCo team would like to do some cleanup on the regional contact list: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/RegionalContacts Therefore I need to know if you are still willed to act as contact person. I have added a Status 2011 column to the table on the wiki page. If you are still active in contributing to the Ubuntu community, please fill in Active. If you are on hold, but perhaps want to contribute again, next year, fill in Inactive. Please do this until 20111020. If your status is still unknown afterwards, you will be removed from the list. This process will be repeated in autumn next year, as then the status will be reset to unknown again. Please also make sure, that you also have subscribed to the ubuntu-ch Mailinglist: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch as the next announcement will be only sent out to the list, not via PM. Greets Marcus On the behalf of the Ubuntu LoCo team -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Hi all, Just an idea, we can move people with unknown status to another page. Best regards. --- Hassan Le mercredi 28 septembre 2011 à 07:22 +0200, Daniel Stoni a écrit : Hello I agree, this cleanup is important. I frequently do support - and people told, they had tried to contact other people on the list before who were not available or did not reply. If we can trust the list, we can reliably forward support inquiries to the person most suitable / closest to the user seeking for help. dsto *** -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Hi Kaelin. i think this isn't a good action - loosing contacts to people who can't read this List frquently is quickly done - regaining those people is hard work. I would rethink this cleanup. What is a contact worth, if he/she does not react or is unavailable? Better have 10 ppl in the list who can really act as contact person, then 100 where 90 are inactive. Besides that, we lose nothing. This is a wiki and all revisions are stored. So if we need to look back, we can just open an older revision. Hope that makes it clearer. Greets Marcus -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Heya there, my opinion on the whole subject: The wikipage is merely a list of people who want to give support for Ubuntu - these are *not* necessarely the same people who want to do any kind of community work. If I think I'm able to give support for Ubuntu, why should I have to join a mailinglist which is about topics which most likely neither influence me, nor are interesting for me? Even more so for people which aren't able to speak English very well. So, in my opinion: Sending a people a (personal!) email to see if they're still active, and if needed delete them (maybe after a second reminder, some people tend to overlook some mails) is okay. *Forcing* people to join a Mailinglist in order to continue to be able to share the spirit of Ubuntu by giving support is clearly not. Not everyone is comfortable with mailinglists. Not everyone is comfortable with English. Not everyone is interested in the topics either. This significantly puts the barrier for some people willing to give support up, which is not a good thing at all. Informing there there is a such thing like a mailing list is enough. Why force them to join? i think this isn't a good action - loosing contacts to people who can't read this List frquently is quickly done - regaining those people is hard work. Besides that, we lose nothing. This is a wiki and all revisions are stored. So if we need to look back, we can just open an older revision. I think Tscheesy was mainly talking about the psychological loss here, not about the technical side. The important point is these are people *locally* to someone who needs support. If I need support, I don't care about the 80 people of the 90 who aren't in my area. A cleanup might be needed because there are indeed people who maybe quit using ubuntu or have another adress and just forgot about removing themselves from the list. But if we need to do a cleanup, we need to do it as soft as possible (i.e. long deadlines, more than one reminder. To err is human, and I regularely flag some mails as important and look at them some weeks later). We should value the people giving something back to the community, not restrict them. Just my $0.02, Florian (who is, by the way, perfectly fine with being on this mailing list :P) -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
Re: [Ubuntu-ch] regional contact cleanup
Hi Marcus I'm happy to stay on that list. Just my location would need to be changed from Bern to Zürich. I'm currently on the road and therefor unable to do it right now. Thanks for all the work you put in this! Pascal (almost in Istanbul) ___ In der Kürze liegt die Würze! Diese Nachricht wurde von meinem Galaxy Tab gesendet. Marcus Moeller marcus.moel...@gmx.ch schrieb: Hi all. I would like to do some cleanup on the regional contacts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SwissTeam/RegionalContacts Therefore I am going to eMail everyone listed on the page in order to check if he/she is still willed to act as contact person. If I do not get a reply in a defined amount of time (e.g. 30 days) the person will be removed from that page. Greets Marcus -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch -- Ubuntu-ch mailing list Ubuntu-ch@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-ch
